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Old 09-14-2009, 10:53 PM   #1
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ran the 1/8th in my heads/cam/nitrous car. It has 4.10s spraying 125 thru a 6spd. Couldn't get the MT drag radials to hook up but still managed a 7.9 at 96 mph on a crap 2.0 60'. What might this translate to in the 1/4 if I get some traction out of the hole? what are some good launching tricks, mods, etc?..or should I just start lightening up the front end? The track may have been poorly prepped as well.
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What size tires are you using? That's a nice trap speed for that time, must have been spinnin your ass off.
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didn't think to check as I bought them off of a friend...They're 16 in MTs. Its not a tall or wide tire thats about all I can tell you till I check the size of them in my friend's basement where I store them. The window switch comes on @ 3200. I launched about 3500 on 14 psi and spun feathering it thru 1st and 2nd and powershifting 3rd.
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For that MPH doing what you say you're doing you would probably pick up a lot on the big end. If you can hook it early you should be in the 10s.
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7.9@96 sounds more like 11's than 10's
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I would guess mid to low 11's unless you change something to hook better. I run 7.8's and 7.9's but only at 89 mph so you'd definately pull harder on the top end. That translated to a 12.1 at 113 for me....
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I would get some taller/wider tires and drag shocks on the front, that'll help a ton on the launch. I trap almost the same in the 1/8 but at a 7.3 so if you can spray out of the hole and hook I could see bottom 11's to high 10's
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I would guess mid to low 11's unless you change something to hook better. I run 7.8's and 7.9's but only at 89 mph so you'd definately pull harder on the top end. That translated to a 12.1 at 113 for me....
We are about identical times/MPH.

Are you just full bolt-ons? What do you have for suspension?
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7.9@96 sounds more like 11's than 10's
Yeah it does, but if he can hook harder and spray earlier without peddling then MPH would go up and ET would go down. He should easily have the power to run 10s.
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I would get some taller/wider tires and drag shocks on the front, that'll help a ton
that along with some weight reduction and skinnies up front should make it plant better

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Yeah it does, but if he can hook harder and spray earlier without peddling then MPH would go up and ET would go down. He should easily have the power to run 10s.
thats good because I was hoping for mid 11s atleast. Are you going to civil wars?...I thought about it, but I gotta find out how much entry fee is. This saturday Im going to Maxton (old airport) for some top speed runs. Think I should spray thru fourth or will it level out in 5th off the spray and end up with the same mph?
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that along with some weight reduction and skinnies up front should make it plant better



thats good because I was hoping for mid 11s atleast. Are you going to civil wars?...I thought about it, but I gotta find out how much entry fee is. This saturday Im going to Maxton (old airport) for some top speed runs. Think I should spray thru fourth or will it level out in 5th off the spray and end up with the same mph?
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It wont level out in 5th, you can pull 5th out on motor. You'll just get to 5th a lot faster.
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I ran 7.7 @ 93 mph in the 1/8th, then when i got my 1/4 mile slip i ran an 11.8 @ 119

You need traction before the 1/8th to makes use of your car. You might need a slick to transfer that power
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You need traction before the 1/8th to makes use of your car. You might need a slick to transfer that power
haven't even thought about slicks...thats a good idea though because drag radials give just enough and slicks might give me just enough bite to launch at a higher rpm and get out of the hole. I'll try that along with taking some weight out(still has spare tire and jack) and maybe delay the nitrous a couple tenths
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I miss the 98 Z28. Put some Slicks on it.
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you gave up a heck of a car. I couldn't be happier with it especially on nitrous
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I ran 7.7 @ 93 mph in the 1/8th, then when i got my 1/4 mile slip i ran an 11.8 @ 119

You need traction before the 1/8th to makes use of your car. You might need a slick to transfer that power
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I ran a 7.4 @ 93 in the 1/8 and that was a mid 11 pass at 119 in the 1/4. No point in speculating what it could be, go run it and find out.
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I ran a 11.9 in the 1/4 with a 7.6 In the 1/8th with a 1.7 60'

I'd say you are low 12s/high 11's at best.
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I ran a 11.9 in the 1/4 with a 7.6 In the 1/8th with a 1.7 60'

I'd say you are low 12s/high 11's at best.
No... gotta look at the trap speed, he would be trapping close to 120 if not higher in the 1/4
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No... gotta look at the trap speed, he would be trapping close to 120 if not higher in the 1/4
no. trap speed means hardly anything. trap speeds can easily be manipulated by changing gears/different size tires/spinning off the line/bogging off the line.

In this case, he is spinning off the line. When you spin off the line, you gain MPH. That's time slip reading 101.

Now if you want to do a little bench racing... I trapped 93 mph in the time slip I posted. That's without spinning/bogging. So he would be doing 3 mph faster than me @ the 1/8th mile, but would be behind 3/10th's of a second. You figured if he wasn't spinning he'd be trapping like 94 maybe 95 ish (i'm assuming he spun a good bit, because of the 60' time). So he would be 1-2 mph faster than me but would have to make up 3/10th's of a second on the top end. That's a lot of room to close with not a lot of mph to do it with.

and again to prove my point that trap speed means nothing. I've seen cars that trap 122 mph and only run a mid 12 second pass. That's without spinning/bogging.
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What might this translate to in the 1/4 if I get some traction out of the hole?
That's what I was reffering to. And in his case if he hooked up he's only going to gain mph because he was spinning through 1'st and 2'nd. And if you've seen someone run a mid 12 over 120 without spinning or bogging that's just a terrible driver.
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