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Most rwhp ever seen using Stock feed line and evap for return?

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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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One more thing to consider when going from a -6 (3/8) to a -8 (1/2) line is that pressure will slightly increase in the -8 line per Bernoulli’s equation. Check out this link:

http://home.earthlink.net/~mmc1919/venturi.html
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Interesting read, yes, but somewhat misleading. IMO

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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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"Bernoulli's Principle states that as the speed of a moving fluid increases, the pressure within the fluid decreases."

Well, that was interesting and that pipe demo was cool...but one thing Im not getting is how exactly pressure INCREASES as a smaller pipe/hose goes into a LARGER pipe/hose...I would think the pressure would actually drop due to the increased diameter of the pipe/hose.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 04:27 AM
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PSI is what you need to think about if you are at 60 psi in a 1/2" line and then you are at 60 psi in a 1" line you think they are the same? Per Square Inch Which one has more surface area? The larger line of course. 60 presure is the same, but if you actually measure it is more as a whole if you can understand it. 1PSI x 100 Square inches is 100 lbs and 1PSI x 200 square inches is 200 lbs maybe that helps you out. went from stock lines at 58psi to a 8AN line with billet rails at 58psi I had to drop the presure to @50psi to get it to lean out enough to drive it. Hope this helpes explain it for thost who were not understanding the way it works.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 6techniques
"Bernoulli's Principle states that as the speed of a moving fluid increases, the pressure within the fluid decreases."

Well, that was interesting and that pipe demo was cool...but one thing Im not getting is how exactly pressure INCREASES as a smaller pipe/hose goes into a LARGER pipe/hose...I would think the pressure would actually drop due to the increased diameter of the pipe/hose.
Well, velocity drops, so pressure does the opposite and rises. However, pressure does not rise as much as velocity drops, they are not inversely proportionate. The mass flow rate is still the same in both sections of the pipe since it is an incompressible fluid flow analysis. If you want to look at the numerical proof, there are a couple links on that page that explain it. One of the links actually describes it without any numbers.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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d'oh...I see now, for some reason I was thinking that the correlation between psi and area was negative. Thanks fellas.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 06:47 PM
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Were you guys using a stock style fuel filter on those stock feed lines or did you splice in a bigger aftermarket performance type in the hard lines?
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 08:58 PM
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Dang, old thread. I have the stock feed, stock style filter etc. and 800RWHP. However, my injector duty cycle is higher than it should be even though enough fuel is getting through. Going to an -8AN feed soon.
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Is using that -8 feed line gonna make much of a difference since the '99 and up plastic bucket only has a 3/8 (-6) outlet?
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Old Oct 20, 2009 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by bluebird71
Is using that -8 feed line gonna make much of a difference since the '99 and up plastic bucket only has a 3/8 (-6) outlet?
Pump outlet lines will have to be changed too.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 11:20 AM
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I can't figure out how to do that with the plastic setup, just with the 98 metal bucket.
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Old Oct 21, 2009 | 09:17 PM
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Seeing as how most of you guys are a boosted application, what about N20 set ups? I'm upgrading to a 200 shot and don't want to go to a stand alone. I'd rather upgrade the entire system, but wouldn't mind saving a little dough in the process. I'm against the stand alone b/c I don't want to move the battery. I don't see why going the factory feed and evap as a return with new rails couldn't support 650ish on a nitrous hit.
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Old Oct 25, 2009 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
We've made 995rwhp with stock feed/evap return through a turbo400 and twin external walbros, and 1,150rwhp with stock feed/evap return through a 6-speed with an intank walbro and external bosch "Y'd" together.
Im looking to make about the same hp using twin intanks. I sent you a pm
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 04:52 PM
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So twin in tanks and stock feed/evap lines with 60lb. injectors should handle a max of 600 rwhp fine? Doing a ebay turbo kit and this is the fuel system i would like to run until the beginning of summer.

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Old Nov 5, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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Twins with the stock lines will support about 750rwhp. Leave your EVAP intact it is a very good venting system. If you exceed 750rwhp you will want bigger lines and a front mounted reg. setup. Give me a call I can help setup the proper fuel system for your needs.

Oh and questioned above the factory fittings out the top of the stock sender have been flow tested to over 1200rwhp it is the added line size of the -8 that helps get the volume to the rails.
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Old Nov 6, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Thanks Nate. I will give you a call this summer when i tackle the fuel and xmsn.
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