Like the original poster has said, it was crap weather and the car hadn't even been broken in yet.
Like I posted on page 1; it was 78 degrees on his 13.12 pass. I do not think that qualifies as crap weather. Yes it was humid; it's always humid in Houston.
The fact remains that this car is a mid to low 13 second car for Joe average buyer, which is not that impressive.
Some of you guys are being a bit dramatic. Look at the whole picture here. Hell, we dont even know the whole picture. We werent there and werent driving. Lots of factors could of(and did play) a role in you guys wetting your panties. A tenth or two getting chopped off here and there due to different variables is what youre bitching about. The people bitching is what makes the internet suck. You have an impressive STOCK and HEAVY car with IRS in extreme Texas HEAT and HUMIDITY plus all kinds of other shit we are NOT SURE ABOUT. Now you want to go trash the car before it gets off the ground and really gets a chance to get abused. You people must be ford and toyota fanboys. After all, you are taking the thing weve been waiting for and trying to choke the life out of it before it gets a chance to take its first breath. Ill chose to hold my final opinion till more results are in. I am impressed with this car so far though. I just hope the BS being spewed here doesnt spread to the rest of the mindless lemmings trying to decipher the intrawebs.
The fact remains that this car is a mid to low 13 second car for Joe average buyer, which is not that impressive.
So you really think that Motor Trend and Car and Driver for ONCE in their careers maxed out a car's 1/4 mile times? This one guy's results in Texas notwithstanding, let's see what other magazine's come up with over the next couple of month's before we write off a car that no one has even broken in yet.
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So you really think that Motor Trend and Car and Driver for ONCE in their careers maxed out a car's 1/4 mile times? This one guy's results in Texas notwithstanding, let's see what other magazine's come up with over the next couple of month's before we write off a car that no one has even broken in yet.
He never said it was maxed out. I took the "Joe average buyer" part as meaning these will be average times. And in order to get average times you have some faster and some slower.
I'm sure there will be high 12's stock out of these cars in good air and with great M6 drivers. And I'm also sure bolt ons with weight reduction will produce some great ET's.
But that won't change the fact that when I go to the track I probably won't see better then aveage stock LS1 times which is around mid 13's.
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He never said it was maxed out. I took the "Joe average buyer" part as meaning these will be average times. And in order to get average times you have some faster and some slower.
I'm sure there will be high 12's stock out of these cars in good air and with great M6 drivers. And I'm also sure bolt ons with weight reduction will produce some great ET's.
But that won't change the fact that when I go to the track I probably won't see better then aveage stock LS1 times which is around mid 13's.
Basically he is saying that very few people will get into the 12's. I have to disagree considering the OP got a 13.1 in Texas humidity. I think in cooler weather the average joe will most likely break high 12's and a driver mod should push it into mid 12's if you get the thing out of 100% humidity areas.
No one has been proven right or wrong considering the car mags that really track test automobiles haven't tested it yet (Hot Rod didn't go to a track they just plugged up a pc). We're all basing that the car is slow on magazines that RARELY got into mid 13's with the 345 HP optioned out LS1 SS's. The Z28 models usually tested in the 14's.......14's guys, I'm telling you these magazine's that get first dibs only get them to put miles on them for the real tester's.
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Are you serious? The car ran 13.56 bone stock. Your saying that in cooler weather the car is gonna pick up 6 tenths of a second? That's what it would take to put a bone stock 2010 into the 12's. It went 13.08 after they did mods between rounds; it was not bone stock anymore.
Deep 12's? LOL. Only if they do mods that will void the warranty. Most people will not go there...and they will have a mid to low 13 second car.
The magazine's pulled 13 flat, trapped 111. I don't know what went wrong on his stock run, but it should have been a lot faster than that. That's actually the slowest time posted for the new Camaro. Starting to wonder if it was a V8 at all.
Basically he is saying that very few people will get into the 12's. I have to disagree considering the OP got a 13.1 in Texas humidity. I think in cooler weather the average joe will most likely break high 12's and a driver mod should push it into mid 12's if you get the thing out of 100% humidity areas.
I disagree. Great drivers will get 12's but average joes will be 13's all day. The biggest problem these cars have is thier difficulty to launch. IRS + 20" street tires = sucky 60's. Good weather while making the traps better will also make hooking even harder.
I'm not saying some people won't be in the 12's. But most will be in the 13's. I doubt mid 12's will happen until drag radials are put on.
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When the car ran the faster time the weather was significantly cooler, the DA was a lot different. I think the DA in Houston was over 2500 that day..That should give you a clue. And yes that can slow a n/a car .3-.4 easy.
The car's T/M is really killing the car out of the hole, it has the power to go the et, if some of the haters had half a brain they'd realize its a high 12 car from factory.
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Like I posted on page 1; it was 78 degrees on his 13.12 pass. I do not think that qualifies as crap weather. Yes it was humid; it's always humid in Houston.
The fact remains that this car is a mid to low 13 second car for Joe average buyer, which is not that impressive.
Texas has a 9-10 month summer. Its always hot/humid, cars are gonna run in this hot wheather 80% of the time.
It ran that 13.1 e.t with a fan cooling it OFF in between runs WITH a CAI and TUNE and Steven driving....
So as the car sat that night its BEST time was only a 13.1 with cool downs in-between runs...Now for those 2-3 months of cold that we do get, it should see a few tenths due to the colder weather. But by then I am positive it will have alot more done to it then a CAI and a dyno tune...
Hopefully someone else will show up with a another 2010 Camaro tonight. I'll be there with video ready. We also will do some laps in our 97' tonight too.
I really don't understand why everyone is bitching about this car being slow and the times it is running. I mean honestly, it has 100 miles on it, it was raced in heat and humid weather and with 20" wheels. Come on give it a break
Well my brother's friend's sister's uncle's niece's nephew's mother's father's sister had a stock pinto with an aftermarket oil pan that went 8.90's in the 1320' so this car ain't shit!!!!
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I've just been reading the mag's for about 13 years now and they have consistently been about .3 -.4 off of EVERY car I've seen run at Clay City. There's also none at this point that have been broken in, so there not quite up to snuff.
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Lots of haters for this car. Most coming from 4th gens. Stop hating on this car people, GM gave us a pretty bad ass camaro with lots of potential! Cooler weather, light weight wheels and sticky tires will get this well into the 12's! Gees, you would think this is a Ford site the way the 5th gens are being bashed.
ive heard of faster stock cars already. i havent seen them but i have read about them, my m6 02 ss was running 13.5 at 108 mph stock. this car should be a lot faster.
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