Ya it works.Hundreds of guys have been using it for years.Do a search on the GN forums.I've used it myself.I've run as much as 23#s of boost with this mix.Motor pings on 94 octane and you add the mix and it stops pinging.That's proof enough for me.Don't need a dyno.
Im 64 yrs old and back 60s we used to put moth balls in a qt. can of gas ,let them disolve add to a full tank of gas ,it was like rocket fuel . Not a joke i did .
I'm curious on the gas/e85 mix. Can anyone show proof that mixing the grades like that really helps with octane boosting? Where I'm at, premium is ~2.80 and the e85 is like 1.35
Location: In the Black Sticky Parts of Your Soul... Oh and Jacksonville Fl
Posts: 355
BUMP for some more LOVE on this subject! I am in Florida (JAX) and there are no e85 pumps for civilian use, and the Sunoco's 110 is lead base as well as $$$. A cheap alt is greatly appreciated
You must hang out with the go kart racers, that's their trick, they mix it in the oil and it vaporizes up past the rings, and since they don't tech your oil, they don't find it.
AFR for E-85 is 9.8:1 where as gas is 14.7:1.It takes more E-85 to reach the same as gas.
Ethanol has less energy than gasoline. Gasoline has 117600 BTU per gallon, ethanol 67000 BTU per gallon.
Anyone who tells you they actually picked up MPG by using E-85 is full of Shit!. When it was first advertised in our area I remember comercials with people actually claiming the increase in MPG or major gains in power. My 07' Avalanche was OK on gas and an absolute hog on E85.
__________________ It ain't stock ...94 Z-28 A4 383 12.4:1 CR on 93 octane... Lunati Crank... Manley H-beams...Mahle pro series flat tops... AI 200cc Head/Cam/Intake ...Strange S60 w/4.10's
So, back to the OP, is it a a no bs formula that can be used on a non-sensor equipped engine(gen-1) sbc? Just wondering if anyone on here has tried this formula, the ATF part kinda scares me. I'm really curious about this topic as well!
If you are going to do e85, you will need bigger injectors and a good tune. But expect to get 1/2 of your mileage. The flip side is your getting 105 octane for $2 instead of $6. So even if you used 2x as much, your still saving money. But its also hard to find.
You could also do like the flex fuel cars, and add a ethenol sensor so you could just mix whatever you wanted and it would adjust the tune accordingly.
How much boost are you planning on running? Your going to do this on top of meth?
I run E85 in my Grand National and as said above you will use more fuel while running it. I had to go up about 30% on fuel flow BUT was able to go from 15# boost to 24# with no knock. Keep in mind my GN is an 85 so no intercooler there...just lots of hot air forced into the motor. Not only does the E85 have a better octane rating but will decrease the temperature of the engine at the same time. There's not many downsides other than decreased fuel mileage and slights harder starting in cold temperatures. You also wouldnt want to store the car with a tank full of E85 because it will attract alot of moisture into the gas tank.
__________________ 85 Buick Grand National--so far TA48 turbo,50# injectors,TurboTweak chip,Kenne Bell CAI,Monster Motorsports 2004R tranny,SMC alky kit
so if I don't have a F.I aplication this formula for home made race gas isn't going 2 work well in my car? I figured it should do something or why would they sell it in the stores for every1 to buy? I have read 100's of threads on this topic 2day & still not sure on this. I am thinking of makin formula #2 since its higher octaine
__________________ 2001 z28: LID, SMOOTH BELLOW, 85MM BBK, SLP FORCED AIR INTAKE, K&N AIR FILTER, SLP EXHAUST, PACESETTER Y-PIPE, HEADERS, REAR CONTROL ARMS & RELOCATOR BRACKETS, NOS, SPEC STAGE 3+ CLUTCH, CHROME MOLLY FLYWHEEL, MSD WIRES, Z06 BRAKES, Z06 WHEELS 18 x 10.5" - 56mm REAR / Front 17 x 9.5" - 54mm, 285/40/17 FRONT AND 315/30/18 Rear 18 x 10.5" - 56mm / Front 17 x 9.5" - 54mm, Strano Front Lowering Springs
Last edited by ryans01z28; 09-12-2009 at 09:40 AM..
