Thanks Joe, I had read that link as it was posted by mrr23. I was wondering if DTE had seen the same sorts of gain, and if it they had seen the same results.
Great link mrr23 & Joe, Good info, Although I did grin and giggle at the Mikronite processed machete!!
Thanks.
I have been using MWe's Supra-Fin process on soft Pro gear and hard street gear sets and have been very impressed with the results. How does this process compare?
Are the benifits of the Mikronite process great enough to offset the higher cost when compared to the Supra-Fin process?
It's always nice to have another choice
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I found the hand out that I got from Crane Cams concerning the mikronite proces. Try looking at mikronite.com for more info on the process..
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Whats does the process cost? Lets take a set of differential gears as an example.
For typical 9" and 12 bolt gear sets:
Cryo-isotropic process (Cryo-REM) $175 to $250 and up. ...but if you do some shopping you can usually find some bargains for REM process.
Mikronite $200 and up.
Supra-Fin $125
__________________ I'm a retired racer. I miss racing. I miss going fast. I miss competing.
Never thought I would miss the wrenching and the mashed fingers, skinned knuckles, burns, bruises, and upside down welding and such...Well, the hot dingle berry finding it’s way into my ear and the sizzling ear wax sucked... That I don’t miss.
Cryo-isotropic process (Cryo-REM) $175 to $250 and up. ...but if you do some shopping you can usually find some bargains for REM process.
Mikronite $200 and up.
Supra-Fin $125
I'm about to build a 9" for road racing (I plan to use Richmond's lightened gears). Should I Cryo., Mikronite, and/or do the Supra-Fin? I know Cryo. is specificly for hardening the gear (don't know if that is needed with hard gear sets like Richmond and others). What's the advantage/difference between the Mikronite and Supra-Fin?
__________________ Chris
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its "stock"...ignore the lope.....they all sound like that...
2004 Silverado LS, 5.3Liter, A4 (soon to be T56), 2WD
I'm about to build a 9" for road racing (I plan to use Richmond's lightened gears). Should I Cryo., Mikronite, and/or do the Supra-Fin? I know Cryo. is specificly for hardening the gear (don't know if that is needed with hard gear sets like Richmond and others). What's the advantage/difference between the Mikronite and Supra-Fin?
I personaly don't think think that the Cryo is a necessity with the Richmond's if you supper-polish.
Any of the three processes would do well for you.
As for the difference between the Mikronite and Supra-Fin, Well, They both yield very similar results each from it's respective proprietary process. I think that the biggest difference is going to be in the cost.
I have not had much experience with the Mikronite but I have used Cryo-Isotropic (Cryo-REM) and Isotropic (REM). I have also used the Supra-Fin with excellent results.
__________________ I'm a retired racer. I miss racing. I miss going fast. I miss competing.
Never thought I would miss the wrenching and the mashed fingers, skinned knuckles, burns, bruises, and upside down welding and such...Well, the hot dingle berry finding it’s way into my ear and the sizzling ear wax sucked... That I don’t miss.
Certainly the most apparent results are increased longevity, lower case/lub temps and very little or no break-in at all required. On lightweight gear sets shattering was a big problem which was greatly reduced with the supper-polished gear sets. This is enough to justify the cost of the process imo.
As far as on track results, it is very hard to attribute exact gains to the gears...unfortunately the type of data logging needed to verify such gains was not always availble: Just for what it worth, On a Stock Eliminator car, that we were able to use as a test mule, when we compared data logs from with/without we saw a 17 hp gain in calculated horse Power with a REM processed tranny and final gear set.
__________________ I'm a retired racer. I miss racing. I miss going fast. I miss competing.
Never thought I would miss the wrenching and the mashed fingers, skinned knuckles, burns, bruises, and upside down welding and such...Well, the hot dingle berry finding it’s way into my ear and the sizzling ear wax sucked... That I don’t miss.
I personaly don't think think that the Cryo is a necessity with the Richmond's if you supper-polish.
Any of the three processes would do well for you.
As for the difference between the Mikronite and Supra-Fin, Well, They both yield very similar results each from it's respective proprietary process. I think that the biggest difference is going to be in the cost.
I have not had much experience with the Mikronite but I have used Cryo-Isotropic (Cryo-REM) and Isotropic (REM). I have also used the Supra-Fin with excellent results.
So who would I call to get a set of lightened 9" gears mirco-polished (since you said Cryo is probubly pointless on such hard gears anyways)? Who would you say I go through?
__________________ Chris
2001 Camaro Z28, 388CI all bore, MM6
its "stock"...ignore the lope.....they all sound like that...
2004 Silverado LS, 5.3Liter, A4 (soon to be T56), 2WD
