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Old 12-12-2006, 05:00 PM   #1
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Default Ok What's The Best HID's Out There

The title explains everything.....so where do you get em' and how much. O and is 8500k the best looking ones or is there a better looking ones?
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"better" is subjective.
4100K has the highest lumens output. As the color temp increases, the lumens output decreases. Therefore 4100K has a higher lumens output (thereby brighter) than 8500K. As the color temp increases the light gets blue-er then purple-er,
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I'm running 8000K McCulloch setup

Picking up 8000K Fogs from LS1_SS soon.
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I'm running 8000K McCulloch setup

Picking up 8000K Fogs from LS1_SS soon.
-this makes two of us, McCulloch 8k here!!!
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if you want the HID lights for performance go with something that is OEM like the phillips ballasts and bulbs, with a projector retrofit. This is the proper way to get the best possible light output out of any color HID. As for the best light output the 3000k-5000k is the range where maximum lumens is found. 5000+to 12000k are for looks basically, although you are still getting more light output than a halogen bulb. If you just want to plug and play I'd suggest going with a 6000k and pick it up from LS1_SS (ledgauges.com) if you want the OEM phillips setup go to hidexpert.com or hidplanet.com (non promoting just stating where to find this setup sponsor nazis).

Just remember that plug and play kits have a ton of hot spots and light "flaring" everywhere that can blind oncoming traffic. Think about doing a projector retrofit!
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example of plug and play glare in a halogen reflector housing (aka stock halogen housing)
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OEM is best in terms of quality but it's difficult when talking about a kit. I went with an expensive Kaixen 6500k kit that I am happy with so far. I haven't had any troubles with it but then again I want to wait and see how long these last and if I will have any problems. Only problem is now is that I want to go with some H3's of the same color HID but I am going to have to spend $300 for the kit to make it match the headlights.

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What is out there for a LTx car headlights
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there are places out there like hidexpert that sell oem parts with re-based bulbs and you'd be amazed at how they are the same price or cheaper than plug and play kits. hot94 check out nates(ls1_SS) site ledgauges.com im pretty sure he has something. or you could go with hella 90mm projectors that are completely sealed. depends on what you want and how much you want to spend.
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i have a new set for sale, 8000k, 155 shipped fits camaros
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i have Pilots top and bottom 10k
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I have 8500k's they are great!

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The best is 5k...I have 10k, but I really want to get a brighter brillant light.
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thanks guys for the useful information
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kinda offtopic but i found a place that does hid conversion kits what size is the lt1 firebird headlight?
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4x6 and if they arent going with projectors, dont waste the time or money.

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I've read that Acura TSX projector housings are one of the best ways to go, and was planning on using them in my HID conversion.
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Here is some research I've been doing on projectors:
(I prefer projectors for HID instead of reflectors due to the glare that can arise from halogen reflector housings.)

These are some 90mm Hella projectors:
http://www.rallylights.com/hella/90mm_modules.asp

Skytower used them on his late 4th gen Firebird:
http://firehawk.jonbroomfield.com/hidinfo/

TXHorns281 used them on his late 4th gen Firebird as well:
http://www.afbforums.com/index.php?&...CODE=12&CID=47

Here is a LT1 Camaro with them:
http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/u/mulgeary/Hella90/

Here is a LS1 Camaro with them:
Hid Retrofit.
http://community.webshots.com/album/116863233uyEamc

Here is some research I did on the hella projectors
(some links with info on HID conversion)
http://www.network54.com/Forum/21646...lso+Hella+90mm
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hella-90mm/

Here is a different projector setup someone made for their late 4th gen Firebird:
http://www.ls2.com/forums/showthread...5&pagenumber=1
(Its an old thread and the pics on the first few pages dont work, but they appear to be re-hosted at the end)
Some other pics of it are in this thread:
Need advice on TA fixed headlight conversion

Here is another post I made on headlight upgrades:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showpo...76&postcount=5

Here is a post JasonWW made on headlight upgrades:
LS1 Firebird Headlight Upgrades - General Guide

Here are some other sources for info on HID and projectors:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/index.php
http://faqlight.carpassion.info/

Not a f-body, but talks about HIDs and TSX projectors:
http://www.geocities.com/jvxdriver/index.htm
http://www.geocities.com/jvxdriver/crx_mod.htm
(also contains some vids)

Here are some of the many threads about non-popups for the late 4th-gen Firebird:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showpo...18&postcount=2
headlight conversions


BTW, I found most of this information by searching here on LS1Tech.

If you are looking for HID stuff, LS1_SS (www.ledgauges.com) has been a good person to deal with.
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TSX, S2000, E55, and Bosch E46 are pretty much the best for retrofitting. The E46 is the cheapest and smallest which is great for us LT1 guys. The problem is making a housing and sealing them up. THat's what is nice about the Hella projecters but at $170 a piece hella can eat my a$$. I wish I would have saved a little more and got the E46 bi-xenon (hi/low) but I'll be content with my single beam and hid fogs. If that isn't enough light output onto the road then I don't know what is lol.
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THat's what is nice about the Hella projecters but at $170 a piece hella can eat my a$$.
The Hella 90mm H9 projectors are $60 each for a total of $120 for the pair. Then you can get a H9 HID package for $250. The final total would be $370.

Where did you see Hella projectors for $170 each? Are they the same ones? Hella does make a HID projector combo though, but its $500 per side for $1000 for the pair.
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