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11-13-2001, 09:34 PM
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#1 | | TECH Fanatic
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| Owners of McLeod dual disk - please comment I am trying to do a last minute evaluation between getting a Cartek or a McLeod dual disk setup. Basically, I am going to need something reliable, that can be used on the street, and will hold about 470 RWHP. Any comments on the McLeod? I have seen very little negative stuff on the Carteks.
__________________ 2006 C6: Victory Red, being converted into a Lingenfelter 25th Anv. Commemorative Edition, #10 of 25, with twin turbo 427. 2004 WRX STi: Major mods, 445 WHP, 423 WTQ. About to shoot for 700 WHP and 9s with latest round of mods. 2006 Ram SRT-10 Quad Cab: Fast family and stuff hauler. 2005 Forester XT: Slower family hauler. Will be replaced with Jeep SRT-8 in April. Former car:2000 Z28, MTI 422, 10.51@135 spraying second and higher. Now in 8s with new owner. |
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11-13-2001, 09:45 PM
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#2 | | Gear shifting moderator
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| Re: Owners of McLeod dual disk - please comment [quote]Originally posted by WeatherGuy:
<strong>I am trying to do a last minute evaluation between getting a Cartek or a McLeod dual disk setup. Basically, I am going to need something reliable, that can be used on the street, and will hold about 470 RWHP. Any comments on the McLeod? I have seen very little negative stuff on the Carteks.</strong><hr></blockquote>
You should look at how much rwtq your car will be producing. That is generally how clutches are rated. I know romanss made 9xx rwtq with his dual disk. How high do you plan on spinning the motor? Mcleod doesn't recommend the dual disk if you are going to be shifting the car higher than 6400 rpms or so.
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11-13-2001, 10:11 PM
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| Re: Owners of McLeod dual disk - please comment 6400 is about where I would be looking to shift, if not 100-200 rpm less, so I would definitely not be going over that level. Also, I would be looking at about 500 or so RWTQ - not likely to go over that unless I add a 200 shot or something along those lines, but that would be better than one year off.
__________________ 2006 C6: Victory Red, being converted into a Lingenfelter 25th Anv. Commemorative Edition, #10 of 25, with twin turbo 427. 2004 WRX STi: Major mods, 445 WHP, 423 WTQ. About to shoot for 700 WHP and 9s with latest round of mods. 2006 Ram SRT-10 Quad Cab: Fast family and stuff hauler. 2005 Forester XT: Slower family hauler. Will be replaced with Jeep SRT-8 in April. Former car:2000 Z28, MTI 422, 10.51@135 spraying second and higher. Now in 8s with new owner. |
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11-13-2001, 10:57 PM
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| Re: Owners of McLeod dual disk - please comment I run the Mcleod Twin Disc. I still have the old 1370 throw out bearing in there. Thats before the adjustble master came out. Its a great clutch. Not for the weak hearted though. Stiffer pedal and a little knotchy. But i aslo drive a International 4700 DT466E so its a cake compared to that. But this clutch will show you your weak points in your drivetrain. I broke 1 driveshaft and 2 torque arms. I have a Moser 12 bolt but if you have a 10 bolt be prepared to by a 12 bolt. As for daily driving you have to get used to it. Hope you dont drive in alot of traffic with it cause its not fun. Not undoable just its a on or off clutch no sliping. Just make sure if you do go with the twin have it installed by a shop that knows what there are doing. |
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11-13-2001, 11:07 PM
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| Re: Owners of McLeod dual disk - please comment [quote]Originally posted by Quick Time:
<strong>Not for the weak hearted though. Stiffer pedal and a little knotchy. But i aslo drive a International 4700 DT466E so its a cake compared to that. But this clutch will show you your weak points in your drivetrain. I broke 1 driveshaft and 2 torque arms. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Yikes! The no slip part is great, but the drivetrain stuff scares me a little. I will be putting in a 12-bolt and new driveshaft. However, I am not sure what to do about the torque arm. Have you found one that holds up?
__________________ 2006 C6: Victory Red, being converted into a Lingenfelter 25th Anv. Commemorative Edition, #10 of 25, with twin turbo 427. 2004 WRX STi: Major mods, 445 WHP, 423 WTQ. About to shoot for 700 WHP and 9s with latest round of mods. 2006 Ram SRT-10 Quad Cab: Fast family and stuff hauler. 2005 Forester XT: Slower family hauler. Will be replaced with Jeep SRT-8 in April. Former car:2000 Z28, MTI 422, 10.51@135 spraying second and higher. Now in 8s with new owner. |
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11-13-2001, 11:33 PM
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| Re: Owners of McLeod dual disk - please comment [quote]Originally posted by WeatherGuy:
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Yikes! The no slip part is great, but the drivetrain stuff scares me a little. I will be putting in a 12-bolt and new driveshaft. However, I am not sure what to do about the torque arm. Have you found one that holds up?</strong><hr></blockquote>
might look into getting a 9" it is stronger <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0"> oh and i got the cartek. but it isnt in yet ask Nineball he has had a cartek for a while
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11-13-2001, 11:49 PM
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#7 | | Staging Lane
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| Re: Owners of McLeod dual disk - please comment My Mcleod dual has stood up to 6700 rpm launches with shifts at 6700 rpms and It has been the best , by far , clutch that I have seen.
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11-13-2001, 11:50 PM
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| Re: Owners of McLeod dual disk - please comment I had a mcleod street twin in my car for over a year now and it has always worked even with the stock hydralics. The only thing is i believe it engages too hard for the t-56 and it killed 3 of my trannies! We will see how long this trans hold up after i get it back. Just go with what works and that is the cartek from what i hear instead of taking a risk with a mcleod. |
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11-14-2001, 07:27 AM
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| Re: Owners of McLeod dual disk - please comment OK guys - thanks for the info. Looks like I might be leaning a little bit towards the Cartek way. The McLeod looks rock solid, but also something that looks like it could kill a car as a daily driver.
__________________ 2006 C6: Victory Red, being converted into a Lingenfelter 25th Anv. Commemorative Edition, #10 of 25, with twin turbo 427. 2004 WRX STi: Major mods, 445 WHP, 423 WTQ. About to shoot for 700 WHP and 9s with latest round of mods. 2006 Ram SRT-10 Quad Cab: Fast family and stuff hauler. 2005 Forester XT: Slower family hauler. Will be replaced with Jeep SRT-8 in April. Former car:2000 Z28, MTI 422, 10.51@135 spraying second and higher. Now in 8s with new owner. |
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11-16-2001, 01:07 AM
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#10 | | Staging Lane
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| Re: Owners of McLeod dual disk - please comment [quote]Originally posted by Trace:
<strong>It has been the best , by far , clutch that I have seen.
Trace</strong><hr></blockquote>
The best clutch that WE have ever seen <img src="images/icons/grin.gif" border="0">
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11-16-2001, 07:22 AM
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#11 | | Staging Lane
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| Re: Owners of McLeod dual disk - please comment [quote]Originally posted by WeatherGuy:
<strong>OK guys - thanks for the info. Looks like I might be leaning a little bit towards the Cartek way. The McLeod looks rock solid, but also something that looks like it could kill a car as a daily driver.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I use a Mcloud dual disc in my '98 Corvette, it works great. At least in my expierence, this clutch works fine for daily driving duties. It also has no trouble holding 480 RWTQ. <img src="images/icons/smile.gif" border="0"> |
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11-17-2001, 02:24 PM
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| Re: Owners of McLeod dual disk - please comment OK - maybe I still need more info to make up my mind on this. BTW, thanks guys for the info/experiences.
One thing is the on/off issue on these clutches. It is fabulous for the track provided you have good traction, suspension, and driveline parts. Driving that on the street, though can be another matter. Houston can have brutal stop and go traffic . . . I am trying to picture how to drive an on/off clutch with a large cam in stop and go without eating the rear bumper of the car ahead of me <img src="images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0"> On the other hand, I gotta be able to hold the power without slipping or clutch flames.
__________________ 2006 C6: Victory Red, being converted into a Lingenfelter 25th Anv. Commemorative Edition, #10 of 25, with twin turbo 427. 2004 WRX STi: Major mods, 445 WHP, 423 WTQ. About to shoot for 700 WHP and 9s with latest round of mods. 2006 Ram SRT-10 Quad Cab: Fast family and stuff hauler. 2005 Forester XT: Slower family hauler. Will be replaced with Jeep SRT-8 in April. Former car:2000 Z28, MTI 422, 10.51@135 spraying second and higher. Now in 8s with new owner. |
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