i have the factory remote start and this thing has NO range. even the remote locks have no range. is this normal? like 10-20 feet is all i get.. whats the deal?? batts?? :bang:

Noticed the same with mine, ever the lock, unlock features on both my remotes. Really starting to piss me off. Going to take it to the dealer pretty soon, to have it checked out. I think it is supposed to be like 200ft. working distance. I get like 10-15 feet.

I havent had a problem with mine. I live in an apartment and the garages are attached on the other end of the buliding and it starts fine sitting in my apartment. This is going thru a few walls and a pretty good distance. Mine's an '07 Impala though. I wonder if its just a problem on the 06 models. Just Monte Carlos maybe?

I'll tell you one thing I am unhappy about though.........creaking. I dont even have a thousand miles on the car and have developed a creak somewhere around that pillar that the seatbelt is attached to on the passanger side. Gimme a break.

my remote start works great...you could always try the old trick of putting the tip of the keypad under your chin to increase the range. Seems like when you hit the lock and the remote start the second time it doesn't always add that extra 10 mintues. One other problem I have is driving when its dark the dash lights will flicker once and awhile, doesn't matter how fast I am going but seems like it is worse when I am stopped. It doesnt happen to the lights for the radio or heater though.

I get about 75 feet I would say

I'll tell you one thing I am unhappy about though.........creaking. I dont even have a thousand miles on the car and have developed a creak somewhere around that pillar that the seatbelt is attached to on the passanger side. Gimme a break.

Same here! Only its more of a rattle. same area as you describe.

i am a GM tech and i had the same issue. had to be next to my car to get it to auto start. here is the fix. its an updated software.

Document ID# 1866294
2006 Chevrolet Monte Carlo


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Subject: Remote Keyless Entry (Inop/Intermittent Function) Or Tire Pressure Monitor Concerns - keywords fob RCDLR RKE RVS start TIMS TPM transmitter vehicle #PIC3764N - (10/11/2006)



Models: 2006-2007 Buick Lucerne

2006-2007 Cadillac DTS

2006-2007 Chevrolet Impala and Monte Carlo

2007 Cadillac Escalade and SRX Models

2007 Chevrolet Avalanche, Suburban, Tahoe, Equinox

2007 GMC Yukon and Yukon Denali Models

2007 Pontiac Torrent




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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
The vehicle may exhibit one or more of the following conditions:

The RCDLR and RKE Transmitters will not function after the serial data bus has gone to sleep.
Intermittently inoperative Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) - A condition of intermittent operation of the RKE transmitters (key fobs) has been identified.
Poor RKE range and/or Service Tire Monitor System message
RKE inoperative after programming any module on the vehicle
New RKE transmitters cannot be programmed
Vehicle may display low fob battery.
The RKE and Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) are functions of the Remote Control Door Lock Receiver (RCDLR) with the exception of the 2006 Lucerne which uses the EBCM for Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) since there are no tire pressure sensors mounted inside the wheels.

Recommendation/Instructions:
Note:: When programming a new or existing RCDLR the programming instructions in SI for the must be followed. On vehicles equipped with Tire Pressure Monitoring (TPM), if the tire type and tire pressure are not selected in module setup on the Tech 2, the RCDLR will not retain the tire pressures after the TPM system is learned.

RCDLR and both RKE Transmitters Will Not Function After the Serial Data Bus Has Gone to Sleep:
⇒ Open the drivers door to wake up the serial data bus, then verify the RCDLR functions normally, both transmitter will function.

⇒ Program RCDLR with the latest software available in TIS (New S/W released 9/18/06)

⇒ Steps to follow after programming, refer to SI Control Module References for RCDLR.

⇒ Verify RKE functions after vehicle serial data bus off conditions, 12 - 15 minutes from off powermode. (vehicle doors must be closed, keys out of vehicle and no scan tool connected).

⇒ If RKE will not function open drivers door to wake up serial data bus.

⇒ Replace the RCDLR .

⇒ Program RCDLR with the latest software available in TIS (New S/W released 9/18/06)

⇒ Steps to follow after programming, refer to SI Control Module References for RCDLR.

⇒ Verify RKE functions after vehicle serial data bus off conditions, 12 - 15 minutes from off powermode. (vehicle doors must be closed, keys out of vehicle and no scan tool connected).

Intermittently Inoperative Remote Keyless Entry (RKE): One or more RKE transmitters will not program or function.

Note: If both transmitters will not function confirm item A above.

⇒ Verify concern and attempt to relearn the transmitter(s) to the vehicle.

⇒ If the transmitter operation returns to normal following the relearn function, the inoperative condition may return, new RKE transmitters will be available in late October 2006 to correct the condition.

⇒ If the transmitter operation does not return to normal after transmitter learn, press and hold the Lock, Unlock and Panic buttons simultaneously. Attempt to relearn transmitter(s). The inoperative condition may return, new RKE transmitters will be available in late October 2006 to correct the condition.

⇒ If neither method will restore the transmitter function. New RKE transmitters will be available in late October 2006 to correct the condition. (note: current service stock may correct the condition temporally)

Poor RKE Range and/or Service Tire Monitor System (TPM lost individual sensor data) (Applies to Car models only Impala, Monte Carlo, DTC and Lucerne):

⇒ Follow the diagnostic system check, are there any related DTCs? Are there any DTCs in the RCDLR? If yes follow published diagnostics.

⇒ Verify External Antenna Coax connections at the RCDLR and at the glass.

⇒ Check for proper coax ground attachment of the antenna cable.

⇒ If all checks OK secure the ground attachment on the coax with a self tapping screw, securing it to the (A pillar Impala and Monte Carlo Only) and in (D pillar for DTS and Lucerne.

⇒ If securing the ground attachment on the coax does not restore the RKE range replace the RCDLR and follow programming and setup procedures.

Note: Verify you are using TIS to Web or the latest TIS calibrations so the RCDLR will be programmed with the updated software.

RKE becomes inoperative while programming another module on the vehicle: This may occur during programming of any module on the vehicle or from normal operation.

⇒ Do not replace the RCDLR

⇒ Program RCDLR with the latest S/W available in TIS (New S/W released 9-18-06)

⇒ Steps to follow after programming, refer to SI Control Module References for RCDLR.

New RKE Transmitters Will Not Program or Inoperative

⇒ Press Lock, Unlock and Panic together and hold for 3-5 seconds.

⇒ Perform transmitter learn procedure.

⇒ Verify all functions. This can be done using the scan tool and monitoring the transmitter commands.

⇒ If programming is unsuccessful, new RKE transmitters will be available late October 2006.

If the RKE transmitter low battery message is displayed.

⇒ Press and hold the lock, unlock and panic buttons to restore transmitter function. Attempt to relearn the transmitters.

⇒ If complete function is restored in the RKE system. The condition may return, new RKE Transmitters will be available in late October 2006.

⇒ If the transmitter function will not return to normal, current service stock may fix the condition temporally new RKE transmitters will be available in late October 2006.

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.



GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
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Document ID# 1866294
2006 Chevrolet Monte Carlo

Kissmyss03 beat me to it. A tech at another forum told me about it. Make sure to write down the Document ID for the dealer or they will tell you there's nothing listed for the Imp.

Ultimately, it involves a new program and grounding the antenna better. Right now, there is a copper washer that is held against the driver side A-pillar with a plastic push-tab...not exactly the best way to ground it. They'll replace it with a self-tapping metal screw which should help. This is on my list of things to have done when i get back to the dealer for the other thousand issues i'm having. Mysterious "clunk" from right-rear suspension, no range from remote, pass. side seat heater is acting funky again (turns off for no reason at times), they replaced the right-front tie rod and now it sounds as if the left is bad, the ISS (intermediate steering shaft) is clicking (same problem they never fixed on the 00-05 Imps - ***king GM), ummm...i've got a list somewhere.

Same here! Only its more of a rattle. same area as you describe.


Hmm, I got sort of a rattle, I thought it was the trunk lid but I didnt try to track it down yet, I'll look there. I did have a squeaking sound coming from the driver side in this area, turns out there is a big piece of styrofoam behind the side panel that is along the rear seat bottom cushion. I pulled the panel back along the door edge and sprayed some silicone spray polish (best I had laying around) in there nice and heavy. Squeaking gone. I tried repositioning the panel out a bit before but the squeaking came back so I sprayed it.

ahhh.. so i will print all that out and take it today.. thanks guys.. thats the ticket!!

Hmm, I got sort of a rattle, I thought it was the trunk lid but I didnt try to track it down yet, I'll look there. I did have a squeaking sound coming from the driver side in this area, turns out there is a big piece of styrofoam behind the side panel that is along the rear seat bottom cushion. I pulled the panel back along the door edge and sprayed some silicone spray polish (best I had laying around) in there nice and heavy. Squeaking gone. I tried repositioning the panel out a bit before but the squeaking came back so I sprayed it.

See, that's BS. I'm not doing a thing except taking it right back and telling them to fix it. I dont want to hear a peep when I drive.

Mysterious "clunk" from right-rear suspension,

Nice!! someone else with this issue!!! :jest:

I've had this issue for months and months and months. When the right rear tire hits a hole in the road just right (or if it's big enough), I get a clunking/clanking noise - like a metal on metal noise. Only happens if the wheel/tire goes DOWN first and then up -- if there's a raised structure, like a rib or speedbump etc. in the road, and the wheel goes UP first and then down, it doesn't make the noise.

The dealer had looked at it once before, but they couldn't re-create the noise up on the lift. They had the tire off and checked everything - but everything was nice and tight, nothing loose. They said it could be that backing plate on the back side of the disc.

And as far as the squeeking noises - I've also got it in the rear passenger side - sounds like it's coming from the panel next to the right rear passenger seat. Not really a loud squeeking, but more like creaking or the rubbing styrofoam that was mentioned.

Nice!! someone else with this issue!!! :jest:

I've had this issue for months and months and months. When the right rear tire hits a hole in the road just right (or if it's big enough), I get a clunking/clanking noise - like a metal on metal noise. Only happens if the wheel/tire goes DOWN first and then up -- if there's a raised structure, like a rib or speedbump etc. in the road, and the wheel goes UP first and then down, it doesn't make the noise.

The dealer had looked at it once before, but they couldn't re-create the noise up on the lift. They had the tire off and checked everything - but everything was nice and tight, nothing loose. They said it could be that backing plate on the back side of the disc.

It's been in 4 times for this issue (consecutive saturdays, too :eyes:). On the first visit, they could not recreate the sound. The second visit they said it was the hitch i put on, so they tightened it up...i told them they were out of their mind :eyes: On the third (unrelated visit) i asked them to loosen the hitch bolts that they must have put in at 200lb.ft. torque b/c i couldn't, which they so nicely did. On the fourth visit, i had the hitch off and they then blamed it on the bumper where my wife backed into a p/u truck (at 3-5mph). At that point i told them they were full of $h!t!

I've since had the bumper replaced (yesterday) and the noise is still there. All i know is that when there is weight transfer from side to side, it happens, like when hitting uneven pavement (at any speed) or entering a driveway from an angle...when the car moves side to side, the clunk can be heard. My collision guy said it might be hub/axle related...loosness or play in the axle...and he did also mention the backing plate.

I don't know but haven't given up on it yet. :bang:

LOL -- we'll get these things figured out eventually!!

I have the same issue with squeaking coming from passenger side rear. It does not do it every time, but it is annoying. Trunk does not open every time I press remote. Squeaking from drivers side door panel also. GM will never get it right.

The trunk is likely the remote issue for you, ATL HAWK. As far as the squeking goes, i've been so caught up with this "clunk" that i've not listened for other noises...cept the clicking of the ISS and the tie rod issues.

Maybe it's me, but i have a helluva time with suspension issues. I probably spent $1500 on my Explorer's ball joint problems before i traded her in.

for my remote issue it goes in tuesday to see whats up.. i took in the Document ID# 1866294 that kissmyss03 posted and the shop guy looked at it and just blew it off. what a dork.. we will see.. i hope they fix it.. he said, did you replace the batts in the key fobs.. i said, HEY..it's a 06 with 3,000 miles.. if i have to replace batts in both key fobs every 3,000 miles you can have the car back.. lol..

Took my car to the dealer in september and they told me there was nothing wrong with it and tried to blame the poor range on overhead lights and all the bs in the book.

I can be up on the second floor of my house and at the opposite end of the house away from the garage, and I can start my car. But put it outside at work, where the sun/glare is shining in the windows on the dash, and I have to be at about 20' before the remote will work... so I know lighting and the way it hits the dash sensor definitely plays a role...

It is an RF system, lighting has no bearing on function. Maybe at your work there is a higher background RF level affecting range compared to your house

In my office right now, standing 30' away from my car looking through a double-paned window, i needed to put the fob to my chin to get the range. This a bunch of BS. It has everything to do with the fact that the system is not properly grounded and sh!tty electronics.

I can be up on the second floor of my house and at the opposite end of the house away from the garage, and I can start my car. But put it outside at work, where the sun/glare is shining in the windows on the dash, and I have to be at about 20' before the remote will work... so I know lighting and the way it hits the dash sensor definitely plays a role...

The dash sensor is for your headlights, the antenna for the remote keyless entry/start is in the windshield.

Yah, look up on the front drivers side.

UPDATE.. after telling them to get on the ball and FIX IT!.. they ended up looking into some GM tech doc's and ordered a new receiver unit and 2 new key fobs.. will go back in tomorrow for the install.. i will update then..

hmm, interesting.
must be a imp/mc ordeal only.

Took the car to the dealer today because one of the fob's stopped working. The guy told me that GM is aware of the problems with the remote start and keyless entry. Only the Impala and Monte affected. He wouldn't give me a new one but said they will have a fix early 07 and basicly will install a new antennea and 2 new transmitters. He said it won't be a recall it will only be a fix to people that complain about it.

yup, that's true... I called my service guy earlier today about the same issue - the fob range and also the Service Tire Monitor System message issue... same fix for both, since they all rely on the remote receiver - and he said the same thing... they'll try the software update first, but he said it only works for about 20% of people - other than that you have to wait until Q1 2007 for the new fix to come out, which includes new coax antenna cable, new remotes, and new receiver.

No remote start troubles to report.. BUT even if the car is locked, I have to lock it again before the remote start will work for some reason.

No remote start troubles to report.. BUT even if the car is locked, I have to lock it again before the remote start will work for some reason.


yes, that's the way it's supposed to be... you have to hit the lock button first, then hold down the start button... it's designed that way, it's normal.

Designed to keep your kids from hitting one button and starting it up...having the key in your purse (or pocket) and accidentally pressing the right button.

mine works fine from a good 1/4 mile away

i can sit in my cube at work, which is about 100 yards from my car, and start it.

what it causing it is the ground behind a pillar. its grounded with a plastic christmas tree. the gm bulletin says to use a self tapping screw to ground it so we did it to my car and replaced the RCDLR and now i can do it from far far away. problem solved.

Document ID# 1875244


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Subject: Remote Keyless Entry (Inop/Intermittent Function) Or Tire Pressure Monitor Concerns - keywords fob RCDLR RKE RVS start TIMS TPM transmitter vehicle #PIC4325A - (12/01/2006)



Models: 2006-2007 Chevrolet Impala and Monte Carlo




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This PI was updated with the latest information on the RKE and TPM concerns, advising dealers of the upcoming TSB. Please discard PIC4325.


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The following diagnosis might be helpful if the vehicle exhibits the symptom(s) described in this PI.

Condition/Concern:
The vehicle may exhibit one or more of the following conditions:

The RCDLR and RKE Transmitters will not function after the serial data bus has gone to sleep.
Intermittently inoperative Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) - A condition of intermittent operation of the RKE transmitters (key fobs) has been identified.
Poor RKE range and/or Service Tire Monitor System message
RKE inoperative after programming any module on the vehicle
New RKE transmitters cannot be programmed
Vehicle may display low fob battery.
Recommendation/Instructions:
A new coax antenna has been developed for the Impala and Monte Carlo. The new coax antenna and the Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) for all the Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) and Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) concerns will be available in January 2007. Do not attempt any further repairs for any RKE or TPM concern on the 2006-2007 Chevrolet Impala or Monte Carlo until the TSB is released.

Note: The parts that were available through the Warranty Parts Center (WPC) have been exhausted and no additional parts will be available through the WPC.

Please follow this diagnostic or repair process thoroughly and complete each step. If the condition exhibited is resolved without completing every step, the remaining steps do not need to be performed.



GM bulletins are intended for use by professional technicians, NOT a "do-it-yourselfer". They are written to inform these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or to provide information that could assist in the proper service of a vehicle. Properly trained technicians have the equipment, tools, safety instructions, and know-how to do a job properly and safely. If a condition is described, DO NOT assume that the bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle will have that condition. See your GM dealer for information on whether your vehicle may benefit from the information.
WE SUPPORT VOLUNTARY TECHNICIAN CERTIFICATION


© Copyright General Motors Corporation. All Rights Reserved.


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Document ID# 1875244

Thanks for all the info. My 06 Impala has poor range. Guess I'll wait until spring to take it in.

hi all,
I have had the same remote issue (will only work 10-20 feet from the car). I brought the car back 5 times!!!! first it was my EZ-pass then my cell phone. then the charger to my cell phone. even though it is not my daily driver it was starting to get annoying. finally the said the attenna had a bad ground. after this was fixed i have not had a problem since.

yes it is a bad ground causing it. the ground is held in by a plastic christmas tree, when u go to dealer they will put a self tapping screw in place of the plastic tree and problem solved

This week I started to have the Service Tire Pressure Monitor message appear when the car went over 65MPH. The car was not receiving a reading from the passenger side rear tire. Everytime I slowed down, it was able to read the sensor.

Is this the same problem that is caused by the bad grounding?

This car is starting to annoy me.

Had the following problems so far:

300 miles (owned car for only 4 days), blown fuse for transmission shift solenoid. Dealer replaced fuse, problem has not reoccurred.

1500 miles (owned car for 1 month) get the Service Tire Pressure Monitor message each time I drive on the highway.

^^^I had the same problem with the rear passender side tire. However, mine only did it once, right at the start of a trip.

My monte has had all of the above problems since almost new. Tire sensor error, remote start not working one day, then working the next. It is stored away now for the winter so I am not too concerned, as soon as the weather is better I will take it in to get fixed...

Jaosn

where do you look up the TSBs...the few places I have found don't have anything on the FOB problems....and i've been dealing with this one from day one...and they told me that after they replaced it...since there was a new part coming out...they weren't going to program my tire pressure monitor....so for the last 3 months I have to measure them manually...what a pain...when it's a feature I specifically paid for....just to clear up that I'm not lazy

I would tell you but I would have to kill you.
Sounds like the typical bs you get from those damn dealerships. They probably didn't reprogram the tire pressure moniter system because it probably wouldn't help. Don't worry though, there should be a new antenna out if Feb.

yes it is a bad ground causing it. the ground is held in by a plastic christmas tree, when u go to dealer they will put a self tapping screw in place of the plastic tree and problem solved


can you get some pics and instructions??? :hail:

It's not just the grounding...you need the techII to reprogram the system as well.

THat fix didn't work for everyone so for some they're regrounding a new module...which is what we're waiting for parts for.

and there's supposed to be a new coax cable they're using and putting in as well...

They told me two new transmitters and new antenna maybe coax too. I've been too lazy to call to see if they got the parts in. They usually have the TSB's at the NHTSA website, I didn't see any for this problem though.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/problems/trd/?name=#TECHNICAL)

I called the dealer today and complained about the range for the remote start and they said I needed a new antenna and they ordered it. They didn't even want me to take the car in to check it out... they must be getting a lot of complaints.

IIRC, the problem is throughout the entire '06 line of vehicles. Very common issue. I know at the minimum it affects the Imp, MC and Lucerne...and i KNOW there were more GM vehicles listed on the service bulletin.

my 07 is also on the list as well. i am waiting for the "new" parts to be in.

my 07 is also on the list as well. i am waiting for the "new" parts to be in.
Mine is the 07 as well. I just got three peices for the remote start. I think they replaced the wholoe system. There were three things they replaced including the key fabs. It didn't make my remotes work any better or worse. I work here at the dealership and three of us have 06-07 impalas and all of us did the fix. It only helped one of us. There are a lot of people coming in for this problem. Some people have to almost be on top of there car for it to work. I am going to see if they fixed the christmas tree thing but from there I'll have to see.

Mine is the 07 as well. I just got three peices for the remote start. I think they replaced the wholoe system. There were three things they replaced including the key fabs. It didn't make my remotes work any better or worse. I work here at the dealership and three of us have 06-07 impalas and all of us did the fix. It only helped one of us. There are a lot of people coming in for this problem. Some people have to almost be on top of there car for it to work. I am going to see if they fixed the christmas tree thing but from there I'll have to see.


Let us know.

My Service Manager is going to call me when the new parts come in.

Why dont we hear about the Grand Prixs having this issue?

yea i just took my car in to the dealer a day or 2 ago with the same issue, and i was told by a tech that they arnt allowed to even touch it on the monte's. the imps they have a fix for. But a bullitin came out on the 17th telling techs not to perfom any troubleshooting for the mc untill further notice and they told me to come back in a few months for an update. I think i got fed a line of bullshit since its the same exact system. anybody else get told this?

I'm one of those that need to be on top of their car for it to work. Sucks, man...

I'm one of those that need to be on top of their car for it to work. Sucks, man...

yup, me too...

I'm one of those that need to be on top of their car for it to work. Sucks, man...
Haven't you tried the christmas tree thing?

Let us know.

My Service Manager is going to call me when the new parts come in.

Why dont we hear about the Grand Prixs having this issue?
As soon as a fix is out for my car(at this dealership) the service manager lets me know. I don't get to hear much about the gxp's cause this is a chevy/caddy dealer. The Cadillac's don't have any problem that I have heard of yet(with remote start).

Haven't you tried the christmas tree thing?

No, it's easier to b!tch about it :cry:

Seriously, i don't want to do that on my own and have it not completely fix the problem, then have the dealer say what i did screwed something up.

Also, this isn't just a remote start issue. The problem causes Tire Pressure Monitoring errors as well. On any given morning, i'll get a Low-Pressure warning stating that one of my tires is flat...and they'll all be fine. I'd much rather complain and wait for the right fix than do it half-assed. The module that controls the Remote Start also received the signals from the wheel monitors.

Ultimately, since i've owned her, i haven't been in a position where remotely-starting my vehicle from 100' away would have drastically altered my day :) May have been nice to sit from my desk and hear it rumble to life, but walking the 30' through the office to the front window isn't all that hard either.

Hmmm, I have not seen much of a problem with mine yet. How far is it supposed to be able to work from?

Hmmm, I have not seen much of a problem with mine yet. How far is it supposed to be able to work from?
I have been asked that question being I am a salesman here. They don't give us an exact distance. I would assume they do that for a reason :bang:

specs say it works from up to 200 feet... and mine used to...

"Monte Carlo LT and SS models feature a standard, factory-installed remote vehicle starter system, which operates from up to 200 feet away."

it's right on the chevrolet.com site as well as in the brochure... Am I the only one that reads the brochures?? :)

I also have an extra one that I keep with all my paperwork, original window sticker, build sheet, etc etc... ;)

Hehehehe...200' Suuuuuuure. Maybe in the Great Plains area.

I'd say for every building 75' or taller (in the general area) you lose 25' of remote distance...and that's if they're NOT between you and your car LOL

I also heard 200 feet but I don't like to repeat that. One of the guy's here with an 06 ss imp said his fix worked. He was able to use it from inside the building and his car was probably 150-200' away. I don't get it, it works for some but not everyone. Whatever, like buffaloSS said it really isn't drastically altering my day.

Parts came in, so today I took my car into the dealer for the fix and I must be one of the lucky ones... it worked. They ordered 2 new fobs, coax and receiver. They said they had trouble with the TPM because the instructions they had weren't correct and they had to call GM. Before the fix, I had to be about 20-30 feet away for either the locks or remote start to work. Now I walked about 150-200 feet away and it works. Sure is nice to have the remote start working now that it's below 0 around here.

Sweet. I just took her into the dealer yesterday to take care of all of my issues. They said they needed to order just what you said and that they'd call me when it came in. How long did it take for your parts, pgbSS?

They order them last Wed or Thur... so it took about a week. They called me today to make sure the keyfobs were working OK, which they are. I asked why they called since they never did before after service and they said they did the same thing to another car when they were working on mine and that guy called complaining he had to be within 5' for it to work. Seems strange the dealer performed the same work on 2 cars the same day and mine works and the other one doesn't.... Although I didn't ask if the other car was an IMPSS as well. Good luck with yours.

Thanks for the update...i thought someone said it took them a month to get their parts.

Thanks for the update...i thought someone said it took them a month to get their parts.
It only took a week for the four or five of us at work, maybe less.

Had mine done last week, they had the parts in stock and it made a big difference.

This is my fourth time coming to the dealership. Every time I come in, they act like these FOBs are not supposed to work at the distances described in the brochure. In fact, I was asked, "How do I know this?"....um......your brochures said so when I bought the car.

Then I proceeded to hear another guy at the counter say, "I don't think they're supposed to work that far, in fact, I think the remote starter reduces the range."

AAAGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Keep in mind, I'm at the dealership...in the waiting room as I type...and luckily they have an unsecured wireless network.

They told me that they had a bulletin come out "hours" after I spoke with them on the phone the other day. Only to find out...my vehicle doesn't fall under that bulletin.

So, once I found out I could get on the net here at their own dealership I immediately looked up this thread and showed them the bulletins you guys have posted. The guy looked at me and I could tell he was going to just blow me off. I told him that, this is the same problem I'm experiencing, to which he replied, "My bulletin is different than the one you're talking about."

NO KIDDING! :bang:

Then he proceeded to blow me off and give me the schpiel that the techs would look at it and look up the bulletins. He wouldn't even take a look at what I had to show him, and it wasn't like he was that busy, there were 4 guys at the counter and there was only customer there who left as soon as I walked in.

For paying nearly $30K, I sure would like to not be treated like an idiot.

We'll see what they say when they give me the car back.

Geee, sounds like my dealer, minus the unsecured connection LOL.

I was in last Saturday and as of today, i haven't heard d**k about my parts coming in. I looked at the receipt last night, too, and noticed that only mentioned ordering a new coax antenna and keyfobs...nothing mentioned about the receiver, either.

Anyway, good luck with that.

Is this what you need? This should be the lasted revision of the problem:

http://arrc.epnet.com/autoasp/data.asp?sid=92039363&uid=s9072919.main.autorefctr&type=pdf&ff=078000\076043.pdf&btitle=2006

print out that bulliten i posted and take it there

I have a new receiver and antenna on their way. Im so excited for my remote start to actually work right!!

I also have the fob range and the tire monitor system issue. I took my 06 MC to the dealership today and after waiting for an hour the service guy said there isn't a fix for it yet. Does anybody know when it will be fixable?

That's BS paul. Somewhere in this post is the Document ID for the Technical Service Bulletin...get that and give it to them. There is most certainly a fix for the issue.

I had to send the car to the dealer for another issue (Power Steering line burst) and had them do this while it was in there (she's still in there and i'm driving a POS Uplander). It definitely works better than it did before.

Here we go again, a little updated
Document ID# 1888167
2006 Chevrolet Impala


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Subject: Remote Keyless Entry (RKE) Inoperative, Poor Range, Tire Pressure Monitor (TPM) Message Displayed (Replace Transmitter and Replace/Reprogram Remote Control Door Lock Receiver (RCDLR)) #06-08-52-002C - (01/16/2007)



Models: 2006-2007 Buick Lucerne

2006-2007 Cadillac DTS

2007 Cadillac Escalade, Escalade ESV, Escalade EXT, SRX

2006-2007 Chevrolet Impala

2007 Chevrolet Avalanche, Equinox, Suburban, Tahoe

2007 GMC Yukon, Yukon Denali, Yukon XL, Yukon Denali XL

2007 Pontiac Torrent



Attention: This update does not apply to the 2006-2007 Monte Carlo, which has been temporarily removed from the bulletin. The bulletin will be updated when the Monte Carlo information is available.



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This bulletin is being revised to include the Chevrolet Impala. An additional repair procedure has also been added for the Impala. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 06-08-52-002B (Section 08 -- Body & Accessories).


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Condition
Some customers may comment about one or more of the following conditions:

• The remote keyless entry (RKE) transmitters will not program, function and/or the RKE transmitter low battery message is displayed.


• The Service Tire Monitor System message is displayed.


• The new RKE transmitters cannot be programmed.


Cause
Any of these concerns may be caused by an internal fault with the transmitters and/or the RCDLR software/hardware.

Correction
DO NOT REPLACE THE BCM OR RADIO ANTENNA MODULE.

Complete the following repair procedures for all vehicles listed in this bulletin:

Important: When programming a new or existing RCDLR, the programming instructions in SI must be followed.

• On vehicles equipped with Tire Pressure Monitoring (TPM), the tire type and tire pressures must be selected in the module set-up using the Tech 2®. If this step is not performed, the RCDLR will not retain the tire pressures after the TPM system is learned.

Tip: When selecting the Tire Type/Pressure, choose the appropriate selection on the Tech 2 based on psi, not kPa.

• Relearn the TPM sensors using the J 46079 and following the procedure found in SI.


Reprogram the RCDLR with the latest software update available through TIS2WEB.
Important: New transmitters are identified by a star on the back of the transmitter. It is important to verify that the replacement transmitters have a star on the back.

Replace both Remote Keyless Entry transmitters.
Program the transmitters using the procedure listed in SI.
Perform the following steps in the exact order:
4.1. Remove the key from the ignition.

4.2. Open and close the driver's door.

4.3. Close all other doors/trunk/liftgates.

4.4. Wait 5 minutes.

4.5. Press the Unlock Button and verify that the doors all unlock.

• IMPALA ONLY -- proceed to step 5.

• If the customer's concerns are corrected, no further repairs are required.

• If the customer's concerns are NOT corrected, proceed with step 6.

IMPALA ONLY -- the RCDLR antenna MUST be replaced. Use the following procedure to complete the RCDLR antenna replacement. The 2006 and 2007 Impala LS without AP8 does not have a coax antenna.
5.1. Remove the driver's side A-pillar molding and I/P closeout panel.

5.2. Unplug the speaker.

5.3. To expose the remote control door lock receiver (RCDLR) antenna, partially remove the driver's side upper IP closeout panel (near windshield).

5.4. Remove the clips holding the RCDLR antenna wire at the RCDLR antenna module and disconnect the RCDLR antenna from module.

5.5. Remove the remaining clips along the A-pillar.

5.6. Cut the old RCDLR antenna wire a minimum of 152 mm (6 in) from the button (connecting to the windshield), leaving that portion of the old RCDLR antenna connected to the windshield.

5.7. Remove the IP carrier bolt and remove the old RCDLR antenna.

5.8. Lay in the new RCDLR antenna and reinstall the carrier bolt.

5.9. Connect the new antenna to the RCDLR antenna module.

5.10. Clip the new RCDLR antenna into place using the existing holes on the A-pillar.

5.11. Verify the customer's concern is corrected.

- If the customer's concern is not corrected, proceed with step 6.

- If it is corrected, complete steps 5.12 thru 5.14. No further repairs are required.

5.12. Reinstall the I/P close-out panel.

5.13. Reconnect the speaker wire.


Important: Be sure that the end of the old RCDLR antenna is tucked behind the A-pillar molding. The button on the windshield is no longer functional, however leaving the cover on the button will provide a cleaner look to the vehicle.


5.14. Reinstall the A-pillar molding and IP side closeout panel.

Important: In most cases, steps 1-3 will correct the customer's concern. In a few cases, it may be necessary to replace the RCDLR.

If the customer's concern is still present, replace the RCDLR.
Program the RCDLR with the latest software update available through TIS2WEB.
Reprogram both Remote Keyless Entry transmitters.
Parts Information
Important: Refer to the parts catalog to identify the correct part numbers for the vehicle being serviced.

Fullsize Utility: Part Number
Description

15913420
Transmitter -- 3 Button

15913416
Transmitter -- with Liftglass

15913418
Transmitter -- with Liftglass and Power Liftgate

15913427
Transmitter -- with Liftglass, Power Liftgate and Remote Vehicle Start System

15913422
Transmitter -- EXPORT ONLY with Liftglass and Power Liftgate

15913426
Transmitter -- JAPAN ONLY -- with Liftglass and Power Liftgate

15913421
Transmitter -- with Remote Vehicle Start System

Equinox, Torrent: Part Number
Description

15913420
Transmitter -- 3 Button

15913421
Transmitter -- with Remote Vehicle Start System

Lucerne: Part Number
Description

15912859
Transmitter -- 4 Button with Trunk

15912860
Transmitter -- with Remote Vehicle Start System

DTS: Part Number
Description

15912860
Transmitter -- with Remote Vehicle Start Sys

15913507
Transmitter -- JAPAN ONLY with Remote Vehicle Start System

SRX: Part Number
Description

15916015
Transmitter -- with Power Liftgate

25784074
Transmitter -- EXPORT ONLY with Power Liftgate

Impala: Part Number
Description

25837954
Antenna -- Remote Control Door Lock Receiver (Impala Only)

15912859
Transmitter -- 4 Button with Trunk

15912860
Transmitter -- with Remote Vehicle Start Sys


Warranty Information
For vehicles repaired under warranty, use:

Labor Operation
Description
Labor Time

R9727*
RCDLR Reprogram and RKE Transmitter Replace (All Vehicles -- excluding Impala)
1.0 hr

R9728
RCDLR and RKE Transmitter - Replace [includes time to reprogram RCDLR] (All vehicles -- excluding Impala)
1.9 hrs

R9729
RCDLR Reprogram, RKE Transmitter and RCDLR Antenna Replace -- Impala Only
1.2 hrs

R9730
RCDLR, RKE Transmitter and RCDLR Antenna -- Replace [Includes time to reprogram RCDLR] Impala Only
2.2 hrs

*This is a unique labor operation number for bulletin use only. The number will not be published in the Labor Time Guide.




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Document ID# 1888167
2006 Chevrolet Impala

Hmmmm...that's a new one. Hope that's the treatment i'm getting right now. Don't want this done half-assed now that it's finally getting done after all this complaining.

Silver...when did this one come out?

"Attention: This update does not apply to the 2006-2007 Monte Carlo, which has been temporarily removed from the bulletin. The bulletin will be updated when the Monte Carlo information is available. "

That sucks. I guess I will just have to wait until they update it again. Hopefully it will be sometime soon. I wonder why this will work for the Impala but not the Monte.

SILVER LS4 thanks for posting this.

That bulletin came out in Feb. Sorry for the Monte Carlos. I'm sure there will be something out soon.

You gotta be ***king kidding me! Called the dealer today, as the parts were supposed to be in for the keyless system and the PS system. The PS line came in and was fixed, but now i'm waiting for two adapters for the new keyless wiring or something like that...and it's on NATIONAL BACKORDER! He said it could be 2 days or 2 weeks...so i'm still driving this POS Uplander. I told them they needed to get me something better to drive and fast! I'm sick of driving this effing thing!

2 weeks? GTFOutta here! I've figured it out...between the tensioner braking, the VAT system and ECM failing, the Power steering issue and all of my other issues, the car has been in the dealers possession for 1 month out of the 17 months i've owned it.

Going to pick the Impala back up here in a few minutes, got new antenna, new fobs, new module and some programming update on it.

You gotta be ***king kidding me! Called the dealer today, as the parts were supposed to be in for the keyless system and the PS system. The PS line came in and was fixed, but now i'm waiting for two adapters for the new keyless wiring or something like that...and it's on NATIONAL BACKORDER! He said it could be 2 days or 2 weeks...so i'm still driving this POS Uplander. I told them they needed to get me something better to drive and fast! I'm sick of driving this effing thing!

2 weeks? GTFOutta here! I've figured it out...between the tensioner braking, the VAT system and ECM failing, the Power steering issue and all of my other issues, the car has been in the dealers possession for 1 month out of the 17 months i've owned it.

Dang ... you shoulda got your car back in the interim. Sucks when you have a nice car and they give you a loaner / rental that's not the same type.

I'm sure an Uplander is in the same $$$ catagory, but a minivan??? :cry:

Got a message on my answering machine from the dealer stating that there is now another update for the remote keyless and the tire monitor problems got my fingers crossed!!

really? for what car, the MC?

yes i have a 2006 monte carlo 3LT but i imagine it will be for all the monte carlo's

Just yesterday i got 2 TPMS errors showing 7psi at the front left tire...couldn't get the cap off the stem to test the pressure, but it sure wasn't 7...after about an hour, all was normal again. Looks like 2 weeks wasn't enough time to fix the problem properly :eyes:

Buff - Did you get the cap off?

Saw validation failures with the old Schraeder (sp?) PSI valve stems and the metal caps, the salt would weld the caps to the stems, and people would break the valve bodies trying to twist them loose.

Thought that was addressed a couple years back - I watched mine all winter, and had no problems.

Maybe you might just need to retrain the PSI system? Was it done at the dealer when it was installed?

No, i didn't attempt to get it off after that...didn't have a pliers handy. They're aftermarket chrome caps...someone stole one of my stock caps. She's been washed a few times since they last salted, but i'll get it off tonight when i do the sway bar and wire brush it up to make sure there's no salt on there.

To be honest, i don't know if they retrained it there. Yeah, they should have, but i'd bet they didn't.

Anyone know the trick about using a magnet to retrain the system instead of letting out enough air to get it to work? That's a PITA imo.

This can be done by placing a J-41760 magnet (or other BF magnet) over the valve stem...

Magnet method: With the key on, engine off, press both the lock and unlock buttons on the key fob. A horn chirp within 10 seconds indicates the TPMS receiver is in the programming mode. Place the magnet over the left front valve stem until the horn chirps. This forces the LF pressure sensor to transmit its code to the main module. Repeat the same procedure for the right front, right rear and left rear sensors in this order. Verify all four pressure readings are displayed on the driver information center.

Also, if the battery is disconnected or drops below a certain voltage, the vehicle may forget the location of the tire pressure sensors and have to be reset. This may also set diagnostic trouble codes for all four pressure sensors.

The receiver for the wheel pressure transponder signals is the keyless entry system module. If there's a problem with this module, it will obviously affect both the ability to unlock the doors with the remove key fob and the ability to monitor tire pressures.



here's a pic of a kit where you can see the kind of magnet they use - looks like a thick donut magnet that slips over/around the valve stem... http://www.autorepairmanuals.biz/images/site/common/en/image/imagewrap.img?picture.image.url=http://www.autorepairmanuals.biz/members/573683/uploaded/otc3833s.gif&picture.width.max=200&picture.height.max=0

Hmmmm...looks expensive...lol

Does the magnet work with the current DIC? I thought the systems are from two different suppliers.

Supplier magnets were also cylindrical rare earth ones, super strong like on the tips of those extending ones to grab bolts from under your car. Have 2 on the fridge, people love to try and seperate them, usually get skin snapped between them.

The magnet method is by far the easiest way, who ever heard of deflating your tires to train? POS

Got the cap off and cleaned up the stem...no biggie. Just gotta get around to retraining the sensors...POS is right. I paid good money for my N2flation system from DunnTire when i had my winters installed...don't wanna go letting that ***t out, you know? LOL (j/k...the N2 was included in the price of the tire install...please don't smack me :judge: )

Does anybody know if the bulletin has been updated for the Monte Carlo yet?

i had my monte into the dealer a few weeks ago for the new antenna and receiver, and the car still has a range of 10-20 feet on a good day, but if you park a car infront of it no range at all! this sucks!

Got the cap off and cleaned up the stem...no biggie. Just gotta get around to retraining the sensors...POS is right. I paid good money for my N2flation system from DunnTire when i had my winters installed...don't wanna go letting that ***t out, you know? LOL (j/k...the N2 was included in the price of the tire install...please don't smack me :judge: )

You do know that air is like 79% Nitrogen anyway right. . .if i am remembering college right

I know...i brought that up in jest. I found it funny that they make these claims about upping gas mileage with the stuff...

I will say, though, i didn't have to put air in my tires since i had the winters installed...FWIW.

Just got my Monte home from the GM dealer to fix the remote/service tire monitor system problem and it seems that they got it, I have a 300 foot range now. They also replaced the right front wheel bearing assembly, I feel allot better now!!

I know...i brought that up in jest. I found it funny that they make these claims about upping gas mileage with the stuff...

I will say, though, i didn't have to put air in my tires since i had the winters installed...FWIW.

I aired mine when it was cold almost 4 months ago and everything is still the same. The only plus I've read is no moisture which is where the extra weight would come from and to avoid long term degrading of the tire and wheel from the O2 along with moisture.

Not enough benefit for the cost.

The moisture inside your tires will definitely cause them to increase more rapidly in pressure, because of heat build up. Back in my open wheel modified days we used nitrogen in our tires, not because there is anything special about nitrogen accept that it has 0% moisture in it. If you know someone that has a big body shop they usually have a pretty elaborate air dryer to keep water out of the paint I know I’ve gone to gas stations that have an air compressor and the first second of air that comes out is filled with water! remember the more dry the air is the better!!

Just got my Monte home from the GM dealer to fix the remote/service tire monitor system problem and it seems that they got it, I have a 300 foot range now. They also replaced the right front wheel bearing assembly, I feel allot better now!!

Mine is not quite that good, but I am hovering around the 60m range they advertised on an open parking lot. Maybe 30m from inside a building, plenty good enough for me

Took my Impala in yesterday. Range was down to about 30'. They ordered the parts yesterday, got them today and had it ready by 5. When I got home I walked about 125' into the corn field plus the 200' to the back yard and everything worked perfect. Makes a big difference. I could have walked another 50-60' and still had line of sight, but got lazy.

Hmmmm...cornfields....THAT's what i'm doing wrong. I'd say you don't have much radio interference out there, huh?

Hmmmm...cornfields....THAT's what i'm doing wrong. I'd say you don't have much radio interference out there, huh?

Hah, and you all thought putting the FOB under your chin works!

Here is one for you when my remotes wouldn't work from more then 15 feet I tried the under the chin thing, and gained about 5 feet. then I got to thinking... so I dug around and found a large stainless steel mixing bowl... lol you guessed it, I made it into a big satellite for the transmitter I could then start it from about 80 feet and from inside my house. I couldn't believe it worked so if you don't want to fix your cars just carry around a 15 inch stainless mixing bowl lol!!

Lofl!

I'm finally getting to posting my follow up. After I waited around for 3 hours at the dealership. They told me they fixed the car and everything worked perfectly. I held my breath...and rightly so. I got the fobs, stepped outside, a mere 10 feet away, and no luck...with either fob. Walked right back inside and told them that they're not working. After much discussion we came to an agreement that they would order the "new" part that just came out that day.

I must have asked 5 times if it was a new revision, and not just a new part. They assured me it was a new revision.

Got in the car and of course the tire pressure monitors don't work either.


So I set up another appointment. Come in...I meet family there and go get something to eat. On our way back we pass my vehicle on the road. I didn't see a reason they would need to be driving the car around when they're trying to fix the remotes. Their excuse was that they had to drive it for the Tire Pressure Monitor to relearn.

Can someone verify this for me? I don't know.

However, the problem is still not fixed.

Finally they agree to give me a loaner the following weekend and keep the car for a week to get it resolved. I get the loaner the next weekend. 2 hours later they call me and tell me its fixed. However, I couldn't get to the phone or come in that day as I went out of town after I dropped it off. Good thing though, because I talked get a call the next day saying that it wasn't fixed after all and needed to keep it.

Finally I get it back at the end of the week and everything seemed to be working ok. Except that they didn't install the pillar trims correctly and after closer inspection, noticed that the had broke both of them.

It's been about 3/4 weeks now and it definitely has better range than before. I'm not sold that the range is what it should be...but it's good enough. I found out that they installed a completely different antenna and receiver. The antenna in the windshield is now disconnected and the new one rests in the driver side pillar, which may be why the distance still doesn't seem completely 100% (more like 90%).

That being said...I still have a problem where the panic alarm goes off randomly when I open the trunk. I don't know why, but it scares the crap out of me and I know it's not me accidentally pressing the button because I account for that when I open it and it still goes off randomly. Weird.

The only other thing is that I did notice once or twice within the last week the turn signal started to make the same strange sound it would make when I was having the problems before. So if history teaches me anything...I'm in for some more headaches....suck. :bang:

well, i had the new receiver and antenna installed a few months ago, and my range is a massive 15 feet, or less if i have big obstacles like a trash barrell or smothing big like that near the car. Of course when i took it to the stealership and tell them they get pissy and try it within the 15 feet and it works of course. So i tell them to go park the car in the lot near the other cars, and it wont work until your 5 feet away and they say it should it must be the aftermarket stereo or the other mods like intake and exhaust that mess up the range. i hate these stealerships!

well, i had the new receiver and antenna installed a few months ago, and my range is a massive 15 feet, or less if i have big obstacles like a trash barrell or smothing big like that near the car. Of course when i took it to the stealership and tell them they get pissy and try it within the 15 feet and it works of course. So i tell them to go park the car in the lot near the other cars, and it wont work until your 5 feet away and they say it should it must be the aftermarket stereo or the other mods like intake and exhaust that mess up the range. i hate these stealerships!

Tell them to prove your intake or exhaust is causing the range limitation. That is BS and a cop out. Call the 1800 number and get GM involved.

ucfmat13,

I am assuming that you have a ‘06 or a ‘07 Monte and where you asked about them taking your car out for a drive to relearn the tire positions. That my friend is a bunch of B.S. for it to relearn the tire position you have to get it to the relearn screen on the DIC and push the check mark button to start the process. Then you let about 5 seconds of air out of the left front then the horn honks then the right front honk, then the right rear honk, then the left rear honk turn the key off, fill the tires back up with the proper amount of air, done! The book says nothing about driving it to relearn. Sounds like they’re giving you the old dick with him long enough and he’ll just give up treatment. My old antenna is also cut off and just stuck in the hole on the a-pillar and it works good, atleast 200 feet.

I went to the dealer to get the TPMS issue fixed. It just needed a new sensor in one of the tires. What gets me is I had a fob stop working and he wouldn't give me a new one. He said they have to replace the antennea and give me two new fob's and it will take about 4 hours to do. The range is fine on the one that works and I don't really want them removing the dash.

It's been about a month and i still get TPMS errors and the range is so-so.,..just don't want to lost the car for another coupla weeks.

The dealer got the parts in and installed it in my MC today. Took about 3-4 hours and seems to be working good.

My Left-rear TPM is shot...keeps giving me the "Service Tire Pressure System" error on every startup with no reading at the Left-rear. Geee, yet another trip to the ***king dealer! Just lovely! Now i can b!tch about the scratched glass, too, which will require replacing at every door.

Damn Buff, more problems?!?!?

Maybe you should start thinking about that G8??? :lol:

The G8 can suck **lls...i don't like it one bit. I'll hold out for the RWD Imp "of the future" thank you!

:jest:

Checked my tire pressure monitoring today and all of them just have --- on them, doah!! Should have checked that before I left the dealer. I had them rotate the tires hopefully I just have to do that learning feature in the DIC

Regardless they should read SOME pressure...just not at the right wheels.

well, i figured I'd bring this thread back to see if i can get some help fixing my 07 impalas remote locks and starter since this is the most i can find on the web about the problems I'm having. The remotes have just stopped working and the car is no longer under any warranty so I'm trying to do this on my own because the dealer isn't much help. I checked the ground under the a-pillar and it wasn't even touching the metal so i sanded some paint away and pushed the pin back in but still nothing(I'm gonna run a self tapping screw in it tomorrow) I was wondering if i could buy the new antenna and rcdlr from the dealer or gmpartsdirect.com and install myself to fix the problem or if i would still need a scan tool and new programming? I searched the part number found in this thread for the antenna and i can get it for about 30 bucks through GMpartsdirect.com but cant seem to find the brain box.

Good question. I believe it requires some programming...so the dealer may be your only option. How far outta warranty are you? Because it's such a common problem with just about every car needing it, maybe the dealer/GM could cut you some slack...?

I'll call the dealer and see what they say about the programming but i would like to think that a ''new'' RCDLR would have the newest programming already installed in it to fix the tire pressure problems and the remote problems. I'm going to at least try the new antenna and go from there. as far as warranty, I'll have to check into seeing if they will at least work with me on this problem since, like you said, it's so common.

If they don't help you i would ask to talk to someone who has worked on the problem and see if they can give you some tips on Do-It-yourself i've made great freinds at dealers doing this

Wow I'd like to give the electrical engineer who put that Xmas tree plug to be used as a ground a thing or 4. I decided to take down my garnish moulding and I halfway craked the the damn clip mount....Now I'm really pissed. I pryed off the xmas tree plug and the head of that broke off and went flying across the street.....Now theres just tree bark in the hole!! I pull it out with the pliars and more of it breaks off! So I just push the damn thing through and it falls into oblivian.....Time to find a bolt that will fit....out of all the zillions of boltzzzzz I have none are big enough with a self tapping thread....No I gott wait till the morning to get one all while my moulding is drying..I bet it will break again when i put if back up.......My head liner squeaks.....

.......My head liner squeaks.....

Mine had a BSR also - found that the foam block that the velcro strip is attached to had broke away from the headliner.

I removed it until spring, then I will hot melt it back on.

well i have no real updates but did call the dealer to price stuff. the antenna is 35 bucks, RCDLR is 97 bucks,and new remotes are 107 bucks. I asked if the new RCDLR came with the new programming and the answer was no and that i would have to have it reflashed so i asked if i could just use the old one and have it reflashed but they said they cant reflash the stock one?????????? I'm going to try the antenna and see if that works before i buy the new remotes and RCDLR. I did find a guy on ebay that has the remotes and RCDLR new for 50 bucks so i might just buy those. Has anyone installed the new revised antenna that you cut the stock one off by the glass?

I appreciate all the good data in this thread. My 07 had TPS light issues and no range on the remotes whatsoever and last night, the remotes quit working completely until a door was opened. I took it to the dealer expecting the "we don't know what it is" reply like I got when I brought it in for the TPS light after I bought it. They installed a new antenna cable, RCDLR, new remotes, and improved the ground. I'm impressed. They had it for about 3 hours. Everything works as it should now.

Glad you got it taken care of.