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11-19-2008, 07:15 PM
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| Bolt-on Autos: Chime in please I think I am short shifting the hell out my car. My shift points are set at 1-2 at 5550rpm and 2-3 at 5500rpm. My car has never been on a dyno, so I dont know where it peaks at. It crosses through the traps at 6100-6200rpm.What should a typical bolt on car shift points be set at? What do you have your shift points set at?
Thanks,
Matt
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11-19-2008, 08:05 PM
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| I'd atleast do 6000. I shifted at 6100 and I shift at 6300 with the cam. If you really want to know where to shift, spend 50 bucks and get a few dyno runs.
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11-20-2008, 10:09 AM
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| shift My car is bolt on I shift at 6050 |
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11-20-2008, 09:52 PM
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| 6100 for me. |
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11-20-2008, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by MATTREDSS I think I am short shifting the hell out my car. My shift points are set at 1-2 at 5550rpm and 2-3 at 5500rpm. My car has never been on a dyno, so I dont know where it peaks at. It crosses through the traps at 6100-6200rpm.What should a typical bolt on car shift points be set at? What do you have your shift points set at?
Thanks,
Matt | Did u get ur car tuned to shift then? If not then it might just be ur tach is off and showing 5500 when ur actually closer to 6k.
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11-20-2008, 10:01 PM
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| my tach is 250rpms too high... most tachs are off....
anyways... ms4 cam and i shift at 6300-6400
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11-20-2008, 10:53 PM
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| my shift points are set at 6200 i think i was told by my tuner
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11-21-2008, 06:23 PM
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| when i was stock internal my shift points were around 6200
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11-22-2008, 11:53 AM
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| Thanks everyone, I am going to make my changes tomorrow when I go to the track.
Matt
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11-22-2008, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by GT Griller Did u get ur car tuned to shift then? If not then it might just be ur tach is off and showing 5500 when ur actually closer to 6k. | I have my shift points set at 5500 using the predator.
Matt
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11-22-2008, 12:13 PM
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| I doubt a stock cam makes power to 6200. When my car was on the dyno with stock cam it fell off real steep at 5500. |
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11-22-2008, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TA1364 I doubt a stock cam makes power to 6200. When my car was on the dyno with stock cam it fell off real steep at 5500. | yeah but you gotta take into account shift extensions...ask all the top guys on the SI list...i can gaurantee no one is shifting under 5900...
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11-22-2008, 12:39 PM
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| Are you logging to see your shift points or just watching the tach? My 1-2 shift is set at 6100 and logging shows it shifts between 6050 and 6150. But it looks like 5700 on the tach.
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11-22-2008, 12:44 PM
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#14 | | On The Tree
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| MS3 and PRC heads....6500 rpm....backed it down from 6600....cam is still making power there though
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11-22-2008, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KBG MS3 and PRC heads....6500 rpm....backed it down from 6600....cam is still making power there though | my dad is running the same with stage 2.5 PRC 5.3 heads...shifting at 6900...running 10.50s
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11-22-2008, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by chrs1313 yeah but you gotta take into account shift extensions...ask all the top guys on the SI list...i can gaurantee no one is shifting under 5900... | Not only that its about the average power during the entire gear. My car without headers or stall shifts at 6000 and runs pretty good. Data logging shows that my car shifting at 6000 puts me at 3800 in the next gear, and my car doesn't make much power down there. I'm gonna try 6200 next time at the track and see what difference it makes. |
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11-22-2008, 09:43 PM
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| i still have factory shift points for my auto with a tr224/3200stall
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11-22-2008, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4 i still have factory shift points for my auto with a tr224/3200stall | Factory shift points are 6000, you should try 6400-6600. |
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11-27-2008, 10:07 AM
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#19 | | On The Tree
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| i have mine set at 6600 with my set up, but for some reason its still shifting at 6k. i recomend with a stock cam dont take your car over 6k. when i had just bolt ons my shift points were at 6500. well after only a couple months i bent a push rod because of that. stock push rods are the weakest link in your valve train. if you dont like where your rpm's fall down to after a shift, get a stall.
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11-27-2008, 10:22 AM
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| 6300 in 1-2 and 6200 in 2-3 and the car pulls real well up there too!
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