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Old 12-20-2008, 07:12 PM   #21
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MSD 8522 - Pro Billet Oil Plug / Cam Sync

I'm using a 302 based engine, so I will use the cam sync thingy from a 5.0 Explorer. They had coil on plug and came with exactly the same type of arrangement as shown above.
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Wonder how hard it would be to adapt it to the LT1 and just ditch the opti.

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Old 12-21-2008, 12:53 PM   #23
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I think the LT1 conversion is pretty cut and dried.

http://www.eficonnection.com/eficonn..._cylinder.aspx

Its expensive but I'm sure it'd pay for itself in time.
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Old 12-21-2008, 02:32 PM   #24
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Even if the firing order WERE different, what would it matter? Like swapping plug wires, you'd just need to swap coil leads. . . .
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I think you can change the firing order in HP Tuners (EFI Live as well I bet).
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Old 12-22-2008, 03:58 PM   #26
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Even if the firing order WERE different, what would it matter? Like swapping plug wires, you'd just need to swap coil leads. . . .
For closed LOOP fuel control, the PCM controls banks of cylinders, either it makes richer, or leans it out.

When PCM see's a lean condition on Bank 1, originally cylinder 1,3,5,7, it will add fuel to all those cylinders independent from what BANK 2 needs.

If you rewire you're injectors and now an injector originally on bank 1 is now mixed with some originally on bank 2, when the computer goes to adjust fuel based on oxygen sensor feedback, some cylinders are not going to be adjusted.

I believe the firing order function only is for MISSFIRE diagnostics. I don't believe it actually changes the order the PCM fire injectors/coils. There have been threads about this before.

Unless you can tell the PCM which cylinders are BANK 1 and which are BANK 2, its going to be hard to do CLOSED LOOP when using a LS1 operating system on other engines.
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Unless you can tell the PCM which cylinders are BANK 1 and which are BANK 2, its going to be hard to do CLOSED LOOP when using a LS1 operating system on other engines.
EFILive has this covered. Notice the difference between early small block (L31) and gen 3 small block (LS1). Copy/Paste, you're done.

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dang u got me thinking abou doing this to a caddillac 500 ci
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What is the Vortec 454 crank sensor output? 24x?
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I've since scrapped this idea because the class I'll be running now allows FAST systems, but this has really turned into quite an informative thread.
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What is the Vortec 454 crank sensor output? 24x?
4x crank trigger
1x cam trigger

identical to the vortec 5.0/5.7 96-99 or 02? in express vans.
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Hmmm. Interesting thread, probably not something I would've thought of personally, but with the right inputs, it seems like it should work...
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SO What od we like from having this to work?
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im trying to gather info on swapping a ford ecu on an ls1 for a friend of mine at his machine shop... seems as though this thread gave me some valuable intel that just might point me in the right direction

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I have them running Northstar's

I also have the 0411 calibration completely mapped out all 4400 + lines and I edit and or build my own VDF's
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