I went with a LY6 and e38 ECU. My brother just got done wiring mine and it runs flawlessly with the e38. It's an absolute beast and I'll have a thread post about it soon. I went all-out and the total cost of my project wasn't bad at all ($6k including cost of the car).
LY6 has L92 heads stock and VVT... I got mine for $2k and it had 8,000 miles on it. I coupled it with a M12 T56 from a 2004 GTO.
His name on ebay is techrods.
And he's from San Antonio.
He's great to deal with.
Thanks!
Pillagenburn, LY6 is what I want to use but only found 1 on car-part with higher miles than I'd like. I'm looking for other options for L92 topend motors but everything is fairly new and not in salvage yards yet. I was looking yesterday and called to check on one and they called me back 30 min. later and said it was sold that morning, complete for $1.800. Oh well, still doing my research now, checking out S-10forum for info. Thanks guys.
It was over 80k, I'm still looking.
What other vehicles did the LY6's come in?
I did a lot of different searches on car part and only found 1, the high mileage one. I don't seem to be finding them! Is there a chart or something that would list every vehicle that would have the different LS motors in them? Maybe I'm missing them. I'd like to use the LY6, but an L76, (L92 & LS3 6.2L's) would work, rather have the Iron block though. There's an LFA motor that's a higher compression motor, (10.8:1) but is supposedly a hybrid w/ fuel management, and LIVC.
Also, what about these? http://paceperformance.com/index.asp...&ProdID=128739 . I'd like to have adjustablity in the mounts to move fore & aft, up and down a little. I know before doing my SBC swap certain mounts work with certain pans, headers and etc. Since it is a track only truck, I'd like to be able to use solid mounts, so theres another question? Thanks again guys.
the L92 is aluminum... you do get some weight savings there, but it is substantially more expensive.
edit: check for 07 escalades or something like that... also check for GMC trucks, vans and all that.
Yea, I know, I'm just not coming up with a lot of hits on the LY6, and I searched around Texas and Chatt., Tn. area where my family is too. What about the solid mounts and adapters ? I had earlier? I'm not trying to sound redundant here either, sorry!
My next off day is Monday, I'm gonna finish getting the SBC out and go ahead and notch/clearance the x-member and decide on some mounts.My last time swapping in the SBC I ended up buying 2 different sets of mounts to use the headers and starter I needed(wasted $$$). I just want to make sure the mounts are compatible w/ the other componets as well as have a little bit of adjustability built in, suggestions? Thanks again!
searching for a Ly6 cause it already has l92 heads. It only comes in '07-present 2500 and 3500 HD trucks, and probably vans also. Escalades and denalis got the 6.2 l92, silverado 6.0 "MAX" trucks got the L76 aluminum 6.0, both of those are way more expensive. You should be able to grab one with 30-40k for around 1700-1800, thats what i pick them up for in cali. If you can score a lq4 or lq9 for 800-1000 $, pick it up and slap some l92's on it for under $1000, works out the same. You can get L92's already CNC'd with springs from texas speed for under $1400 i think, not a bad deal
Yea, the LY6 is still the route I WANT to go. I'm ripping out the SBC on Monday and try to decide on some mounts that have a little adjustability, and notch the engine cradle/x-member. I just don't want to have to back-up while trying to make progress because of mismatch part and etc. I know I'll save money by getting into the LY6 to begin with, so that's my goal......Thanks again!
Also, since this is the quickest way to go (carbed), will I still need pcm/& full harness? I'm sorry if this question is stupid, I'm lost when it comes to the wiring side here. You stated earler that it's just a few (3) connections and your off. Could you go into a little detail? Thanks.
it would be easier to go with 24x engine like a lq4 since there are so many cams and parts floating around.
a lq4 with strong cam, milled heads, thinner gaskets, vic jr,etc.
u could also use the edelbrock version of the ignition box, it does not require a laptop, it uses ignition curve pills, basically plu and play. need switched 12v source, ground, cam ans crank,map sensors and plug to coils.
it would be easier to go with 24x engine like a lq4 since there are so many cams and parts floating around.
a lq4 with strong cam, milled heads, thinner gaskets, vic jr,etc.
u could also use the edelbrock version of the ignition box, it does not require a laptop, it uses ignition curve pills, basically plu and play. need switched 12v source, ground, cam ans crank,map sensors and plug to coils.
Sounds like it would be easier to go wit hthe edelbrock and 24x. If you don't mind explaining, from what I've read the Msd was the better one to go with as far as tuneability? So, your suggesting the Edelbrock for it's simplicity even though there isn't a lot of options with it's tuning? Not trying to argue, just trying to learn a little, thanks!
Sounds like it would be easier to go wit hthe edelbrock and 24x. If you don't mind explaining, from what I've read the Msd was the better one to go with as far as tuneability? So, your suggesting the Edelbrock for it's simplicity even though there isn't a lot of options with it's tuning? Not trying to argue, just trying to learn a little, thanks!
-SS
it is true that the msd 6ls version offers way more tuning options via a laptop. the edelbrock was the original design made by msd for edelbrock, its still a msd product. it comes with pills each with different ignition curves, u can change the timing just by removing a pill, like the rpm pills found on other msd boxes. although the numerically higher pills have more timing degrees, the numerically lower pills like 1 and 2 have around 25degrees.
this was my original carbed combo.:
04 lq4 bored .060 with replacement pistons and rings +.015 deck
stock rods, crank arp hardware. i machined vr' got my ptv clearance came in at 3cc for both vr
milled unported 243 heads with vj and backcut
cometic .050 compressed gaskets 4.08bore
edelbrock vic jr, edelbrock 6000 box (original version), lq4 coils, pill#2.
holley pro series hp 750cfm carb. 93 octane
TR TREX cam, 110 lsa
self made 1 3/4 lt, 3in.bullet exhaust
built th350, sbc tq conv. 4000 stall, 7k rpm shift point
moser 12 bolt 3.73 gears.
full bmr suspension, pa racing kmember,qa1, in a 82 3rd gen hardtop
the guy who helped me set up the susp. bought the car from me. out the gate, went 10.6, tweaked the susp. and went 10.45 n/a
he is now in the 9's with spray and still has the car.
theres nothing wrong with the original box and works well, but the modern versions like 6ls (24x) and 6ls2 (58x) have more features.
i would use the newer versions if going for full trim psi or n20 motor or had
58x engine
it is true that the msd 6ls version offers way more tuning options via a laptop. the edelbrock was the original design made by msd for edelbrock, its still a msd product. it comes with pills each with different ignition curves, u can change the timing just by removing a pill, like the rpm pills found on other msd boxes. although the numerically higher pills have more timing degrees, the numerically lower pills like 1 and 2 have around 25degrees.
this was my original carbed combo.:
04 lq4 bored .060 with replacement pistons and rings +.015 deck
stock rods, crank arp hardware. i machined vr' got my ptv clearance came in at 3cc for both vr
milled unported 243 heads with vj and backcut
cometic .050 compressed gaskets 4.08bore
edelbrock vic jr, edelbrock 6000 box (original version), lq4 coils, pill#2.
holley pro series hp 750cfm carb. 93 octane
TR TREX cam, 110 lsa
self made 1 3/4 lt, 3in.bullet exhaust
built th350, sbc tq conv. 4000 stall, 7k rpm shift point
moser 12 bolt 3.73 gears.
full bmr suspension, pa racing kmember,qa1, in a 82 3rd gen hardtop
the guy who helped me set up the susp. bought the car from me. out the gate, went 10.6, tweaked the susp. and went 10.45 n/a
he is now in the 9's with spray and still has the car.
theres nothing wrong with the original box and works well, but the modern versions like 6ls (24x) and 6ls2 (58x) have more features.
i would use the newer versions if going for full trim psi or n20 motor or had
58x engine
Alright, good info, thanks. I want to pick your brain on this thing! I'm gonna take a look at the Edelbrock, check it out a little. It sounds like the Edelbrock is the EASIER way, just less tunablity. So, if I am dead set on waiting for an LY6 (58x), is the Edelbrock an option or should I go with the MSD. I guess if I had to, I could swap to a 24x right? I just want to get this right the first time, I should be able to with the experience here. Thanks NemeSS
Alright, good info, thanks. I want to pick your brain on this thing! I'm gonna take a look at the Edelbrock, check it out a little. It sounds like the Edelbrock is the EASIER way, just less tunablity. So, if I am dead set on waiting for an LY6 (58x), is the Edelbrock an option or should I go with the MSD. I guess if I had to, I could swap to a 24x right? I just want to get this right the first time, I should be able to with the experience here. Thanks NemeSS
LQ9chevelle, chime in anytime.
-SS
ly6 is 58x, so u will have to use the 6ls2, cant use the edelbrock or 6ls
the 6ls2 comes with the laptop tuning features. the e-brock is pretty much a setup for the guy who is not too familiar with ignition curves tuning. i learned timing on sbc's with a timing light,so neither box is a prob. for me. its actually way easier with these ls engines.
How about a truck that weighs a good bit less than 3000lbs, with 4.11's? I appreciate it man, hope you don't get pissed when I bug you in the future with questions, thanks. Me too on the SBC's with a timing light, this stuff seems a little confusing sometimes.