My brother has a 08 c6 ls3 A6. All he has done is a hp tune. We were out last night and an 08 Viper GTS pulls up. We B.S. for a while then we decide to go hook them up. Granted he wasn't the best at launching it was a good race. From a 25 mph roll the viper only pulled about 1-2 lengths to 150 mph. Then from a dig they were even to 20 then the vette pulled 1-2 lengths on the viper to 150 mph. I would have to say if the ls3 keeps up with the viper the Zo6 LS7 has to eat its lunch. It was a fun night. Thought I would share with you all.
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I ran my bone stock 2009 LS3 A6 the other night and got a personal best of 12.159@115.59. She only had 1300 miles on her and I am just learning how to drive her. These cars have a lot of power!
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If these LS3s could launch comparable to their 1/4 mph they would be 11 second cars. Many are running close to 120 mph in the 1/4 mile in good air. The problem is torque management pulls out timing to negative at launch. Additionally they come with a very tight converter. They don't reach peak torque at launch until right at 30 mph. As a comparision my 98 Camaro with a PI 3600 stall reached peak torque around 5 mph.
Ya we know the guy. And ya when we tuned the vette we took out all torque management and it was night and day difference. It scratches the tires on the 1-2 and 2-3 shift. My brother ran it once before the tune and it ran a 12.35 @115.3mph @ 2600 ft DA. So at sea level it would be 11's for sure.
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Ya we know the guy. And ya when we tuned the vette we took out all torque management and it was night and day difference. It scratches the tires on the 1-2 and 2-3 shift. My brother ran it once before the tune and it ran a 12.35 @115.3mph @ 2600 ft DA. So at sea level it would be 11's for sure.
Removing TM does not remove launch advance reduction. That has to be tuned out. It does make for some much harder shifts although a little hard on the tires and maybe the tranny and drivetrain.
Ya I know this isn't my first rodeo. We removed all torque reduction tables. Max torque table is set to 700+ ft lbs. AFR is leaned out some. Spark tables modified. The works. I have been tuning with hp for a few years.
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Ya I know this isn't my first rodeo. We removed all torque reduction tables. Max torque table is set to 700+ ft lbs. AFR is leaned out some. Spark tables modified. The works. I have been tuning with hp for a few years.
I believe Larry was trying to be helpful. Lots of tuners new to the E38 PCM are not aware of all the tables that contribute to spark reduction. Your reply was more of a bitch slap than a thank you. Board courtesy can go a long way.
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no bickering fellow LS1techies! it's all good the LS3 really impresses me as much as my LS1 does! I was hoping to look intho a LS3 motor and tranny swap for my WS6 I wonder what the LS3 will do with long tube headers,Xpipe and catback with a 3600-4000 stall??? and then a nice nasty cam?
The LS3 is unbelievable. I added full exhaust, CAI, and a tune and got the same horsepower as my Big Cam, Full Exhaust, CAI, Tune LS2 GTO. Plus I got about 40rwtq more than the LS2.
Plus they are so light! I saw a post where the owner did a few weight reduction mods and the car weighed a little over 3150lbs.
Did not mean any disrespect it was more of a sarcastic statement. Im's sorry if you took offense to my statement. But yes I was aware of all the tables. Yes the LS3's are runners as you can see in my sig I run a 13.1 and my bro pulls me like there is no tomorrow. I love ls based motors, to me it doesn't get any better then these things.
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No such thing as an SRT-10 "GTS". They quit calling them GTS back in Gen II (pre-03).
SRT-10 coupe started in '06. These typically run 11.9-12.1 stock, trap around 118-119 mph. Mostly due to crappy gearing (3.08 ratio) and 3400 lb weight. In 2008, they became 600 hp. These 08+ coupes are running low 11s at 128-129 mph. A stock C6 would get raped by an '08+ Viper in the hands of a decent driver.
I'm betting you ran an '06 coupe, as they perform very close to an LS3 Corvette. Either that, or the Viper driver was a pansy with limp wrists.
I am not sure I believe he said gts but I don't know. It looks just like your sig pic of the viper. I know it is an 08. It said 2008 on his 30 day tag. And he told us it was 600 horse. Also I looked at motortrend and for the 2008 viper 600 horse They only had it at 11.7 @ 125. But who knows. I do know he said his gear ratio was a 2.72. If that helps. I don't know a lot about dodge Sorry. Let me know what you think it was All I know is it was an 08. Thanks
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I am not sure I believe he said gts but I don't know. It looks just like your sig pic of the viper. I know it is an 08. It said 2008 on his 30 day tag. And he told us it was 600 horse. Also I looked at motortrend and for the 2008 viper 600 horse They only had it at 11.7 @ 125. But who knows. I do know he said his gear ratio was a 2.72. If that helps. I don't know a lot about dodge Sorry. Let me know what you think it was All I know is it was an 08. Thanks
I think Vipers come stock with 3.08s.. I don't see why he'd put a 2.72 in there.
Ya I'm not sure what ratio it has. The guy doesn't know to much about it and Yes he was a terrible driver. He also said that it had 600 horse and 600+ torque and it only has like 500+ torque. Is there any way to tell what engine it has? And rear gears? But The vette did kill it off the line. If motortrend only tested it at a 11.7 at sea level and we are at 2500+ ft DA. I could see him only running a 12.2-12.3 here. Plus a bad driver is more like mid to high 12's. His launch style was like a 3k drop and tire smoke. Non the less it was fun.
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Ls3 a little underrated 
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LS3 C6s are no joke. 
