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11-11-2008, 09:48 PM
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#1 | | Staging Lane
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: cincinnati
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| texas speed 408 well, i just got my car back after breaking at the beginning of june...i got a texas speed 408 and am very happy with the results... i ordered...
-408 shortblock
-Eagle LS1 forged crank 4.00 stroke
-Eagle LS1 H beam connecting rods
-Diamond 10cc pistons
-texas giant cam 248/254 .611/.613 112 w/ pushrods
-LS7 lifters
-Fast 92/92
-Im using the heads from my LS1 they Patriot LS6 style heads...59 cc
-compression is 11-11.5 / 1
i along with alot of other people thought that the heads were going to kill me, and not get the numbers i hoped for...which was 500rwhp..
well with a speed density tune..i put down 491-480 
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11-11-2008, 09:57 PM
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#2 | | TECH Apprentice
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| Great numbers. Do you have any vids?
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11-11-2008, 09:59 PM
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#3 | | 12 Second Club
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| Awesome numbers man, And I'm glad you like the setup!
This is a very similar setup to what I will be going with. (The shortblock at least)
Good Job Man.
James
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11-11-2008, 10:05 PM
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#4 | | Staging Lane
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| very nice, as soon as money allows you should get some nice set of heads and get that bad boy at around 550
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11-11-2008, 10:06 PM
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#5 | | TECH Junkie
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| Put some heads on there when you have the money and look out. Nice solid beginning. Do you have a graph ?
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11-11-2008, 10:08 PM
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| nice results
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11-11-2008, 10:31 PM
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#7 | | Staging Lane
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| yeah, i got the car back today, and the graph is in there.I will try and get the graph on here tomorrow.yeah when money allows heads will be done,but im prob gonna do a cage first just so i can still have fun while i save the money for heads,thanks guys i will also try and get some vids up as well
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11-12-2008, 03:06 AM
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#8 | | TECH Apprentice
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| Very nice!
Thinking of maybe a little giggle gas?
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11-12-2008, 08:18 AM
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#9 | | Staging Lane
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| yes down the road after heads and stuff
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11-12-2008, 10:33 AM
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#10 | | TECH Regular
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| Nice numbers. I'm working on something very similar to your set-up. I too am stuck using my Patriot LS6 heads-59cc. My cam is smaller than yours though, since this will be a DD for awhile. Hope I can get my numbers up there with yours.
Mine'll be a 418 though, with the 4.100" Stroke for torque.
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11-12-2008, 12:06 PM
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#11 | | LS1Tech Sponsor
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| Nice results Mr. Martin! Don't sweat the heads too bad, just have fun with what you've got for now and get them when you've got the extra $$ to throw at the combo. Let us know if we can help with ported GM castings, AFR, or TrickFlow heads down the road! 
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11-12-2008, 05:09 PM
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#12 | | Staging Lane
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| definately gonna have fun with it, im not too worried about the heads right now because frankly, 490 rwhp is enough for a street car for me. Its done just it it time for winter though so im pissed haha
__________________ '99 hawk...Texas Speed 408, 248/254 .611 .613 112LSA, Ported Fast 92/92 9'', 4.11 tru trac,linelock, BMR suspenision, spec 3 + patriot LS6 heads 491rwhp 476rwtq now has trans problems |
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11-13-2008, 08:43 AM
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#13 | | On The Tree
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Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed Nice results Mr. Martin! Don't sweat the heads too bad, just have fun with what you've got for now and get them when you've got the extra $$ to throw at the combo. Let us know if we can help with ported GM castings, AFR, or TrickFlow heads down the road!  | how much would trick flow cnc 235 add to the equation here? I am having a 402 built basically same set up with the addittion of the trick flows. |
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11-13-2008, 01:44 PM
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#14 | | Teching In
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| When my motor pops I will be ordering the same setup with prc stage 3 heads same cam and a victor jr. Nice numbers have fun with it.
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11-13-2008, 02:03 PM
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#15 | | TECH Apprentice
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Originally Posted by knappbunch how much would trick flow cnc 235 add to the equation here? I am having a 402 built basically same set up with the addittion of the trick flows. | I would guess close to 550HP/520TQ. That's what kind of numbers I would be looking for if I bought those set of heads!!
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11-13-2008, 05:47 PM
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#16 | | registered user
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| Excellent numbers for the setup! That car's gotta rip!
Like they said, don't sweat the heads for now, enjoy what you've got. Once it gets boring then throw the heads on there and get silly 
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11-13-2008, 10:27 PM
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#17 | | Staging Lane
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Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ Excellent numbers for the setup! That car's gotta rip!
Like they said, don't sweat the heads for now, enjoy what you've got. Once it gets boring then throw the heads on there and get silly  | my thoughts exactly, i dont think im gonna be getting bored anytime soon though
__________________ '99 hawk...Texas Speed 408, 248/254 .611 .613 112LSA, Ported Fast 92/92 9'', 4.11 tru trac,linelock, BMR suspenision, spec 3 + patriot LS6 heads 491rwhp 476rwtq now has trans problems |
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11-14-2008, 11:14 AM
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#18 | | LS1Tech Sponsor
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Originally Posted by knappbunch how much would trick flow cnc 235 add to the equation here? I am having a 402 built basically same set up with the addittion of the trick flows. | Quote:
Originally Posted by GMCHammer I would guess close to 550HP/520TQ. That's what kind of numbers I would be looking for if I bought those set of heads!! |
Picking up 59hp/40ftlbs over the current setup with a head swap??? No chance!
I'd bet it'd be closer to 20/20 or so!
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11-14-2008, 11:28 AM
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#19 | | 11 Second Club
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| Great numbers and with 9inch too Congrats man.
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11-14-2008, 11:47 AM
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#20 | | TECH Apprentice
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Originally Posted by Matt@Texas-Speed Picking up 59hp/40ftlbs over the current setup with a head swap??? No chance!
I'd bet it'd be closer to 20/20 or so! | $2500 for only 20/20! Ouch!
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