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11-13-2008, 10:15 AM
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#1 | | Staging Lane
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|  my ported FAST 90 added 44HP and 23LBS. that's about right, right?
I got a 232/234 590. 590. On a 112 LSA with patriot stage 3 heads(2.5).... went from 396 hp/379Lbs With the stock LS1 intake on there, to 440hp/402 lbs witht the FAST 90/90 w/a NW TB....
these gains are normal right? Any input would help.. Thanks guys
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11-13-2008, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mr. firehawk  I got a 232/234 590. 590. On a 112 LSA with patriot stage 3 heads(2.5).... went from 396 hp/379Lbs With the stock LS1 intake on there, to 440hp/402 lbs witht the FAST 90/90 w/a NW TB....
these gains are normal right? Any input would help.. Thanks guys | i put a ported FAST 9090 and PTM tb on and 410 gears... from the last dyno i has i picked up 35rwhp... dont remember how much tq i picked up...
but i didnt have heads.. if i had heads is would have been closer to 45ish...
i only had stock ls1 heads at the time..
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11-13-2008, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by mr. firehawk I got a 232/234 590. 590. On a 112 LSA with patriot stage 3 heads(2.5).... went from 396 hp/379Lbs With the stock LS1 intake on there, to 440hp/402 lbs witht the FAST 90/90 w/a NW TB....
these gains are normal right? Any input would help.. Thanks guys | Thats why you picked up so much power. A ported FAST setup is a HUGE step over a stock LS 1 intake.
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11-13-2008, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Damian Thats why you picked up so much power. A ported FAST setup is a HUGE step over a stock LS1 intake. | I agree, a stock ls1 intake sucks. Hell I picked up 17 rwhp going from an ls1 intake to my old 78 mm FAST. Then picked up another 17 rwhp + going to the new ported 90 mm FAST. My latest intake (ported 92mm FAST) is from Ron at Vengeance Racing. He ported it and opened the inlet to work with a 95 mm tb knowing I was going to using it on my new ls2 based 402.
44 rwhp gain is pretty substantial though. 
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11-13-2008, 02:39 PM
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Very nice! What is the normal gain for a Ported FAST over a ported LS2? I'd guess about 20rwhp. | |
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11-13-2008, 02:44 PM
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Do you happen to have a before/after graph ??
A gain like this must be mainly in the upper RPMS, but I'd be curious to see how the ls1 intake graph looked compared to the graph with the ported 90. Did the place that did the install/tuning baseline your car, and is it the same dyno you used to get the 396 rwhp with the ls1 intake. Just trying to clarify how accurate your claim is. SAE or STD numbers ?? Post a graph, enquiring minds want to know.
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11-13-2008, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5 I agree, a stock ls1 intake sucks. Hell I picked up 17 rwhp going from an ls1 intake to my old 78 mm FAST. Then picked up another 17 rwhp + going to the new ported 90 mm FAST. My latest intake (ported 92mm FAST) is from Ron at Vengeance Racing. He ported it and opened the inlet to work with a 95 mm tb knowing I was going to using it on my new ls2 based 402.
44 rwhp gain is pretty substantial though. |
sweetness. good to hear. cant wait 
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11-13-2008, 03:15 PM
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wow, someone gained more than me, though i gained 35rwhp/10rwtq over the Ls6 intake when i swapped for my ported 90/90, Patriot Stage II heads, and comp 224 .581 112lsa...
the OP probably gained that much since he's using heads that are marketed for 6.0L or larger displacement engines (not stocked-cubed Ls1's), plus the fact anything is an improvement over the Ls1 intake, plus who knows how nailed down the previous tune was as well...
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11-13-2008, 05:39 PM
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Very solid gains!
Just out of curiousity, does anyone know how the carb style intakes do with fuel injection and an elbow with throttle body on a mild setup? My buddy keeps talking about doing that kind of setup, but I've never seen any numbers for them on a mild (cam only) setup.
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11-13-2008, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5 Do you happen to have a before/after graph ??
A gain like this must be mainly in the upper RPMS, but I'd be curious to see how the ls1 intake graph looked compared to the graph with the ported 90. Did the place that did the install/tuning baseline your car, and is it the same dyno you used to get the 396 rwhp with the ls1 intake. Just trying to clarify how accurate your claim is. SAE or STD numbers ?? Post a graph, enquiring minds want to know. |
Well do you ??
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11-13-2008, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5 Well do you ?? | +1 on the dyno graph!!!
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11-13-2008, 06:39 PM
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#12 | | Staging Lane
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Ill post tonight when I get off of work
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11-13-2008, 07:11 PM
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ive got mine somewhere too... i have the after graph right here... but i will have the find the before graph...
had stock ls1 heads on both pulls... ms4... went from ls1 to ported 9090..
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11-13-2008, 08:19 PM
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#14 | | On The Tree
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post up, im definately interested. how do you like your msf? what gears are you running?
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11-13-2008, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Spectre86 post up, im definately interested. how do you like your msf? what gears are you running? | me????
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11-13-2008, 09:01 PM
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Nice gain! Congrats.
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11-13-2008, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mr. firehawk Ill post tonight when I get off of work | That would be cool bro. I really can't wait to see the difference. Most people open up there stock motors with a cam, or a cam and an intake, and then add heads last. Not you, you opened up your motor with a bigger cam and better flowing heads. The fact that you added a ported 90 last and coming from a crappy ls1, the graph will show exactly where to expect gains by improving air through the intake. Glad to see someone not follow the recipe.
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11-13-2008, 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5 That would be cool bro. I really can't wait to see the difference. Most people open up there stock motors with a cam, or a cam and an intake, and then add heads last. Not you, you opened up your motor with a bigger cam and better flowing heads. The fact that you added a ported 90 last and coming from a crappy ls1, the graph will show exactly where to expect gains by improving air through the intake. Glad to see someone not follow the recipe. | most people do it because the ls1 intake is the worse of the 2.. and heads are excess of 1500 usually
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11-14-2008, 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by allngn_c5 That would be cool bro. I really can't wait to see the difference. Most people open up there stock motors with a cam, or a cam and an intake, and then add heads last. Not you, you opened up your motor with a bigger cam and better flowing heads. The fact that you added a ported 90 last and coming from a crappy ls1, the graph will show exactly where to expect gains by improving air through the intake. Glad to see someone not follow the recipe. | Haha thanks... and yea, I have always stood out.... jus like @ the kandy paint
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11-14-2008, 01:28 AM
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It right considering that ls1 intake was choking up the potential of airflow thru those patriot heads.
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