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Old 08-17-2007, 12:26 PM   #1
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Default TSP 5.3stg2.5, MS3 / VENGEANCE ported FAST, Graph inside!!!

My new set-up is done, FINALY! Here's my new result:
STD 486.3 rwhp 415.3 rwtq
SAE 473.7 rwhp 404.6 rwtq
this is to a Moser 9inch with 4.11 and dual open cut-out.
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I whant to say thanks to you guys at TSP and to Ron at Vengeance Racing
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nice numbers!
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u say a TSP tune...is that a mail order tune or did u actually go down there and get a dyno tune?
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great numbers, cant wait to see some track times!
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u say a TSP tune...is that a mail order tune or did u actually go down there and get a dyno tune?
It's a mail order.
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great numbers, cant wait to see some track times!
I already run last tuesday 11.47 @ 125.753 with traction issue in second gear! I hop the track will be better tonight
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Alex what is your compression ??

I'd like to see you making more torque, but then I realized that the MOSER 9" is eating up some of your dyno numbers.

Congrats on the outcome, and looks like RON at Vengeance did a good job porting the FAST. Keep us updated.
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Alex what is your compression ??

I'd like to see you making more torque, but then I realized that the MOSER 9" is eating up some of your dyno numbers.

Congrats on the outcome, and looks like RON at Vengeance did a good job porting the FAST. Keep us updated.
10.75:1 , no fly-cut, TSP make the heads fit for my cam.The intake was amasing, very nice porting and nice guy to deal with!
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Nice buildup. Those are fantastic numbers on a mailorder tune!

How many miles are on the stock shortblock? Did you upgrade the rod bolts?
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Is the graph off a bit or is it me? Shouldn't we be crossing at 5250?
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something's wayy fishy about this one. Thats ridiculous power for PRC heads on a stock bottom end. Especially being mailorder tuned. The graph should always cross at 5252 too.

Sorry, but im not buying it. Not saying your lying, just saying that something doesnt add up. Perhaps a dyno error
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10.75:1 , no fly-cut, TSP make the heads fit for my cam.The intake was amasing, very nice porting and nice guy to deal with!

How about the DCR ??

I was going to suggest milling those heads and getting some extra rw Hp/TQ out of them. The extra compression really helped my engine make extra power.

Any considerations about getting a Meziere EWP, or U/d Pully ??

Between Milling, ewp, and ud pully I would expect to see your car come close to 500 rwhp.
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I think you are seeing the the difference due to the graph being scaled differently on each side between the hp and tq.

PRC heads have consistently been making this kind of power. NUMEROUS cars have been going 470+ RWHP with PRC 5.3, LS6, and Terminator heads. Their graphs can be seen throughout this section! I sold him everything. The heads are out of the box Stg. 2.5 5.3 heads that are unmilled. Off-the-shelf MS3 camshaft as well with a mail-order tune that judging by the graph could pick up more power with some touching up (that's why we offer free retunes). I would say the car made great numbers. With flycut pistons and decking the heads, the car would have a VERY realistic shot of going 500 RWHP!

Alex, awesome numbers man! I'm sure the car is a beast. Get that clutch lined out and think about shooting us the PCM back to make some changes to when the weather cools off! Enjoy!

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something's wayy fishy about this one. Thats ridiculous power for PRC heads on a stock bottom end. Especially being mailorder tuned. The graph should always cross at 5252 too.

Sorry, but im not buying it. Not saying your lying, just saying that something doesnt add up. Perhaps a dyno error
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something's wayy fishy about this one. Thats ridiculous power for PRC heads on a stock bottom end. Especially being mailorder tuned. The graph should always cross at 5252 too.

Sorry, but im not buying it. Not saying your lying, just saying that something doesnt add up. Perhaps a dyno error
Graphs will never cross at 5252 unless the scaling is equal on both sides, in which this case its not. Nothing out of the ordinary, looks legit to me.

I will say the torque looks a little lazy down low, could be the tune or the subpar DCR.
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How about the DCR ??

I was going to suggest milling those heads and getting some extra rw Hp/TQ out of them. The extra compression really helped my engine make extra power.

Any considerations about getting a Meziere EWP, or U/d Pully ??

Between Milling, ewp, and ud pully I would expect to see your car come close to 500 rwhp.
Do you have any track numbers for your car?

BTW looks as if he has the ASP UDP already. His DCR is not that good, according to the calculator is around the 7.8 ballpark which leaves a lot on the table with some milling or the heads. He would have to flycut then but milling to 59cc would bring it up to almost 8.2 DCR and a lot more area under the curve.
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Nice buildup. Those are fantastic numbers on a mailorder tune!

How many miles are on the stock shortblock? Did you upgrade the rod bolts?
It's a 15,000 mile, LS6 block with stock rod bolt no upgrade.
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Alex, awesome numbers man! I'm sure the car is a beast. Get that clutch lined out and think about shooting us the PCM back to make some changes to when the weather cools off! Enjoy!

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Thanks Jon, I will let you know soon for the new clutch and the PCM!
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How about the DCR ??

I was going to suggest milling those heads and getting some extra rw Hp/TQ out of them. The extra compression really helped my engine make extra power.

Any considerations about getting a Meziere EWP, or U/d Pully ??

Between Milling, ewp, and ud pully I would expect to see your car come close to 500 rwhp.
Thanks for the input, I will buy a EWP after my clutch.
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Do you have any track numbers for your car?
I already run last tuesday 11.47 @ 125.753 with traction issue in second gear!
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Nice numbers,same combo here except non ported fast,gonna get it ported over the winter.i have gone 124 in a4 at about 3300lbs.When you get it to hook your gonna be in the 10s easy.
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