Someone feel free to correct me but this 350Z vs 370Z thing went on forever on the my350z forums and the 370Z was actually heavier than the 350Z according to them. So it gained power but also gained some weight. So far I have only heard of one 370Z running near or better than the old 350Z HR record (13.1 @ 107mph for the 350Z).
Nice Kill!! Still waiting to bump into one of these.
Someone feel free to correct me but this 350Z vs 370Z thing went on forever on the my350z forums and the 370Z was actually heavier than the 350Z according to them. So it gained power but also gained some weight. So far I have only heard of one 370Z running near or better than the old 350Z HR record (13.1 @ 107mph for the 350Z).
The 370Z weighs about the same as an 03-04 350Z...its lighter then the 07-08 HR 350Zs....the weight difference is small...some will say it weighs less others will say their the same either way your arguing about a difference of around 50lbs. The average trap speeds of the 370Zs vs. the average trap speeds of the 07-08 HR 350Zs shows the 370Z is averaging around 2-3MPH higher in the 1/4...its clearly a faster car. It won't be long before someone squeeks a high 12 out of a bone stock 370Z...their about identical in straight line performance to a stock LS1.
The 370Z weighs about the same as an 03-04 350Z...its lighter then the 07-08 HR 350Zs....the weight difference is small...some will say it weighs less others will say their the same either way your arguing about a difference of around 50lbs. The average trap speeds of the 370Zs vs. the average trap speeds of the 07-08 HR 350Zs shows the 370Z is averaging around 2-3MPH higher in the 1/4...its clearly a faster car. It won't be long before someone squeeks a high 12 out of a bone stock 370Z...their about identical in straight line performance to a stock LS1.
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at the time of the race I had a broken transmission mount and crappy tires. thats been fixed now and hes getting an UD pully so we will see what happens. I expect to kick his ass even worse.
FTRA would help you pull harder, especially up top compared to a UD pulley. Same price for both, about $200
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The 370Z weighs about the same as an 03-04 350Z...its lighter then the 07-08 HR 350Zs....the weight difference is small...some will say it weighs less others will say their the same either way your arguing about a difference of around 50lbs. The average trap speeds of the 370Zs vs. the average trap speeds of the 07-08 HR 350Zs shows the 370Z is averaging around 2-3MPH higher in the 1/4...its clearly a faster car. It won't be long before someone squeeks a high 12 out of a bone stock 370Z...their about identical in straight line performance to a stock LS1.
Not identical... "about." The 370Zs fall right between 5spd Mach 1s and 6spd LS1s as far as 1/4 mile ETs and trapspeeds.
Looks like that full bolt on 370Z got raped pretty bad by that bolt on LS1 F-body to me. I wouldn't call that race "close" or "about" the same. There were no fenderlenghts being counted, more like buslenghts. And remember, the Camaro had 400lbs of extra people in the car.
I was talking about stock cars. I (and basically everyone else in this thread) said that when it comes to mods, the LS1 of course has the edge. Stock they are very close, the 370Z will generally win if it has bolt-ons and the LS1 is stock, and mod for mod the LS1 will most always comes out on top. Stop trying to turn what I'm saying around to try and fit what you think I mean.
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Yea cause your 8.40's are fast. I've touched mid 8's on a stock 07.
lol im not really talking about quarter mile times actually. i was kinda talking about how the car drives. i would much rather have an 8.40 car that puts u in the seat driving around town without even dropping a gear. i mean my grand prix would start pulling at like 2500 rpms lol. i just cant see the fun in having to rev the piss out of a motor just for a little get up and go.
but really all of that is opinion lol.
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its been a while since i checked this out so i got a couple things to say:
1st whats an FTRA? what do you mean by that, also im not planning on getting an UD pully, the 370z guy is the one getting one, but now it looks like he wont since hes read up on alot of problems it causes on his car.
2nd how is a well driven C6 just "keeping up" with a 370z?!?!?! if the new camaro SS BEAT the 370z Nismo around Laguna Seca,(look it up, Motor Trend Best Drivers Car 2009, Camaro SS did 105sec the Nismo 370Z did 106sec) then what do you think a C6 would do to the 370z.
3rd I dont think anyone would be able to get into the high 12 on a 370z unless they are not using stock rubber, but completely stock i dont think so.
Finally im looking for someone who has a Stock LS1 manual 6 that could run this kid, to see how it measures up...so if anyone has a stock one around south florida, particularly around Miramar let me know
its been a while since i checked this out so i got a couple things to say: 1st whats an FTRA? what do you mean by that, also im not planning on getting an UD pully, the 370z guy is the one getting one, but now it looks like he wont since hes read up on alot of problems it causes on his car.
2nd how is a well driven C6 just "keeping up" with a 370z?!?!?! if the new camaro SS BEAT the 370z Nismo around Laguna Seca,(look it up, Motor Trend Best Drivers Car 2009, Camaro SS did 105sec the Nismo 370Z did 106sec) then what do you think a C6 would do to the 370z.
3rd I dont think anyone would be able to get into the high 12 on a 370z unless they are not using stock rubber, but completely stock i dont think so.
Finally im looking for someone who has a Stock LS1 manual 6 that could run this kid, to see how it measures up...so if anyone has a stock one around south florida, particularly around Miramar let me know
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lol im not really talking about quarter mile times actually. i was kinda talking about how the car drives. i would much rather have an 8.40 car that puts u in the seat driving around town without even dropping a gear. i mean my grand prix would start pulling at like 2500 rpms lol. i just cant see the fun in having to rev the piss out of a motor just for a little get up and go.
but really all of that is opinion lol.
I feel ya man, I love low-end torque as well. And when it comes to LS1s, you can't really make the argument that they sacrifice top-end power for torque. But cars that LIKE to rev can be really fun as well. It's kinda like riding a 600cc sportbike. Getting around town doesn't require you to rev TOO much, but you can really wind it out if you want and it will do it willingly.
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3rd I dont think anyone would be able to get into the high 12 on a 370z unless they are not using stock rubber, but completely stock i dont think so.
All we can do is wait and see
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I was talking about stock cars. I (and basically everyone else in this thread) said that when it comes to mods, the LS1 of course has the edge. Stock they are very close, the 370Z will generally win if it has bolt-ons and the LS1 is stock, and mod for mod the LS1 will most always comes out on top. Stop trying to turn what I'm saying around to try and fit what you think I mean.
X2. Neither car in the video was stock so it can't be used in a stock vs stock argument.
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First and foremost i was a my350Z board guy for a few years..My screen name was vettesAreBetter..As I owned a 04 Vette at the time and would constantly school these clowns on how much faster a LS1 is than a 350Z..
When I left the board in 2006...The record for a bone stock C5 was 12.6 at 112 mph..The record for a bone stock LS1 camaro was 12.8 at 110 mph..The record for a bone stock 350Z was 13.5 at 106 mph....No way someone got a stock 350Z to touch 13.1...Dose hopped up versions of the 350Z were mostly aestetic/suspension...
I do beleave that the new 370Z will touch a 13.0 at 109 mph bone stock...Makeing it a very impressive car..Especially for a jap car...
But even more impressive is this...Ive been lucky and been blessed to own some awesome sports cars...98 camaro/04 vette/99 Viper/03 Viper/91 nsx.....
BUT WHEN I SAW A 370Z THE OTHER DAY MY JAW DROPPED.....I HAD TO REMIND MY SELF THAT THIS 35K CAR IS FAR INFERIOR TO THE 50-85 K VETT/VIPER/NSX I HAVE OWNED....But no matter how I tried to justify how it's just a 370Z...
I COULDNT GET OVER HOW BEAUTIFUL THE CAR LOOKED....It seriously looked a lot like a Audi R8 to me....
Now Im not gonna go out and buy one or anything...But man oh man if I was a 20 year old kid who just started making decent money this would defiently be that car I would lust over....47K base for a Vette is just too expensive..But 30K base for the 370Z is a awesome deal....
Good Kill OP...Looked like a pretty easy win for the maro....I will just never stopp being impressed with the LS1....That engine came out in late 1996 for the 1997 Vettes..So the LS1 was available 13 YEARS ago...And it's still kicking ass against brand new cars
This is why you have not heard of any 350Zs running better then a mid 13. The HR 350Zs didnt come out until 07 and are noticeably quicker then the pre 07 350Zs.
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..No way someone got a stock 350Z to touch 13.1...
Its definitely not the norm but a few HR 350Zs have ran 13.1s and 13.2s bone stock....
Eventually someone will pull a 12.8/12.9 out of a bone stock 370Z I can assure you that...they are nearly identical to an LS1 stock vs stock in the straight line. If that major automotive magazines can pull a 13.1 out of a stock automatic 370Z then without a doubt someone can pull a high 12 out of one...
Well..Their are always gonna be fast tracks I suppose....Here in Hawaii the fastest 350Z ran a 14.0..All the others were 14.1-14.4...Maybey just a tad quicker than the SRT4's...
How the record went from 13.5 to 13.1 is very hard to swallow..AS I dont remember the HR or what ever version really being any differant than the reg 350Z other then BS stuff..Actually if anything it looked less arodynamic..
the new camaro SS BEAT the 370z Nismo around Laguna Seca,(look it up, Motor Trend Best Drivers Car 2009, Camaro SS did 105sec the Nismo 370Z did 106sec) then what do you think a C6 would do to the 370z.
3rd I dont think anyone would be able to get into the high 12 on a 370z unless they are not using stock rubber, but completely stock i dont think so.
I was surprised it didn't beat the Camaro around LS. I have two theories about that:
1. The gearing of the Camaro was more conducive the long 60-100mph straights at LS.
2. The 370 tended to drift a lot. I wonder if it was an alignment away from 1-2 second better time?
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When I left the board in 2006...The record for a bone stock C5 was 12.6 at 112 mph..The record for a bone stock LS1 camaro was 12.8 at 110 mph..
I do beleave that the new 370Z will touch a 13.0 at 109 mph bone stock...Makeing it a very impressive car..Especially for a jap car...
This caught my attention.
The 112mph C5 was undoubtably an FRC?
I would like to see proof of a 110mph stock LS1. To my knowledge, it's 109mph.
If the 370Z can trap 109mph and the automatic did 108mph in C&D, all it takes is a low 1.9x 60ft for a 12sec run...
