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Old 11-07-2009, 02:44 AM   #101
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Hes talking about the new SS Camaro that only has a N/A LS3 in it making about 430 hp at the crank. There is no Camaro offered ever to my knowledge with FI on it.
Sorry thought they had a supercharger. Sorry for that.
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Old 11-07-2009, 02:46 AM   #102
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Wow your jokeing about the gen4 Vipers right??????

The bad drivers have been running 11.6-11.9 at 126-127 mph in them...The decent drivers have been running 11.4-11.7 at 128-129 mph...The good drivers have been running 11.1-11.4 at 129-130 mph...

The fastest was a 10.92 at 129.83 set by Jamie furman..beating out the C6Z06 by nerarly a tenth...

The 11.5 your referring to was set by Viper Jim in a gen3 Viper..These are the 500 HP Vipers from 2003-2006...They average high 11's to low 12's...But two people have managed 11.5 in the gen3's and quite a few 11.6's have been acomplished...

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Ok makes sense. Thanks for clarifying that.
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Sorry thought they had a supercharger. Sorry for that.
NP just clarifying.
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Disregard the fact that it has 100 more hp. That carries a car very far. But even with that disadvantage the Z only lost by a second. The Camaro has more displacement and is only 1 sec faster. Hm what's the better buy?
the better buy is the Camaro SS, why you ask, cause its was priced at 32k as tested in that article and the Nismo 370z was priced 40K as tested. Why would anyone buy the 370z, which has a higher base price than the Camaro SS? i think its just stupid. and like other people said here before, with that money you could get a lightly used C6 Vette. personally i think the 370z is simply not as good as the new camaro SS. 370z costs more and has less standard features than the SS. the SS gets Brembo 14" brakes standard, the 370z does not. and I just love the fact that the SS beat teh Nismo at its own game. so what it if has 100 more horses, that just makes the Nismo look pointless! why get the Nismo when you could get the car with 100more horse power for less?!?!?!
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So in your opinion there is absolutely no reason anybody would get a 370Z instead of a Camaro? Some people like driving cars that aren't ~3,900lbs, and some people like actual sports cars. So I imagine some of those people might get a 370Z over a Camaro SS.
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You put your location as NJ/Japan. Well, wich is it? You sound like some tool that wishes he was in Japan, hence the weaboo comment. Or atleast I assume this because you're coming off as a serious troll. Correct me if I'm wrong...
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So in your opinion there is absolutely no reason anybody would get a 370Z instead of a Camaro? Some people like driving cars that aren't ~3,900lbs, and some people like actual sports cars. So I imagine some of those people might get a 370Z over a Camaro SS.
So your logic is the 370Z is slower than the SS but more of a sports car!??
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So your logic is the 370Z is slower than the SS but more of a sports car!??
The 370Z is definitely more of a sports car. And its not much slower in straight line speeds stock vs. stock...remember the 370Z runs about the same times as a stock LS1 does...
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The 370Z is definitely more of a sports car. And its not much slower in straight line speeds stock vs. stock...remember the 370Z runs about the same times as a stock LS1 does...

2010 370z car v. 1999 LS1 car.....all those years and LS1 is still about equal in straight line. Nuff' said....
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2010 370z car v. 1999 LS1 car.....all those years and LS1 is still about equal in straight line. Nuff' said....
And you're point? The Z never was meant to be a drag car...their sports cars. And i'm willing to bet a stock 370Z would pull a pre 2000 LS1...
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Ricers will lie about mods and times to make themselves look good, thats a known fact. And there is no reason to believe those cars were stock, I'm sure they at least had DR's.
Ever hang out on a vette site? They lie about mods all the time. "Stock" on a vette forum means CAI and drag radials.

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Most stock LS1's with a decent driver (fbody not GTO) will do 108-109..
I'd say that 108-109 is more in line with a great driver in great weather. A decent driver on an average day will see less trap speed than that more times than not. I realize that the best ever LS1 numbers are better than the best ever 2007+ 350Z numbers, but they are close enough to make it a good race.
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So your logic is the 370Z is slower than the SS but more of a sports car!??
Well apparently you don't know what a sports car is. A Miata is more of a sports car than the Camaro SS.
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2010 370z car v. 1999 LS1 car.....all those years and LS1 is still about equal in straight line. Nuff' said....
It's funny you make that comparison considering the 2010 Camaro is about equal to a 1999 LS1 in a straight line as well.
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A 2010 camaro will wax a 1998 camaro...A LS1 camaro on an average day with an average drive is a 13.5 at 106 mph car....A 2010 camaro on a average day with an average driver is a 13.1 at 110 mph car ( equal to a 2003 Cobra comes to mind) It will wax the LS1 camaro....

In great weather at atco with ranger driving your talking 12.99 at 110 for the 98 camaro and 12.59 at 114 for the 2010 camro...

No comparison...If youve ever been to the strip and seen how fast a car that trapps 4 mph higher than you will pull away then you know what Im sayin...

As far as the sports car statement....A C6Z06 is much more of a sports car than a M3...But I bet you'll see more M3 drivers pushing the limits than C6Z06 drivers...The car is what ever the owner decides to make out of it...

With that said I was at a club last night and say my first SS camaro..It was orange and HOLY MOTHER OF GOD that thing was an attention getter..And the exhaust note was superb....If you really can get one of those with 400 HP for only 32K then Id be all over it....Seems like they really run high 12's as well...So good deal all around..
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In great weather at atco with ranger driving your talking 12.99 at 110 for the 98 camaro and 12.59 at 114 for the 2010 camro...
Just out of curiosity, is that the actual record for a 2010 SS?
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Just out of curiosity, is that the actual record for a 2010 SS?
Top 5 that I am aware of....

1. Pave1 - 12.86 @ 107.70 mph, (L99, A6)
2. speedy6963 - 12.87 @ 109.08, (LS3, M6)
3. 8ty8 ls1 - 12.90 @ 107.90 mph, (L99, A6), (DA -822)
4. nhra stocker - 12.92 @ 109.02, (LS3, M6)
5. NineBall - 13.07 @ 109.07 mph, (LS3, M6)


These things are going to be running 10s bone stock @ 190mph if the trend continues. LMAO
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You put your location as NJ/Japan. Well, wich is it? You sound like some tool that wishes he was in Japan, hence the weaboo comment. Or atleast I assume this because you're coming off as a serious troll. Correct me if I'm wrong...
I am definitely military and am stationed in Japan but my Z resides in NJ.
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2010 370z car v. 1999 LS1 car.....all those years and LS1 is still about equal in straight line. Nuff' said....
Straightline is not what our cars are about. They are built for the track.
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the better buy is the Camaro SS, why you ask, cause its was priced at 32k as tested in that article and the Nismo 370z was priced 40K as tested. Why would anyone buy the 370z, which has a higher base price than the Camaro SS? i think its just stupid. and like other people said here before, with that money you could get a lightly used C6 Vette. personally i think the 370z is simply not as good as the new camaro SS. 370z costs more and has less standard features than the SS. the SS gets Brembo 14" brakes standard, the 370z does not. and I just love the fact that the SS beat teh Nismo at its own game. so what it if has 100 more horses, that just makes the Nismo look pointless! why get the Nismo when you could get the car with 100more horse power for less?!?!?!
The Nismo doesn't out brake the regular 370Z. The SS comes with what the Z does standard. 14" Nissan brakes. Also the Nismo is more of a pure sports car for the buyer who doesn't want to buy a less reliable Vette. (IMHO). I had the opportunity to buy a Z or a Z06. I chose my Z not because of less power, but because I know I can rely on my Z to drive. Plus on the Test Drive the Z06 had some check engine light on at 22k miles.

You all are getting into this whole drag game and forgetting what pure driving is all about. Hang out with the faster Porsche guys to learn what it is.
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Straightline is not what our cars are about. They are built for the track.
is that why the nismo 350z has such bad brake fade the pedal goes right to the floor after a couple laps? cause it's a track car?
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