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Old 10-19-2008, 06:42 AM   #1
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What are you guys running for fuel in those 1600+ hp setups?

I'm considering building another setup with one of those spinny things that sits under the hood

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Type of fuel or fuel setup?? Very open ended question
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no, I mean the actual fuel itself. What is it, C16, etc.etc.etc.

I know what I would need for a fuel system. 160 lb injectors, -12 or -10 feed line, -8 return, at least 2 of the biggest aeromotive pumps, or 2 of the BIG magnafuel ones, or a belt driven one, I'm more intrested in what's going in the tank.
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I don't know about these guys specifically, but C16 is a good choice.
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Q16 is what quite a few have been using......
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C16 is good fuel, I'm just wondering if with big FI setups it's like big nitrous setups, the guys running relaly big nitrous setups are running C23 fuel, but guys with smaller setups like what I'm doing are running C16.

I'm also running what I have left of the good Torco 118Nos blend fuel. Not because I need the 118, but becasue I can get it, and it's an added safety margin in case something goes wrong.
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I'm not worthy but Q16.
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Sorry Phil I forgot to ask you.

Thank you for the input. sounds like the regular 116 types of fuel are fine, nothing exotic needed.
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Q16 + 160 lb injectors is what they are all most likely running (including Phil).
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C16, 170's, belt driven aeromotive.
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Matt,

You guys even tried Q16..... i was reading an article on my last flight and they were comparing it Alcohol..... in the end said Q16 bwas better...
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intresting question , i would also like to know what type of pump(s) are you guys using .
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Thanks guys. Right now alcohol was something I was considering, still is.
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The fastest guys in the world on 10.5W's run C16. I have heard good things about
Q16 though. Just relaying what I know about the big dogs running turbos.
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Q16 is the relatively new kid on the block. Its more oxygenated than C16, and it is more consistent. Power numbers from more than one source are up 4-6%.
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Q16 won't pass the fuel check in alot of series. NMCA for one.

We've never bothered to try it.
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Sounds like regular C16 is fine for a turbo setup then.

What about a big procharger setup, like an F2 or an F3? I was seriously thinking about a big head unit and a blow thru carb on alky, no intercooler, make things really simple (less parts = less problems) But, I think that I have to keep the car EFI to do the racing I want to do, not sure if alky and EFI will play nice together, and I knwo I need about double the amount of fuel too, not sure where the injectors would run out, and I don't know if the injectors would have the same intercooling effect as the carb would.

I know that Chris Urchako (probably killed his name, sorry Chris) does alot of blow thru type setups, I probably need to talk to him about it.
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Anyone tried running e85 or e98? Any gains or problems that you've ran into??? Thanks in advance and hopefully this isn't considered a thread hi-jack...
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I tested back to back Q16 and C16 today, and it was worth about 30 rwhp at the 1000~ hp mark. It also did indeed lean it out almost a full point and a half. It was 10.2-4 on C, and 117-12.2 on Q, FYI.

The combo isnt being pushed to the limit, so those of you that do have the combos to push the fuel to the limit, Q is better. It gets really happy at .87-.89. I also wouldnt equate La to 14.7, because there is no way Q is stoich at 14.7, more like 14.0.
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