Jeff,
You're not going to "win" this by sending your little in to praise your product. This one's on you. Fix the problems and put up the numbers. On the track, on the dyno. Either one may suffice. Not with your 100 thousand dollar car but with your off the shelf units that your customers are going to get.
__________________ HKE Iron 403, Callies and Wiseco, AFR225's, A&A Vortech Ysi, custom cam, ram air intercooler, 8-rib pulleys and fuel system, LS2 intake and throttle body, 79lb injectors, ECS alky control, Innovators West O.D. pulley, Dynatech Headers, B&B exhaust, Innovate XD-16, HPtuners Pro, Textralia Exo-Triple, 08Z T6060&Diff, Lingenfelter mini-tub kit. Assembled, installed and tuned by yours truly.
911rwhp with the old heads. Looking to take it up a notch with the new AFR's. #'s coming soon.
Two things to start with one, Jeff had talked to me about the meth setup "you" came up with, months before you even started it and i know he said something to you about it as well and all the sudden you made some huge meth instant hit??? NO you didnt, and no matter what product you buy a&a,ecs, ttix you will fuck it up and probly lose more of your friends in the process... 2, i was on the phone with him the day that shit happend in the plane with the fuel pump.... So maybe you should get your story straight
Let's all get this straight. You were on the phone with Jeff and he's discussing other customers' business with you? How unprofessional is that?
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Originally Posted by Mike75356
And in the above bold, your prove just how silly and fake you and your fan boys really are. LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT.... You called kb and was told that a blower that has made 1000-1200 rwhp on other cars was only capable of flowing a 1000cfm ya that makes sense.
He calls about a Corvette kit and gets answers. Your attempt to defend it is how much the blower makes on other cars?? Are you seriously that stupid??
__________________ HKE Iron 403, Callies and Wiseco, AFR225's, A&A Vortech Ysi, custom cam, ram air intercooler, 8-rib pulleys and fuel system, LS2 intake and throttle body, 79lb injectors, ECS alky control, Innovators West O.D. pulley, Dynatech Headers, B&B exhaust, Innovate XD-16, HPtuners Pro, Textralia Exo-Triple, 08Z T6060&Diff, Lingenfelter mini-tub kit. Assembled, installed and tuned by yours truly.
911rwhp with the old heads. Looking to take it up a notch with the new AFR's. #'s coming soon.
Last edited by BLOWNBLUEZ06; 07-06-2009 at 07:27 AM..
We're all well aware that people blow their motors in pursuit of horsepower. The problem arises when you are trying to make the big#'s, put the heat pump on, make 500rwhp, blow it up in a few weeks and then go preaching about great it is.
For 100k, that car had better run! That's a fact, but when people want to know what they can expect for their simple, forged 408 from the off-the-shelf version of this blower, they deserve to know. We will soon find out what 100 thousand dollars will get you. If it makes 1200rwhp, it should. If it makes 900rwhp, then we have a problem. The pressure is on.
What most people want to know is what they can do on a reasonable budget. That's not a reasonable budget! What's your budget grandpa? Tell us all how much you think it's going to cost you to make that 1000rwhp. The joke's on you!!!
Respect is earned and if you act like an idiot regardless of your position in life, you deserve to be called on it. I will admit that he gets points from me for being a Marine though. Just like for you, I simply offer him no sympathy for buying a blower and talking a big game before proving it. That just makes you an e-warrior and an idiot. You can't even go searching with Google to find a remotely impressive KB on a Corvette. As I have said in the past, maybe that will change, but I am talking about the here and the now. Right here and now, they're still working on it. That means no impressive KB's out there. Are you going to be the first? Well put your cane down and gitter' done old man!
You come in here and have the nerve to try and insult your way out of having a non-running POS car for the last 6+ months after telling everyone you are going to make 1000rwhp. That makes you the E-bitch, hypocrite, idiot of the month!!
There are many in this world with big dreams. Lets take you for instance:
Ok folks, again we have a situation where someone speaks whom has less experience (so far) than I do (and I don't have much experience with it, but enough to know where this product stands). A stupid old man that likes to talk trash about how his car is going to make 1000rwhp while telling others with actual running cars how theirs is a slow piece of junk. He has been hiding from the Corvette Forum because either he failed so miserably that he can't bear to show his Stainless40Cal name and poor results on the boards or yet another UPS truck has burned down my friends and he still doesn't have it together. Let's hurry and sell our UPS stock, because this company's burning at an alarming rate!!
I have youtube race videos of my car on the track, dyno videos and a few street. I don't claim to be the fastest and never will. That's never been my goal. What do you have other than a big E-mouth, a bad attitude, a non-running POS Corvette with a heat pump going on it and the beginnings of alzheimers? This guy sits here and runs his mouth about someone being an "internet bitch" without having his car together yet talking trash to many. I told you once and I'll tell you again old man, SHOW ME don't tell me.
I personally assembled my engine from the shortblock up, installed it, tuned it, modified the car for a T6060 and 08Z06 rear and have helped many do the same for free because I care enough to take the time to help good people out. What have you done? It's obvious you're not doing your own work yet you act like you have a clue regarding my level of experience. That's your second E-warrior, bitch move of the day.
Sounds like you're complaining about our country. Well old man, you have a few choices at this point. You can fly to Iraq or Afghanistan and help out, you can leave or you can die.
As for me, I'm still proud to be an American. I will go across the border as I choose. A few drinks with the good people of Mexico, some good sun on the beach and then I will drive back . You're a joke old man!! Seriously!!
The only joke is your self esteem. No pressure on us we are having good fun and take you about as serious as your 2 year old comments. Old man? Dude im probly 15 years younger than you and when you look at our two convo's on here who is the immature piece of shit?
Did you really just bring up experience? You own a corvette that you have some done some mods to, so that makes you??? Do you own your own shop cause you sure act like it.
I have you tube races of my car i have this i have that, are you fucking serious?
Jeff didnt send me in here i didnt even know this bs was going on untill i starting looking through the posts.
Im not going to respond to everything you posted its just to long and i dont have all day. Im not hiding anything yes my name is stainless40cal on corvetteforum eww you caught me whats your point? My name was once the same on here..
Let's all get this straight. You were on the phone with Jeff and he's discussing other customers' business with you? How unprofessional is that?
Enlarged so you won't need your bifocals for this one.
He calls about a Corvette kit and gets answers. Your attempt to defend it is how much the blower makes on other cars?? Are you seriously that fucking stupid??
This is the car based forum grandpa. The politics forum is elsewhere. If you don't like it, try Canada or run for president. We all know you have one vote locked in.
you talk about 1200rwhp when others are only making 950 with the same size motors and centri's, you talk about this you talk about that you talk about everything. You talk about Jeff's car having a 100k in it, but what you dont say is that its the car with a 100k in it, no the kenne bell not the motor, where talking what a 10k paint job, 2,000 brakes, a zr1 diff which is in a price range of its own, a 10k tranny set up,do you even understand that his car was not just built for 1000rwhp+ it was built to be how he wanted it (THE BEST OF THE BEST). Jeff's accessories in his car probly cost more than my entire set up.... Do you understand that ? You try to make it out to be like its a 100k car because of kenne bell, are you really that dumb? I GUARANTEE YOU you could not build the same exact car for under 100k, you will say you could but you couldnt in real life that is but you live on the internet so real life obviously means nothing to you.
If your cars so bad and so nice why are you selling it. I would keep it i mean you have video's of it on youtube it will probly worth a million dollars somday
You are hilarious you pull anything out your ass to try to make yourself not look stupid. SO let me ask you since in your previous posts you call me old man cause one again this just shows how stupid you really are and that your into a convo that you shouldnt even bring up.
HOW OLD ARE YOU? this way when you let us know everyone can see that someone who is probly young enough to be your son has been slapping your bitch ass all over the forum like your father.
^^^ you see this above i can stoop to your level, but do you see how retarted it is?
NO MATTER WHAT NO MATTER IF WE MAKE 1000 rwhp or 10,000 rwhp YOU WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN EXCUSE!
Last edited by Mike75356; 07-03-2009 at 01:45 PM..
Lets talk about how Jeff was too scared to put his money (KB kits) where his mouth is, concerning the GTO customer base? He was challenged by another tuner, TVS vs his KB setup, anything goes.
What happened to that Jeff? What happened to the "BESTEST EVER" PD blower kit for the GTO that you talked so highly of but yet disappeared soon after? What happened to it being "so much more efficient" than the TVS units? I seen TONS of TVS units and results being posted but nothing concerning the KB. You're a joke and so is your "company".
__________________ 2001 NBM SS M6 Sold 2006 Spice red GTO, M6
Do you have a pair of SHITTY "budget" heads? "Toss a FAST intake on, IT WILL MAKE IT ALL BETTER!"
Do you have a terrible head/cam setup? "Just throw a FAST intake in the mix, IT WILL FIX EVERYTHING!"
I agree his cam was hurting him a lot and his psi was down. What kind of boost were you seeing with a 3" pulley and stock pulley? I saw 15 psi. Now when we changed over to the 8.5 aftermarket with 3" we saw the boost spike over 20 psi but then my clutch could not handle it. Still have not gotten any heads yet.
I saw 15psi then drops to 13.5 with overdrive and 3 inch pulley.
I am not in the dog fight but I will say Kenne Bell has some IAT heat issues for sure. It may be a simple fix with an ice box cooler. Don't know and don't have to worry about it anymore. I know for a FACT the IAT readings are correct on Shane's car. I have a melted sensor to prove it. It looks like the sensor Jeff posted. I don't have a beef with Jeff or Kenne Bell. I bought a 2.6h for a 07 Shelby Mustang from Jeff and it worked great. 480rw. I did have some problems but got them worked out with no help from Kenne Bell. I bought my 418 Ls3 from Jeff and it's been one of the best engines I have had to date. Jeff did me right on both builds. I am building Shane's new setup and I can assure you I am no 5 dollar mechanic. If it doesn't work then it's all my fault.
Lets talk about how Jeff was too scared to put his money (KB kits) where his mouth is, concerning the GTO customer base? He was challenged by another tuner, TVS vs his KB setup, anything goes.
What happened to that Jeff? What happened to the "BESTEST EVER" PD blower kit for the GTO that you talked so highly of but yet disappeared soon after? What happened to it being "so much more efficient" than the TVS units? I seen TONS of TVS units and results being posted but nothing concerning the KB. You're a joke and so is your "company".
Really man really???? Hes one guy, dont you understand that?? Whats so hard to understand about that. He is not kenne bell, he is not some multi million dollar industry man that is out here making a killing aka rapeing off his customers like ecs and a&a i wonder why they can lower there prices all the time gee hmm hey maybe cause they rape you in the first place
When Jeff says hes going to do something he fucking does it. PERIOD END. Hes working on so many things that he doesnt even have to, just to help us out and you guys bitch at him for it????? Seriously man go to kenne bells website find a kit for the kenne bell on a GTO, ya you dont see one because its not kenne bell doing the work to try to help us LSX owners its JEFF.
Hes out here doing things not just for his company, not just for him, not just for his family. He is out here making these modifications for YOU the common guy who is intersted in the kit and would like a kenne bell on there car. And for this you guys ridicule him....? Grow the hell up.
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Originally Posted by 02402RAMAIR
I am not in the dog fight but I will say Kenne Bell has some IAT heat issues for sure. It may be a simple fix with an ice box cooler. Don't know and don't have to worry about it anymore. I know for a FACT the IAT readings are correct on Shane's car. I have a melted sensor to prove it. It looks like the sensor Jeff posted. I don't have a beef with Jeff or Kenne Bell. I bought a 2.6h for a 07 Shelby Mustang from Jeff and it worked great. 480rw. I did have some problems but got them worked out with no help from Kenne Bell. I bought my 418 Ls3 from Jeff and it's been one of the best engines I have had to date. Jeff did me right on both builds. I am building Shane's new setup and I can assure you I am no 5 dollar mechanic. If it doesn't work then it's all my fault.
I know you dont want involoved so im going to do my best to keep you out of it, however shanes part is a whole other story.
Lets do some facts about shane's car
1) Every single thing he tried to do to the car he fucked up. Badly. Obviously since now he is having someone else do a build for him right?
2) Go on corvette forum, via shanes words (I can look it up if you guys would like) He "completly solved his iat issues when he moved the iat sensor in the manifold" (which by the way is the most rediculous thing you could ever do). So i ask why does he have major iat issues? From his own mouth he solved them and stated this on the forum.
3) he drilled his manifold and completly ruined his warranty for his kenne bell, so my question is did you happen to mention that your blower has no warranty on it now when you sold it to that guy? I think not, sounds like a real stand up guy i would believe anything he says.....
o ya you also never answered my previous question about why you would call kenne bell to get a cam spec'd (and heard cfm rumors) but yet you were selling your blower the same week???? See previous post and let me know when you are ready to start standing up to your words.
To ramair, everything you stated about jeff sounds just like the guy i know. And i wish you the best of luck on shanes build i hope he gets it up and running where he wants it to be.
Really man really???? Hes one guy, dont you understand that?? Whats so hard to understand about that. He is not kenne bell, he is not some multi million dollar industry man that is out here making a killing aka rapeing off his customers like ecs and a&a i wonder why they can lower there prices all the time gee hmm hey maybe cause they rape you in the first place
When Jeff says hes going to do something he fucking does it. PERIOD END. Hes working on so many things that he doesnt even have to, just to help us out and you guys bitch at him for it????? Seriously man go to kenne bells website find a kit for the kenne bell on a GTO, ya you dont see one because its not kenne bell doing the work to try to help us LSX owners its JEFF.
Hes out here doing things not just for his company, not just for him, not just for his family. He is out here making these modifications for YOU the common guy who is intersted in the kit and would like a kenne bell on there car. And for this you guys ridicule him....? Grow the hell up.
I know you dont want involoved so im going to do my best to keep you out of it, however shanes part is a whole other story.
Lets do some facts about shane's car
1) Every single thing he tried to do to the car he fucked up. Badly. Obviously since now he is having someone else do a build for him right?
2) Go on corvette forum, via shanes words (I can look it up if you guys would like) He "completly solved his iat issues when he moved the iat sensor in the manifold" (which by the way is the most rediculous thing you could ever do). So i ask why does he have major iat issues? From his own mouth he solved them and stated this on the forum.
3) he drilled his manifold and completly ruined his warranty for his kenne bell, so my question is did you happen to mention that your blower has no warranty on it now when you sold it to that guy? I think not, sounds like a real stand up guy i would believe anything he says.....
o ya you also never answered my previous question about why you would call kenne bell to get a cam spec'd (and heard cfm rumors) but yet you were selling your blower the same week???? See previous post and let me know when you are ready to start standing up to your words.
To ramair, everything you stated about jeff sounds just like the guy i know. And i wish you the best of luck on shanes build i hope he gets it up and running where he wants it to be.
I started Shane's new build with the intentions of using the Kenne Bell. High compression and lots of meth was the plan. All parts were bought and cam was speced for the Kenne Bell to be used. If it didn't work with 10.8 to 1 then it was going to be sold. Change head gaskets, mill the heads and a N/A cam for a combo like mine that will run a low 10 to high 9 on motor. That was the plan. He was going to give it one more chance until he saw some other numbers come out from some KB strokers that were way low. He asked me what I thought and I told him to sell it and go with the TTIX kit. It has been 9.7x's already. It's bad when a all motor car out runs you week after week. I 60 better, ET better and MPH better. He has 10 grand sitting on top of his motor and I have a 800 dollar Fast intake. I also wanted to do a TTix kit. LOL
Looking forward to seeing how you all come out with Shane’s new setup.
I love this forum, I am reading about things I have known now for the past 2 ½ years.
Also so Mike75356 I must have missed your post when you got your car finished. How did it turn out?
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Originally Posted by 02402RAMAIR
I started Shane's new build with the intentions of using the Kenne Bell. High compression and lots of meth was the plan. All parts were bought and cam was speced for the Kenne Bell to be used. If it didn't work with 10.8 to 1 then it was going to be sold. Change head gaskets, mill the heads and a N/A cam for a combo like mine that will run a low 10 to high 9 on motor. That was the plan. He was going to give it one more chance until he saw some other numbers come out from some KB strokers that were way low. He asked me what I thought and I told him to sell it and go with the TTIX kit. It has been 9.7x's already. It's bad when a all motor car out runs you week after week. I 60 better, ET better and MPH better. He has 10 grand sitting on top of his motor and I have a 800 dollar Fast intake. I also wanted to do a TTix kit. LOL
I started Shane's new build with the intentions of using the Kenne Bell. High compression and lots of meth was the plan. All parts were bought and cam was speced for the Kenne Bell to be used. If it didn't work with 10.8 to 1 then it was going to be sold. Change head gaskets, mill the heads and a N/A cam for a combo like mine that will run a low 10 to high 9 on motor. That was the plan. He was going to give it one more chance until he saw some other numbers come out from some KB strokers that were way low. He asked me what I thought and I told him to sell it and go with the TTIX kit. It has been 9.7x's already. It's bad when a all motor car out runs you week after week. I 60 better, ET better and MPH better. He has 10 grand sitting on top of his motor and I have a 800 dollar Fast intake. I also wanted to do a TTix kit. LOL
I just want you to state something for me here.
Your saying it was the Kenne bells fault that he lost to an all motor car? Repeating what your stated here. The kenne bell wont work with 10.8 comp so that was the reason for selling it as well....? Did it get all that. O ya and that your car is faster n/a than a kenne bell car? You 60 better, you et better and mph better and your n/a.
Wow must be the blower then.... I guess i was just wrong all along sorry guys your right the kenne bell just cant get it done
This thread is as good as daytona was tonight, everything should just crash and burn about it
Looking forward to seeing how you all come out with Shane’s new setup.
I love this forum, I am reading about things I have known now for the past 2 ½ years.
Also so Mike75356 I must have missed your post when you got your car finished. How did it turn out?
Well i tried to get to 700rwhp but could only hit 699rwhp thats when i realized i failed and that it was all the kenne bell's fault so i quit and decided to go buy a ford, i heard the kb is only good on those cars anyway.
Well i tried to get to 700rwhp but could only hit 699rwhp thats when i realized i failed and that it was all the kenne bell's fault so i quit and decided to go buy a ford, i heard the kb is only good on those cars anyway.
Mike, I am a little confused as to why you had to be a smart ass with me? I just simply ask how you turn out with your build?
I am also confused as to what your goals are, you said you were trying to get to 700 rwhp but only made 699 rwhp. Your post on 03/10/2009 (shown below for ease) states your goal was 1000 rwhp & 1000 + rwtq give or take a few. Well 300 rwhp short is taking a few for sure.
Reading through you build it sounds like you pulled out all of the stops and didn’t hold back on anything. So now my question is if it not the KB system holding you down 300 rwhp from your goal, just what is it? cubic inches, compression ratio, cam? Maybe this new inlet I keep reading about will add that 300 rwhp, if so it must be sucking through a straw now.
I would have thought any shop worth their weight in dog shit could have gotten you closer to your goals then this, given the fact you spared no expense. I don’t care who you are 300rwhp is a long way from 1000rwhp.
You must have used a shop with a 5 million dollar facility, and a 5 dollar mechanic, where you get a 5 dollar job? Sounds like you should have gotten $3.69 back in change. Or did you know you would be short 300 rwhp of your goal before you started this build?
Below is your post from 03/10/2009
TPE Kenne Bell Blown 434 LSX and Hannibal Lector Cam**
________________________________________
Well im not as well known on this site compared to corvette forum and svt as i got an unwelcome back push from a mod a while back on here. So anyway with that said i just wanted to share my new build with you guys as well that dont belong on either of those other two forums.
Well as some of you may know I had some issues when i tore down my 346 so i decided to go to bigger cubes and figured oh what the hell we will just go to a 408 and lots of boost. After some long thinking and many hours on the phone with Jeff we have come to some solid conclusions and im proud to say that Jeff and TPE is going to be building me a great motor that is going to absolutly make a brutal street car. So we ditched the whole 408-416 ls3 idea and came to a conclusion of an lsx 434.
My goals are 1000rwhp 1000+rwtq on straight pump gas give or take a few we shall see what the dyno says at the end of the tuning process
The run down:
TPE 434LSx!!!!!!!!
Motor components:
LSx Bowtie Block
Callies 4340 Forged Crank w/2.1" rod journals
Callies "New Design" H-I beam 6.125" Forged rods
ARP2000 Rod bolts
ARP2000 Main Studs, w/ARP2000 side bolts
Clevite "Coated" main & rod bearings
Clevite "Coated" cam bearings
Wiseco Forged Pistons
Total Seal Rings (Stainless Top, Napier 2nd.1.5,1.5,3.0)
Double Roller tining set
Ported/Shimmed Melling 10296 oil pump
Machining and Parts Preperation:
Cylinders Bored/Torque Plate honed
Block decked and Squared (deck prepped to a surface RA of 38)
Cam Journals Line Bored
Mains Line Bored
Rotating assembly fully balanced
Crank Bladed and lightened
Chamfered Oil holes, and micropolished bearing surfaces
ALL parts and block hand deburred
Bronze bushed lifter bores
Completely assembled, blueprinted, photographed, documented, and serial numbered
Heads/Valvetrain:
Cometic .060 MLS gaskets
TFS 245 or New GM 6 bolts heads (70cc chambers)
2.1" Inconel stainless intake valve, 1.60" Incolel stainless exhaust
Dual "Extreme" springs good to .660" (150# seat, 410# open, Ti retainers)
Chromoly pushrods
Comp "Pro Magnum" roller rockers
Upgraded ARP2000 6 bolt head studs (one step below L19's
25x/25x .61x/.61x 113+3 (Hannibal Lector Cam )
That is the jist of it for now. Much more coming including complete pictures of the build as well as all install info all the way up to the final tune on the car. The car will be breathing through a set of full 2" headers into a complete 3" x pipe all the way out with 3" straight pipes out the back(no mufflers no cats). Some of you who have noticed my other posts may have seen im not the quiet type. I told Jeff i wanted the baddest sounding and most rediculous cam possible while still having a decent driveability field as well as not losing any power by going to big.
With this said I am a younger guy and i just want to make it clear that this build will be a timely fashioned build depending on my cash flow and will most likey be completed in the next several months depending on how well things go for me.
Any questions just ask guys I am extremly pleased with everything TPE has offered me and would just like to say thanks to Jeff times a billion cause i would never have gotten this far without him and his wealth of knowledge.
Other things that are done to my car:
Kenne Bell 2.8 fully ported inlet manifold
8 rib
heavy duty tensioner assembly
etc
Car is mini tubed and fully caged
345 bfg tires on the back
full wet nitrous system
etc etc etc etc it could go on all day lol...
Mike, I am a little confused as to why you had to be a smart ass with me? I just simply ask how you turn out with your build?
I am also confused as to what your goals are, you said you were trying to get to 700 rwhp but only made 699 rwhp. Your post on 03/10/2009 (shown below for ease) states your goal was 1000 rwhp & 1000 + rwtq give or take a few. Well 300 rwhp short is taking a few for sure.
Reading through you build it sounds like you pulled out all of the stops and didn’t hold back on anything. So now my question is if it not the KB system holding you down 300 rwhp from your goal, just what is it? cubic inches, compression ratio, cam? Maybe this new inlet I keep reading about will add that 300 rwhp, if so it must be sucking through a straw now.
I would have thought any shop worth their weight in dog shit could have gotten you closer to your goals then this, given the fact you spared no expense. I don’t care who you are 300rwhp is a long way from 1000rwhp.
You must have used a shop with a 5 million dollar facility, and a 5 dollar mechanic, where you get a 5 dollar job? Sounds like you should have gotten $3.69 back in change. Or did you know you would be short 300 rwhp of your goal before you started this build?
Below is your post from 03/10/2009
TPE Kenne Bell Blown 434 LSX and Hannibal Lector Cam**
________________________________________
Well im not as well known on this site compared to corvette forum and svt as i got an unwelcome back push from a mod a while back on here. So anyway with that said i just wanted to share my new build with you guys as well that dont belong on either of those other two forums.
Well as some of you may know I had some issues when i tore down my 346 so i decided to go to bigger cubes and figured oh what the hell we will just go to a 408 and lots of boost. After some long thinking and many hours on the phone with Jeff we have come to some solid conclusions and im proud to say that Jeff and TPE is going to be building me a great motor that is going to absolutly make a brutal street car. So we ditched the whole 408-416 ls3 idea and came to a conclusion of an lsx 434.
My goals are 1000rwhp 1000+rwtq on straight pump gas give or take a few we shall see what the dyno says at the end of the tuning process
The run down:
TPE 434LSx!!!!!!!!
Motor components:
LSx Bowtie Block
Callies 4340 Forged Crank w/2.1" rod journals
Callies "New Design" H-I beam 6.125" Forged rods
ARP2000 Rod bolts
ARP2000 Main Studs, w/ARP2000 side bolts
Clevite "Coated" main & rod bearings
Clevite "Coated" cam bearings
Wiseco Forged Pistons
Total Seal Rings (Stainless Top, Napier 2nd.1.5,1.5,3.0)
Double Roller tining set
Ported/Shimmed Melling 10296 oil pump
Machining and Parts Preperation:
Cylinders Bored/Torque Plate honed
Block decked and Squared (deck prepped to a surface RA of 38)
Cam Journals Line Bored
Mains Line Bored
Rotating assembly fully balanced
Crank Bladed and lightened
Chamfered Oil holes, and micropolished bearing surfaces
ALL parts and block hand deburred
Bronze bushed lifter bores
Completely assembled, blueprinted, photographed, documented, and serial numbered
Heads/Valvetrain:
Cometic .060 MLS gaskets
TFS 245 or New GM 6 bolts heads (70cc chambers)
2.1" Inconel stainless intake valve, 1.60" Incolel stainless exhaust
Dual "Extreme" springs good to .660" (150# seat, 410# open, Ti retainers)
Chromoly pushrods
Comp "Pro Magnum" roller rockers
Upgraded ARP2000 6 bolt head studs (one step below L19's
25x/25x .61x/.61x 113+3 (Hannibal Lector Cam )
That is the jist of it for now. Much more coming including complete pictures of the build as well as all install info all the way up to the final tune on the car. The car will be breathing through a set of full 2" headers into a complete 3" x pipe all the way out with 3" straight pipes out the back(no mufflers no cats). Some of you who have noticed my other posts may have seen im not the quiet type. I told Jeff i wanted the baddest sounding and most rediculous cam possible while still having a decent driveability field as well as not losing any power by going to big.
With this said I am a younger guy and i just want to make it clear that this build will be a timely fashioned build depending on my cash flow and will most likey be completed in the next several months depending on how well things go for me.
Any questions just ask guys I am extremly pleased with everything TPE has offered me and would just like to say thanks to Jeff times a billion cause i would never have gotten this far without him and his wealth of knowledge.
Other things that are done to my car:
Kenne Bell 2.8 fully ported inlet manifold
8 rib
heavy duty tensioner assembly
etc
Car is mini tubed and fully caged
345 bfg tires on the back
full wet nitrous system
etc etc etc etc it could go on all day lol...
Listen man i hate to be the one to break the bad news, but my post was just a joke, dont believe everything you read on the interweb's
My car is not finished and wont be untill i get enough time off work to finish it, to be honest its not my number one priority in life like most of the guys on here and it will be finished when it is finished. I have a 72 chevelle with nitrous that i have been toying with all summer 9.6's so far in it, and my other project car 70 nova just got its new TT's on the 632 bbc in it, so easily said above im in no rush and like to do things right the first time.
Only reason i was being a smart ass to you, was cause i thought you were being like these other dummy's and being one to me, sorry for the confusion.
When Jeff says hes going to do something he fucking does it. PERIOD END.
Lets do some facts about shane's car
1) Every single thing he tried to do to the car he fucked up. Badly. Obviously since now he is having someone else do a build for him right?
2) Go on corvette forum, via shanes words (I can look it up if you guys would like) He "completly solved his iat issues when he moved the iat sensor in the manifold" (which by the way is the most rediculous thing you could ever do). So i ask why does he have major iat issues? From his own mouth he solved them and stated this on the forum.
3) he drilled his manifold and completly ruined his warranty for his kenne bell, so my question is did you happen to mention that your blower has no warranty on it now when you sold it to that guy? I think not, sounds like a real stand up guy i would believe anything he says..... o ya you also never answered my previous question about why you would call kenne bell to get a cam spec'd (and heard cfm rumors) but yet you were selling your blower the same week???? See previous post and let me know when you are ready to start standing up to your words.
To ramair, everything you stated about jeff sounds just like the guy i know. And i wish you the best of luck on shanes build i hope he gets it up and running where he wants it to be.
1 Dude you don't know me from anyone. The reason Kris is doing the build is he wants to I will be helping also.
2 When I say fixed IAT problem I didn't mean HIGH IAT's. I meant common sense tells you that if the sensor is in a bad place where not enough air flow goes by it then the runner is where it will fix it. But then again maybe you aren't that smart.
3 If drilling a lower manifold to move a sensor voided warranty then what do you think about drilling your air intake for meth. I am glad Jeff is telling you what to say here. Besides the warranty up this month but there again not of your business . The price he got on all of it was a real good deal. I didn't want to sell it for what he offered but I wanted to get rid of it. Unlike you where you setting it aside. I race my car this is real world IAT's not DYno iat's where you hit and let off.
as for last thing. I did it earlier in the thread. I have been gathing up parts and was still going to use the KB until I read the thread that I posted earlier.
Here is one other thing. The same motor dynoed over 750rwh with a turbo blowing threw the converter. With that combo it ran 5.60 in the 1/8th. So it's not the motor what does that leave? BLOWER if you can't figure it out.
As for my friend running faster on motor than I do with the KB. If you would like to say it driver ok but a smart person that can read numbers at the track will tell you when that both cars are running pretty much same MPH than they are pretty much same Horsepower. The high IAT's of my system are killing hp by the end of run.
Your saying it was the Kenne bells fault that he lost to an all motor car? Repeating what your stated here. The kenne bell wont work with 10.8 comp so that was the reason for selling it as well....? Did it get all that. O ya and that your car is faster n/a than a kenne bell car? You 60 better, you et better and mph better and your n/a.
Wow must be the blower then.... I guess i was just wrong all along sorry guys your right the kenne bell just cant get it done
This thread is as good as daytona was tonight, everything should just crash and burn about it
I think you are getting what I said all wrong. I am not here busting Jeff or Kenne Bells ass. I have seen first hand and I have also confirmed there is a Huge IAT problem with Shane's car. It's not the motors fault for the IAT's. It is a problem with Shane's KB setup. The Maggie setup didn't have an issue. The Outlaw Dart Shane's motor was in before it went in the Vette didn't have an IAT problem and it was running a 9x mm turbo, no I/C and meth. We were thinking it might be a simple problem to fix with an ice box setup. Shane bought a sheet of Aluminium and a lid so I could build him a custom Ice Box. It could be a bad inner cooler. There were several things I wanted to check, address, and upgrade. Shane wanted the car to perform and I said let me build it the way I would and it will. He agreed so I started ordering parts. It was to be a 10.8 to 1 flat top LS3, Calias crank and rods, Diamond pistons, ETP 255 72cc heads, Patrick G speced cam, Meth and Ice box cooler also running the A/W heat exchanger after the inner cooler to cool the water before it got to the ice. I am sure it would make good power if the KB could supply enough COOL boost. This is what was being built till about a week or so ago. Then several people were able to get some numbers on there KB setups and things didn't look so promising. KB combo's that should of put down awesome numbers struggled to get close to 700rw. Shane had a backup plan if the new setup didn't work out. He would sell the Kenne Bell, Mill the heads, change cam and put a intake on it and run N/A. He also talked about a centri. At the time a TTix came up for sale on CF.
OK lets look at this a minute.
He could build the new engine and the KB BUT there is not a single KB vette making any kind of power and the fastest KB vette was Shane. The intake is a restrictor plate and it has out of control IAT's.
He could sell the KB, continue to build the same engine, change the cam shaft, and buy the TTix kit. It would cost him a couple grand but he would get a proven Kit that has lots of room to grow. His new engine will work awesome with it and no more IAT and Belt problems.
He asked me what I would do and I said sell the KB and buy the TTix kit and that's what he did.
I still think we could of made some good power with the new KB build BUT IAT problem had to be fixed.
We found the easiest way to fix the problem was to sell it. PROBLEM FIXED.
I am not trying to bash Kenne Bell. I am just stating why the change in FI on shane's build.
You guys can bash Shane all you want but just remember. His KB car was faster than yours. Including Jeff's 800rw car.
How does drilling a lower intake void warranty. Its a intake. Its not the power adder. That's KB or Jeff just being shitty. In no way does it affect the blower unit at all to cause a warranty to be voided. If you were to have a blower failure and have to send it in would you send the intake too. Hell when I bought that KB for the Mustang Shelby KB sent the wrong tuner and wouldn't even pay for shipping on something they sent out wrong. I am willing to bet they wouldn't pay for shipping on a heavy ass intake that has shit to do with a warranty on a blower just to see if it had been modified unless KB is just looking to void warranties
Your saying it was the Kenne bells fault that he lost to an all motor car? Repeating what your stated here. The kenne bell wont work with 10.8 comp so that was the reason for selling it as well....? Did it get all that. O ya and that your car is faster n/a than a kenne bell car? You 60 better, you et better and mph better and your n/a.
Wow must be the blower then.... I guess i was just wrong all along sorry guys your right the kenne bell just cant get it done
This thread is as good as daytona was tonight, everything should just crash and burn about it
Wow didn't realize your car was the 434 Hannibal car. 699? I bet you are pissed. lol.
in to praise your product. This one's on you. Fix the problems and put up the numbers. On the track, on the dyno. Either one may suffice. Not with your 100 thousand dollar car but with your off the shelf units that your customers are going to get.
. You're a joke old man!! Seriously!!
. The price he got on all of it was a real good deal. I didn't want to sell it for what he offered but I wanted to get rid of it. Unlike you where you setting it aside. I race my car this is real world IAT's not DYno iat's where you hit and let off. 
