Many of the posts in this thread remind me of the juvenile forums I avoid. Too bad they are not in PM's so we could keep the public area sane and reasonably mature.
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Really man really???? Hes one guy, dont you understand that?? Whats so hard to understand about that. He is not kenne bell, he is not some multi million dollar industry man that is out here making a killing aka rapeing off his customers like ecs and a&a i wonder why they can lower there prices all the time gee hmm hey maybe cause they rape you in the first place
This statement baffles me.......show me one post, one thread, about A&A ripping or rapeing someone???? Customer service is next to none. I can call Andy at 11pm on a Sunday night and he will more then likely answer his phone, to answer any question I might have. You as well as Jeff say how vendors like A&A are making a killing on their products, take an 8-rib kit for example.....Jeff sells the IW balancer for $525 + 8-rib pulleys for $489 is that not more then $995.00 that A&A sells them for? But yet they are raping people on their prices? Give me a break....
You sir got the shaft. Can't say that I wouldn't be deffensive if I spent the kind of money you did with results less then my garage built 347 and centri.
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Just wanted to add the 5.60 was on pump gas "93" octane and with 10.2 afr's on the wide band.
has anyone said what fuel they was running. humm???
also maybe shane should post up the numbers this motor made on 93 octane in the ss camaro with the pt88. that is a much smaller turbo than my s95 and still made good numbers.
it is not for shane or kris to fix or R-n-D a Kit that was to make the numbers to start with. If shane Had been told the kenny bell would not make the numbers he would of not bought it. He went off of the 1000 rwhp of the only vette with KB, at the time, to base his decission off of. Lesson learned.
well thats my two cents.
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I think you are getting what I said all wrong. I am not here busting Jeff or Kenne Bells ass. I have seen first hand and I have also confirmed there is a Huge IAT problem with Shane's car. It's not the motors fault for the IAT's. It is a problem with Shane's KB setup. The Maggie setup didn't have an issue. The Outlaw Dart Shane's motor was in before it went in the Vette didn't have an IAT problem and it was running a 9x mm turbo, no I/C and meth. We were thinking it might be a simple problem to fix with an ice box setup. Shane bought a sheet of Aluminium and a lid so I could build him a custom Ice Box. It could be a bad inner cooler. There were several things I wanted to check, address, and upgrade. Shane wanted the car to perform and I said let me build it the way I would and it will. He agreed so I started ordering parts. It was to be a 10.8 to 1 flat top LS3, Calias crank and rods, Diamond pistons, ETP 255 72cc heads, Patrick G speced cam, Meth and Ice box cooler also running the A/W heat exchanger after the inner cooler to cool the water before it got to the ice. I am sure it would make good power if the KB could supply enough COOL boost. This is what was being built till about a week or so ago. Then several people were able to get some numbers on there KB setups and things didn't look so promising. KB combo's that should of put down awesome numbers struggled to get close to 700rw. Shane had a backup plan if the new setup didn't work out. He would sell the Kenne Bell, Mill the heads, change cam and put a intake on it and run N/A. He also talked about a centri. At the time a TTix came up for sale on CF.
OK lets look at this a minute.
He could build the new engine and the KB BUT there is not a single KB vette making any kind of power and the fastest KB vette was Shane. The intake is a restrictor plate and it has out of control IAT's.
He could sell the KB, continue to build the same engine, change the cam shaft, and buy the TTix kit. It would cost him a couple grand but he would get a proven Kit that has lots of room to grow. His new engine will work awesome with it and no more IAT and Belt problems.
He asked me what I would do and I said sell the KB and buy the TTix kit and that's what he did.
I still think we could of made some good power with the new KB build BUT IAT problem had to be fixed.
We found the easiest way to fix the problem was to sell it. PROBLEM FIXED.
I am not trying to bash Kenne Bell. I am just stating why the change in FI on shane's build.
You guys can bash Shane all you want but just remember. His KB car was faster than yours. Including Jeff's 800rw car.
How does drilling a lower intake void warranty. Its a intake. Its not the power adder. That's KB or Jeff just being shitty. In no way does it affect the blower unit at all to cause a warranty to be voided. If you were to have a blower failure and have to send it in would you send the intake too. Hell when I bought that KB for the Mustang Shelby KB sent the wrong tuner and wouldn't even pay for shipping on something they sent out wrong. I am willing to bet they wouldn't pay for shipping on a heavy ass intake that has shit to do with a warranty on a blower just to see if it had been modified unless KB is just looking to void warranties
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This statement baffles me.......show me one post, one thread, about A&A ripping or rapeing someone???? Customer service is next to none. I can call Andy at 11pm on a Sunday night and he will more then likely answer his phone, to answer any question I might have. You as well as Jeff say how vendors like A&A are making a killing on their products, take an 8-rib kit for example.....Jeff sells the IW balancer for $525 + 8-rib pulleys for $489 is that not more then $995.00 that A&A sells them for? But yet they are raping people on their prices? Give me a break....
You sir got the shaft. Can't say that I wouldn't be deffensive if I spent the kind of money you did with results less then my garage built 347 and centri.
Just so you know, you have no idea what you are talking about. If you new what the word "profits" ment then i would start to explain but yet again people just dont understand. No one said anything about an 8 rib kit, why jump from one thing to the next and then cry more, maybe cause the excuses never stop?
And you must be able to predict the future since you know my results?
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I want to play, lol
Just wanted to add the 5.60 was on pump gas "93" octane and with 10.2 afr's on the wide band.
has anyone said what fuel they was running. humm???
also maybe shane should post up the numbers this motor made on 93 octane in the ss camaro with the pt88. that is a much smaller turbo than my s95 and still made good numbers.
it is not for shane or kris to fix or R-n-D a Kit that was to make the numbers to start with. If shane Had been told the kenny bell would not make the numbers he would of not bought it. He went off of the 1000 rwhp of the only vette with KB, at the time, to base his decission off of. Lesson learned.
well thats my two cents.
Just another person who has no idea what they are talking about, what do you guys run in packs these days or just hang from nut to nut???
Yea... its sad they cant even read, or i should say they read what they want and ignore the facts man. Just a waste of time...
It's awful funny you make fun of someone else for doing the same thing. I posted why I speced a cam near the beging of the thread. I guess maybe you can't read or read what you want and ignore the facts.
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this is a real screw blower that will kick ass of the largest 1871 roots style supercharger, but you can tell it's twice the size of the largest roots and it's not the cute little "AQUARIUM PUMP Kenny Bell" Show me some real world numbers or time slips and video on the kenny bell on a LS chevy and I will be the first to take my hat of and say good job
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Show me some real world numbers or time slips and video on the kenny bell on a LS chevy and I will be the first to take my hat of and say good job
If you're looking for proof, you're in the wrong place. This is the place where they don't put up and don't shut up my friend. Just lots of my car's gonna do this and that when it's done.
So far, some whom have finished their cars have not posted their numbers. Does anyone honestly think that someone excited that they purchased a blower and told everyone would keep their #'s to themselves if they were happy with them?
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911rwhp with the old heads. Looking to take it up a notch with the new AFR's. #'s coming soon.
So far, some whom have finished their cars have not posted their numbers. Does anyone honestly think that someone excited that they purchased a blower and told everyone would keep their #'s to themselves if they were happy with them?
Hang on here folks. Bret are you saying that there have been some KB cars finished but the results are not being posted?
What happened to that KB that was going on the 434 cube motor? The one with the Hannibal cam?
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There was some bragging on how many of these units were sold during the sale yet we haven't seen many #'s 7 months later. It's easily understood that some folks aren't in a hurry, but come on now.
The Hannibal 434 is still in the works. We'll see what happens. I'll bet if it doesn't make reasonably decent numbers we won't hear from them either.
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911rwhp with the old heads. Looking to take it up a notch with the new AFR's. #'s coming soon.
Wasn't that Stainless's car? I haven't seen him on CF board much-then again I can't post much there either-lol!!!!!!
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Just so you know, you have no idea what you are talking about. If you new what the word "profits" ment then i would start to explain but yet again people just dont understand. No one said anything about an 8 rib kit, why jump from one thing to the next and then cry more, maybe cause the KB excuses never stop?
And you must be able to predict the future since you know my results?
Just another person who has no idea what they are talking about, what do you guys run in packs these days or just hang from nut to nut???
"Fixed"...You are correct in that the KB swingers never stop with the excuses....looking forward to seeing what your end results are....if I don't hear about them, I'll know!
I'm not one to bicker but to say A&A rips people off is just retarded.
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