I saw this happen with Renegade cars with YSi's and no coolers but they still made over 850 rwhp unlocked with a hydraulic roller. There IAT temps hit 250+ but there only 310 cubes.
How does a 2.8KB compare to a YSi? What's the other blower that's over 3 litres?
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Fluke. I know of several builds right now KB"s from American HP and none of them have made over 700rwh and everything was speced by American HP. I know of one guy that is so disappointed with his setup that he will not even post numbers.
It's awful funny you make fun of someone else for doing the same thing. I posted why I speced a cam near the beging of the thread. I guess maybe you can't read or read what you want and ignore the facts.
Im not going to read through the whole thread after you guys made a crap pile out of it dummy. Its just a shame people cant even take a joke. If you can tell my car is not done by my previous posts then the jokes on you.
I didnt look back to check cause im old and lazy, but did you ever answer my question about....
Did you tell the guy you sold your blower to that it no longer has a warranty before you sold it to him???
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Just another person who has no idea what they are talking about, what do you guys run in packs these days or just hang from nut to nut???
this is a real screw blower that will kick ass of the largest 1871 roots style supercharger, but you can tell it's twice the size of the largest roots and it's not the cute little "AQUARIUM PUMP Kenny Bell" Show me some real world numbers or time slips and video on the kenny bell on a LS chevy and I will be the first to take my hat of and say good job [/quote]
Congrats you have a real screw blower. The problem is its a rooooooots blower not a screw blower if you even know the diffrence. And whats your point? You can slap a big blower on a big motor job well done. UFTW
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If you're looking for proof, you're in the wrong place. This is the place where they don't put up and don't shut up my friend. Just lots of my car's gonna do this and that when it's done.
So far, some whom have finished their cars have not posted their numbers. Does anyone honestly think that someone excited that they purchased a blower and told everyone would keep their #'s to themselves if they were happy with them?
Who finsihed there car and didnt post up? I would like to know? Im not "scared" to post up. If i make 10 hp then i will tell you i made 10 hp i dont gotta make anything up to make a bunch of people on the internet feel stupid.
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Hang on here folks. Bret are you saying that there have been some KB cars finished but the results are not being posted?
What happened to that KB that was going on the 434 cube motor? The one with the Hannibal cam?
I would like to know what he is talking about as well. Mine (stainless) is the 434 motor, and i didnt finish it Arun, hows yours coming last i saw you were really clost to 8's man must feel good in that animal!
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Arun,
I don't think that one even started.
Nope.
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Wasn't that Stainless's car? I haven't seen him on CF board much-then again I can't post much there either-lol!!!!!!
Yea i just dont have the time anymore with my new job buddy that and any site i cant post a street race on, well yea you know the rest...
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"Fixed"...You are correct in that the KB swingers never stop with the excuses....looking forward to seeing what your end results are....if I don't hear about them, I'll know!
I'm not one to bicker but to say A&A rips people off is just retarded.
Im not saying they "rip" people off. I really like a&a and think they are a great company.
If you new what kind of money some of those companys were really making off you then maybe you would understand.
O you will hear about them im not going anywhere. 1000rwhp 1200rwhp or 800rwhp im not going anywhere and will be glad to provide results for
Say whatever you want at the end of the day all your doing is running your mouth on the internet about nothing.
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Wasn't he the cam bleed issue? It gave me second thoughts about using a large split cam as well.
I think the 434 Hannibal post was a different setup but I might be wrong. I am a little discouraged with this board as well ever since it was sold.
Nope that was the 416 ls3 that had that rediculous cam in it. He had a 14psi pulley on i believe and only made like 7psi lol!!!
Hannibal set up is mine.
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How bout them IAT's
So hot it melted the plastic around the sensor
That wouldnt have anything to do with the system not even being cooled cause it was set up backwards would it?????
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Fuck off!!!!! Are you serious?
I saw this happen with Renegade cars with YSi's and no coolers but they still made over 850 rwhp unlocked with a hydraulic roller. There IAT temps hit 250+ but there only 310 cubes.
How does a 2.8KB compare to a YSi? What's the other blower that's over 3 litres?
Whipple 3.3
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Fluke. I know of several builds right now KB"s from American HP and none of them have made over 700rwh and everything was speced by American HP. I know of one guy that is so disappointed with his setup that he will not even post numbers.
I WOULD GLADLY ASK YOU TO PUT UP OR SHUT UP RIGHT NOW SHOW ME THESE BUILDS THAT HE SPEC'D?????????????????????????????????????
Your statement doesnt even make sense. Think about it do people spend thousand upon thousands of dollars to make terrible numbers and then do nothing about it and done even post? NO when they have a problem the first thing they do is come on here and say i only made such and such hp why am i so low? what am i doing wrong? Does anyone have any suggestions?
It always hits the internet. And you think people would just hide and say o know go ahead and buy this blower i wont tell you my numbers but its a great blower?
Im sure your right thought that Jeff's car was a "fluke", such a fluke that he would go and base his main kits off kenne bell for his own shop and just waste hundreds of thousand of dollars to see it all go down the tubes even though he knew it was a waste from the get go.... yeahhhh that makes perfect sense... Get real man. You couldnt set anything up properly on your car and got in over your head and before you new it you were drilling your intake out and using incorrect sensors just because they look the same
AND JUST AN FYI here im not against all your centri guys i have run centri set ups and love them to death but twin screw is fun on the street if you have ever been in one. Im honeslty not worried at all about mine make the power im looking for. However if it doesnt, then it doesnt, and ill be like every other person on here and go buy a huge centri (joking)
Well one off the top of my head is Robert Miller 590RWH and 570 rwt on a 402, TF 235 heads 14psi. Does that sound familiar? Sounds like typical shitty numbers out of this kit. Cam was speced by Jeff. Build was done with Jeff's recommendations.
The sensor issue was after the Intercooler was setup right.
As for the warranty it was up this month anyway so I seen no reason to bring that up and he didn't ask. Breecher also had IAT's in the 250. So it's not just my old system. I just don't know why you are so protective of this system and you don't even have one up and running. You will see for yourself when you get yours going I am sure.
Jeff also made an ass of himself throwing a fit about the air intake inlet. Is seemed to be because he got wind of Roger having both intakes and going to put them on the dyno to show real world difference if any. It would have been nice to get results to know if that really helped of fixed the issue.
If you guys want to know the truth. If Andrew and Mike make the # I will honestly be happy for them. After all, they have put their time and money in just as we all have and don't deserve any less. As soon as you get your numbers up you let us know. I will shut my mouth about the KB's not putting down the #'s. I just don't care for the talking before doing aspect of this KB situation. That's just me. I don't care for how Jeff has treated some personal friends that don't even know each other and never heard the others' stories before telling me. I also know that there are plenty of people out there that praise him. At the end of the day, it's my choice that decides whom I do business with.
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this is a real screw blower that will kick ass of the largest 1871 roots style supercharger, but you can tell it's twice the size of the largest roots and it's not the cute little "AQUARIUM PUMP Kenny Bell" Show me some real world numbers or time slips and video on the kenny bell on a LS chevy and I will be the first to take my hat of and say good job [/quote]
Congrats you have a real screw blower. The problem is its a rooooooots blower not a screw blower if you even know the diffrence. And whats your point? You can slap a big blower on a big motor job well done. UFTW
No my friend it is a screw. they are all rectangle shape but the physical size of the screw is bigger than the roots. My question would be if the screw is more efficent than the roots then why do the Alcohol screw superchargers have to be twice the size of the roots just to out perform them. here is another picture of a whipple screw. Not a roots. Dont be quick to call a person out on something you didnt do your home work on cause I have NOT POSTED A picture of a roots blower yet. I do know the differance, as you do not.
I hope your K/B set up makes the numbers you are shooting for.
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Mike75356 this post is addressed to you.
Twice you bring the topic of warranty up when referring to Shane selling his Kenne Bell; well here below are two factual answers for you.
O2SSLE
“As for the warranty it was up this month anyway so I seen no reason to bring that up and he didn't ask.”
He has now told you this twice now, how many times will it take for you to get it?
The thing everyone needs to understand is; a warranty is only as good as the person who gave it when the product was sold.
If you go back and check all of the posts, or remember correctly before Robert Miller bought his Kenne Bell “new in the box” from another forum member that had changed his mind and wanted to sell it by the time he got it. The question went on for days to find out if Jeff who originally sold it was going to honor the warranty. If you remember correctly the first response was the warranty went to the original owner only. Being the seller was the original owner even though it was unused “new in the box” the warranty was seemingly going to stop at this point. This caused such a ruckus it was finally privately agreed that the warranty would transfer to the new owner, so Robert at that time bought the Kenne Bell he now has.
Now my question is this,
With this type of thinking from a vendor explain to me just how the new owner that Shane sold his Kenne Bell to could receive it, install it, tune it and use it then have any time left to even consider using a warranty. Even if drilling the hole in the manifold had not been the vendor way of lashing out in order to have the last word and then having the I will show you attitude? Also please explain to me just how drilling a hole in a non wearing non moving part could affect the performance and or longevity of this unit? The thing everyone needs to understand and remember is; a warranty is only as good as the person who gave it when the product was sold.
I am supposed to get the new intake and will hopefully do back to back same day results.
Z06PSI
I will be looking forward to seeing how the new intake will work for you, please be sure and keep us posted. I love the Kenne Bell and think is has great potential but from everything I am researching and finding has not shown what is now to be considered the big numbers on the corvettes yet. Hope you can change all of that.
Mike did you get banned on the CF forum? Shit man I'm on moderation-any post I make get's moderated first.
This is my thing with the KB-what the hell is anyone gonna do with all that torque? Especially on a C5 with a drivetrain that's not suited for drag racing for example.
Now my car for example is a centri, I run a 2600 stall and sixty foot low 1.4's off idle, I pull 1.38 sixty's with a 1500 foot brake.
All I need is a well prepped tracked so I can put the 900 rwhp tune up in the car and we'll see what happens.
What was Z06wanted's 60 foots at the track?
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I am supposed to get the new intake and will hopefully do back to back same day results.
That will be nice man. I think that the results need to come from someone besides the vendor (non biased). JMO
I hope maybe that it was just my combination wasn't right for the rest of you guys. Maybe the intake will solve the problem. I just know that the MP122 makes 900 hp on the engine dyno so it can be done by a positive displacement blower.
Yikes-WTF is up with that? I figured with the KB you could easily just leave off idle? Hell I figured you would probably turn the idle down to 300 rpm so it wouldn't hit so damn hard!!!!
I don't know-there must be something going on with these KB's. Bret you said somebody else finsihed up there car but were afraid to post the numbers?
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I don't know-there must be something going on with these KB's. Bret you said somebody else finsihed up there car but were afraid to post the numbers?
Trying to play nice here Pit. (that's your new nickname by the way )
Back in December I believe we were told that 29 units were sold. Maybe more during that sale period. Out of all of those people, I have heard of 1 or 2 peoples' numbers. Where the hell are all the rest? I am thinking Shane's going to have his new motor built, in the car, turbos on, tuned and time slips posted and possibly a broken trans or diff. before we get some damn #'s posted up.
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Just another person who has no idea what they are talking about, what do you guys run in packs these days or just hang from nut to nut???
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