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Old 08-30-2009, 12:30 PM   #41
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in slow mo, the van was out about half (6 ft or so) before the vette moved. The vans rear bumper is crossing the starting line when the vettes door is......

I commend the guy for running it. He said that no else wanted to runhim, so he was glad to race. Its not the vette isnt 100000000000 times cooler.

No comments about the mother zr1 going 13.29 in BRISTOL....what did it start in reverse?
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Old 08-30-2009, 01:02 PM   #42
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you guys are talking about a 600+ horsepower car on a street tire.
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Enough bench racing, someone find me video of a stock ZR1 at the track on the stock tires, I can't find any. So you my want to bash on this ZR1 driver, but he did take it to the drag strip and try.
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The van is the fuckin coolest thing I've seen on this website in a LONG time! But the attitude of it being faster than any ZR1 in stock tires is a joke. You only beat ONE because he was asleep at the line.....and drove like Miss Daisy.

Now excuse me while I go post the video of the ZR1 ownage on my local forum lol !!!!!
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you guys are talking about a 600+ horsepower car on a street tire.
Yeah, we think "The Van" is somewhere around there




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The van is the fuckin coolest thing I've seen on this website in a LONG time! But the attitude of it being faster than any ZR1 in stock tires is a joke. You only beat ONE because he was asleep at the line.....and drove like Miss Daisy.
1.9 60 for a RWD car on the street tires has some damn good prep. I can barley hit 1.9 at Midnight mayhem on 29 inch 305 555r's - or on my 245/45/16 ET streets. TnT - Different Story - You guys are funny as hell- Come on out to Vegas with 5000+ DA, 110º middle of the night, long waits with no area to get an actual cool down- and the prep we have - THIS IS VEGAS BABY!~
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Old 08-30-2009, 04:29 PM   #45
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Many people do not understand VEGAS weather,DA and our hit and miss MM nights...if they brought thier car here they would sell it thinking it was broken!
None- the- less the van is a cool ass project, AWD, turbo thats the formula for a 60 footin mofo on the street!
congrads to jon for building up a unique new model heavy weight TYPHOONexpress
WILL, thank you for an entertaining video the music was quite possibly the best it could ever be!!! A-TEAM lol i pitty da po foo that races this van!lol
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Old 08-30-2009, 06:14 PM   #46
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The van is the fuckin coolest thing I've seen on this website in a LONG time! But the attitude of it being faster than any ZR1 in stock tires is a joke. You only beat ONE because he was asleep at the line.....and drove like Miss Daisy.

Now excuse me while I go post the video of the ZR1 ownage on my local forum lol !!!!!
You contradict yourself....any zr1 does = 1 or greater....You said it only beat one! Well, one is more then any.....and one was all we had. It would obviously have beaten the mothers car too, probably, unless his light was better, but it ran a 13.29 in bristol of all places. So mathmatically that makes two it would beat.....which is way more then ANY.

LOL.....like I d race a zr1 and get a win light with full size van and not take credit? Come on....I built it and I drove it.....part van, and part driver won the race, which I believe is what it takes to win ANY race.

BTW, the 11.25 one....thats fast, and awesome, but just like everyone can say tthe vegas car should be faster....I can say that car would be slower in vegas....His fisrt pass 11.6 then 11.4....so lets say 11.5, that could turn into a 12.5-12.75 in vegas....coupled with even worse traction....gets her right into the low 13's...and what do you know.....

Besides,who says the van cant go faster even ( i ran with a passenger and the bench seats, an spare and stuff, I could probably ditch close to 500 lbs).....It picked up 1.5 seconds in a week with out so much as touching the boost controller.

Obviously the van is not the end all be all of anything...but it is fun as hell, and it did beat one zr1 that new he was racing, that got the opurtunity at a fair start, and had no mechanical issues. Mistakes happen , I limited my mistakes and maximized the vans potential, while the zr1 did not, so it lost.

The problem is the zr1 itself makes it hard to maximize its potential at all...given the brake size and available tires. Just like I cant make the van scale 3000 lbs.
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:11 PM   #47
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You contradict yourself....any zr1 does = 1 or greater....You said it only beat one! Well, one is more then any.....and one was all we had. It would obviously have beaten the mothers car too, probably, unless his light was better, but it ran a 13.29 in bristol of all places. So mathmatically that makes two it would beat.....which is way more then ANY.

LOL.....like I d race a zr1 and get a win light with full size van and not take credit? Come on....I built it and I drove it.....part van, and part driver won the race, which I believe is what it takes to win ANY race.

BTW, the 11.25 one....thats fast, and awesome, but just like everyone can say tthe vegas car should be faster....I can say that car would be slower in vegas....His fisrt pass 11.6 then 11.4....so lets say 11.5, that could turn into a 12.5-12.75 in vegas....coupled with even worse traction....gets her right into the low 13's...and what do you know.....

Besides,who says the van cant go faster even ( i ran with a passenger and the bench seats, an spare and stuff, I could probably ditch close to 500 lbs).....It picked up 1.5 seconds in a week with out so much as touching the boost controller.

Obviously the van is not the end all be all of anything...but it is fun as hell, and it did beat one zr1 that new he was racing, that got the opurtunity at a fair start, and had no mechanical issues. Mistakes happen , I limited my mistakes and maximized the vans potential, while the zr1 did not, so it lost.

The problem is the zr1 itself makes it hard to maximize its potential at all...given the brake size and available tires. Just like I cant make the van scale 3000 lbs.
I didn't contradict myself. You just seem to have a shaky grasp on English. I feel your attitude of "I can beat ANY ZR1" is downright stupid. I DIDN'T doubt you beat ONE ZR1.....but claiming "I can beat ANY ZR1" insinuates you can beat ALL ZR1s. Do you understand this? Is English not your first language?

And the mother's car you speak of being slower than your car actually ran a fast ET than you too....right? Or did I miss the numbers?
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I think what I SAID was that in a 660 ft race, with any zr1 I would take my chances....and since it would be my decision, why dont you just let me live in my fantasy, it effects you in no way.

If I could line up 5 typical zr1 owners, the outcome would be tragic for them in 660 ft. What did they make 2000 of them....and about 30 to 50 of them have 11 sec passes, somewhere else.....besides, the 5000 ft air and 110 degree heat that really helps out a blower car with the blower nestled in the engine.........hmmmm..... I guess thats why I live in vegas and you dont, I like a good gamble.

Ofcourse, I guess next time, Ill have to take the bench seats out and the passenger to be more ready....maybe even get the wideband working.....and actually locate that boost controller to play with.
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Rock on. Again, bad ass rig! I would love to be in the crowd to see that bus whoopin' on the muscle cars. Classic.
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Cool video, but most of your 6-speed drivers out here in Vegas can't drive. Guess I should have brought my Vette out that night and let some people see how it is done. Think I might start a 6-speed driving school. haha Good kill Jon.

Will, when are we going to run the Vettes???
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LOL at the street racers that seem to have never REALLY street raced. We aren't talking about gay street racing from a 60 roll. We're talking dig racing. Let me start by saying that it has to be very demoralizing to have 5 cars put on you out of the hole by a bus full of people. It makes you frustrated and causes you to try to overpower your car when you should be pedaling which just makes it worse.
This is exactly the truth!

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Enough bench racing, someone find me video of a stock ZR1 at the track on the stock tires, I can't find any. So you my want to bash on this ZR1 driver, but he did take it to the drag strip and try.





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and it did beat one zr1 that new he was racing, that got the opurtunity at a fair start, and had no mechanical issues
I don't know about you but when I'm at the the track for test and tune, I could care less what the guy in the other lane is doing. The driver was probably more concerned with getting the best launch/et he could out of the car. Hence the slow reaction time.
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The driver was probably more concerned with getting the best launch/et he could out of the car. Hence the slow reaction time.
this was not a test'n'tune, and you would hafta meet the driver to say that. i did, he was just straight inexperienced, period. which like john said, is the case for the typical zr1 driver.

i dont understand why everyones making excuses for the zr1 driver, he wasnt trying to make excuses. he said, and i quote, "i just got embarrassed in front of a stadium of people, by a van"

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I don't know about you but when I'm at the the track for test and tune, I could care less what the guy in the other lane is doing. The driver was probably more concerned with getting the best launch/et he could out of the car. Hence the slow reaction time.

The funny part is that even in that video, the OWNER didnt drive it.

Actually, I was tuning the van on the side of the lanes, and the vette was sitting there. I asked a guy at the window asking quetions to ask the vette to race, as a grudge race. He accepted, because no one wanted to race the zr1 anyways. The vette guy was straight up cool. He gets all the respect from me for even taking the vette to the track. It was doomed to suck ....no matter what. Poor traction......extreme heat, with a blower car......who ever drove it, woud have thought, why isnt it faster. It had everything going against it. Ive limited those problems with the van.....by awd, to water/meth and a giant intercooler and low compression.

and it worked well.

The best part is, the van drive nicer and smoother then bone stock.
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I'm lovin' that turbo'd AWD van. That thing will embarrass a lot of fast iron from stoplight to stoplight, especially at your altitude and temperatures. Reminds me so much of my early days with my Syclone...I'd go to the street races and sit at the starting line yelling "NEXT!" out the window. I'd tell whoever pulled up next to me to "just leave when you're ready". I had buddy who ran 2 full seconds quicker than me, and trapped 20mph faster, who couldn't come by me until well after half track, and that's with me giving them the move! No doubt, that van could hold off most most stock ZR1's in a 660' street race.
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Awesome van!! I love the sleeper factor!!
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"The Van" teaches a valuble lesson. Races aren't won by money. Blood, Sweat, and knowing to to fucking drive when the light turn green. I say "The Van" blew the doors off the ZR1 because "The Van" has real wrench invested, not a brochure that states GM's HP and TQ rating. My hat's off to "The Van"
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Weeellll, like you said, a win is a win, but the vette was so slow off of the line it looked like he was SPOTTING him!! Not a very good driver...
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A win is a win not matter what, You race someone and miss a shift...You Loose, You spin...You Loose, Your reaction time is slow....You LOOSE... no matter why the vette lost, 20" tires, putting CD's in the player at the light, He LOST!! and the reason the van can probably take most cars on the street is because he has just enough horsepower to be able to floor it and hook. All the horsepower in the world will get you no where if you cannot put it to the ground. My Z put down 648 RWHP and let me tell you, From a dig a cammed car with around 400-450 RWHP would jump me bad, why? I would be spinning while he was hooking...
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Good race man...that video is great too. I used to live in Vegas and those MM nights would suck this time of year. My SS bone stock ran a best of 13.8@ 101.xx in November when it was a little cooler, usually ran in the 99mph range and 13.9x with 2.1x 60'. The track was always a little slick and the roads were much worse. I remember driving to my house on many occasions and punch it at around 25mph and almost lose it when the car downshifted and started to spin because of the dust on the roads. I got smoked by an AWD car from a stop sign because I did not move...and he was gone. Left a nice smoke cloud though. I would like to see that van run down here in some good air.
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