Looking for 650-750whp or more on E85 - help with fuel setup?
09-12-2010, 10:11 AM
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Looking for 650-750whp or more on E85 - help with fuel setup? Looking for 650-750whp on E85! This setup is actually on a turbo 3800 that currently makes 500whp on pump gas. Currently have an in tank Racetronix pump with a rewire.
Was piecing together a setup with a beefier in-tank pump and a Boost-A-Pump but Im worried about adding more points of failure since the only failures I ever had on this car were fueling related. Been looking at multiple different kinds of in line pumps from Magnafuel, Aeromotive, and Bosch. Looking to maybe go overkill to avoid fueling issues all together so Ive been looking to piece together an Aeromotive (or similar) fuel setup and this is getting expensive FAST after factoring in all of the filters, AN lines, etc!
Was looking at something like the Aeromotive A1000 and have been assuming it would do 700whp pretty easy on E85 but the setup is just so damn expensive. Ive done some ghetto math using calculators and Im pretty sure the A1000 or the in tank pump on a Boost-A-Pump would be sufficient enough to feed that much E85.
Ive got a buddy that is recommending I just throw a Bosche 044 in line with my current pump saying it will be plenty for 700whp on E85. This route seems to be the cheapest. After a quick Google search and looking around the internet it seems like there are a decent amount of setups (imports and domestics) doing 600whp or so with either a walbro 255 or their cars stock in tank pump AND a Bosche044 on E85.
What are you guys running? Thoughts?
Was piecing together a setup with a beefier in-tank pump and a Boost-A-Pump but Im worried about adding more points of failure since the only failures I ever had on this car were fueling related. Been looking at multiple different kinds of in line pumps from Magnafuel, Aeromotive, and Bosch. Looking to maybe go overkill to avoid fueling issues all together so Ive been looking to piece together an Aeromotive (or similar) fuel setup and this is getting expensive FAST after factoring in all of the filters, AN lines, etc!
Was looking at something like the Aeromotive A1000 and have been assuming it would do 700whp pretty easy on E85 but the setup is just so damn expensive. Ive done some ghetto math using calculators and Im pretty sure the A1000 or the in tank pump on a Boost-A-Pump would be sufficient enough to feed that much E85.
Ive got a buddy that is recommending I just throw a Bosche 044 in line with my current pump saying it will be plenty for 700whp on E85. This route seems to be the cheapest. After a quick Google search and looking around the internet it seems like there are a decent amount of setups (imports and domestics) doing 600whp or so with either a walbro 255 or their cars stock in tank pump AND a Bosche044 on E85.
What are you guys running? Thoughts?
09-12-2010, 10:27 AM
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1 Walbro 255 will not get you to 500rwhp on E85, but I do offer a twin intank setup that will get you past 750rwhp on E85 without a boost-a-pump.
You did not mention the type of car you have, but I have done dual intanks for GXP's before as well as many other vehicles.
I also can put together a complete fuel system with E85 compatible lines etc.
Feel free to give me a call for more info & I can get you something to suit your needs.
You did not mention the type of car you have, but I have done dual intanks for GXP's before as well as many other vehicles.
I also can put together a complete fuel system with E85 compatible lines etc.
Feel free to give me a call for more info & I can get you something to suit your needs.
09-12-2010, 12:11 PM
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1 Walbro 255 will not get you to 500rwhp on E85
Car is actually a 97 Grand Prix. Canister/pump and tank setup should be just like the GXPs I think.
09-12-2010, 12:59 PM
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The W-body bucket is almost identical to a 99+ LS1 F-body so I'm sure lonnie can hook you up
09-12-2010, 05:46 PM
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Any info from the DIY guys out there? Talked to him... drop in kit would be nice but I got to thinking about it. I can do the dual 255s myself like the writeup and then plumb new larger hard line if my stock line turns out to be too small. Hmmm.... 
09-12-2010, 08:33 PM
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DIY is an alternative...
You may save a few $$, but the learning cure & time spent is worth quite a bit if you have to do it twice. I only mention this as I get a ton of people that built their own, have problems & then came to me afterwards.
My kits include a plug-n-play wiring harness with weatherproof OE connectors, relays & fuseholders, plus the proper fuel rated wire with & teflon hoses.
If I can be of help, please let me know.
You may save a few $$, but the learning cure & time spent is worth quite a bit if you have to do it twice. I only mention this as I get a ton of people that built their own, have problems & then came to me afterwards.
My kits include a plug-n-play wiring harness with weatherproof OE connectors, relays & fuseholders, plus the proper fuel rated wire with & teflon hoses.
If I can be of help, please let me know.
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09-14-2010, 10:21 PM
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To be honest I considered doing the DIY for a twin in tank, but considering everything that Lonnie provides as far as wiring harness, connectors, and relays already setup and ready to just plug and play I really couldn't see any reason not to buy his pump kit. He provides excellent customer service and the hours you save hunting down the right electrical connectors, relays, etc and then wiring it all together is well worth the added price over a DIY.
As for the rest of the parts, fuel line, fittings, filter, regulator, rails etc... I can see doing that DIY, just don't go cheap on some generic hose, make sure you get a quality line made to handle the fuel, especially if you plan on running E85, PTFE or Eaton Aeroquip AQP are two options made for this task.
In the end I was able to save some money sourcing the parts tank forward, but have the peace of mine knowing there is a quality wiring kit providing power to the pumps and I didn't have to chop up the old wires to do it.
As for the rest of the parts, fuel line, fittings, filter, regulator, rails etc... I can see doing that DIY, just don't go cheap on some generic hose, make sure you get a quality line made to handle the fuel, especially if you plan on running E85, PTFE or Eaton Aeroquip AQP are two options made for this task.
In the end I was able to save some money sourcing the parts tank forward, but have the peace of mine knowing there is a quality wiring kit providing power to the pumps and I didn't have to chop up the old wires to do it.
10-18-2010, 11:07 PM
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Maybe my setup was the exception rather than the rule, but I made 518rwhp and 523rwtq running e85 on a dynojet running a single 255 intank and a main feed line (no boost a pump). But I am going to be going with a dual intank to spray.
