Im converting first thing in the spring, I have unlimited dyno time so i will play around with the PE AFR/timing a lot. All I need is a set of 42 lb injectors. BTW 92 octane is ~2.30 around here right now, E85 is about 1.75, and there are stations everywhere.
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But most importantly, could you still see yourself peeing in her butt in 40 years?
Runn, did you change the injector pulse width at all?
I have lowered the short pulse limit, from 4 to 3. I have some funny values in the VE-table on decel but i havn´t been able to fix them, Lowering the pulsewidt didn´t help. I didn´t have any problems with stock injectors and E85 so it must be something with the Bosch green tops that i havn´t figuered out yet.
__________________ Black Pontiac Trans Am WS.7 - Runs on E85 And soon to be powered by Twin Turbos.
Hello from Sweden.... How to run your LS1 on E85
E85 is probably going to be higher priced and harder to find in most states than 93 for now at least...but in the long run when more plants are producing it and more stations selling it there is no way that it can be higher priced that 93. So I'm figuring it would be a wise decision in the long run to have a car that runs off of E85 although it would most likely be a pain in the *** for a while...GREAT write up by the way runn!
__________________ 08 GMC Sierra Crew Cab 02' Silver Trans Am - SOLD Mods - FLP headers, Corsa CB, SLP Flow Pac, MSD wires, Diablo Predator, TR55's, Konis, Strano springs, 18" C6's, 5% tint...I'll never be done though.
FYI E85 was 1.73 today at the local kwik trip. Thanks for the response Runn, im going to look for a set of 42's over the winter. car is in storage now.
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But most importantly, could you still see yourself peeing in her butt in 40 years?
No, I dont think so. I cant promise you anything but i still have heard of anyone who have had a problem and i read at the swedish E85-forum on a steady basis. Several 1000s of cars have been converted in Sweden and still no problems with the fuellines. It´s just an old myth and people who confuses ethanol with methanol.
1. Yes this is a problem. They are not yet using E75 in Sweden but they are talking about it. But it looks like this is the system thats going to be used.
But since i dont use my car in the winter it´s not a problem for me but i understand that it might be different in USA.
But the Lambda adjustment doesn´t have any problems with compensating for the small different between E85 and E75. You already have pumps with E10 (and there are talking about E20 correct?) and pumps without and the cars are adjusting for the difference without trouble.
We have a HUGE carpark with cars that have been convertaed be the owners themself and we are trying to convince the goverment not to use E75 or atleast give us the option to decide for usself which fuel to use.
2. Yes, Water contamination is a problem, I agree.
It would be really interesting to see a test done on an open and closed fueltank, How long time it takes for the E85 to suck up water from the air to the point to it is dangerous to use. It might come in the future, But up til then keep your fueltanks closed I only damage i have seen from E85 yes is a rubber hose that couldn´t take it on my -82 Datsun Yes it is possible to run it on E85, Hell i even run my lawnmower on E85. I just wish i had a Turbocar to experiment on. Since E85 is perfect for boost, I have many friends here in Sweden with forced induction that use E85... Thanks to the cooling effects and higher octane you can use alot more boost.
Just look at the Saab 9-5 Turbo with Biopower engine (big seller here in Sweden) that when it is fueled with E85 gives 20% more hp and 16% more torque compared with regular gas.
Water contaminated fuel from the pump isn´t much you and i can do anything about but hoping the gascompanies have there shit together
Is E85 more toxic or dangerous than gasoline?
No. 100% ethanol (not 100% E85) can be and is ingested by human beings. The fuel ethanol must be "denatured" with gasoline or a bitter agent to prevent ingestion. Also, ethanol does not contain the harmful carcinogens and toxins found in gasoline.
Statement below is taken from the flextek page. If I have a gasoline vehicle and convert it to alcohol, am I going to damage the engine?
No. There are currently over 50,000 vehicles on the road using the FlexTek to burn alcohol fuels. There have been no reports of engine damage due to the conversion. In fact, burning alcohol instead of gasoline has been shown to decrease engine oil contamination and extend engine life. Alcohol burns cooler than gasoline providing additional benefits in terms of engine life and performance.
__________________ Black Pontiac Trans Am WS.7 - Runs on E85 And soon to be powered by Twin Turbos.
Hello from Sweden.... How to run your LS1 on E85
I would totally rock the ethanol, but theres nobody that sells the stuff in NY. Youd think the number two smog nazi state in the union would jump all over it...
look familiar?? got a couple of people giving the other side of the story.
Perfect...
Here is a tip that goes for almost anything in life. Always listen to both sides then make up your own mind based on the information you have. I have no gain trying to convince people to use E85. But the oil industri have alot of money to lose if people find E85 useable, just read this link http://www.e85fuel.com/news/101206_api_release.htm
"it’s clear that Big Petroleum see renewable fuels as competitors and that is unfortunate for their shareholders, the environment, and ultimately the American people"
BTW here is a link to an international part of the Swedish E85 forum http://etanol.nu/forum/viewforum.php?f=42 you can post questions there if you like. If it is against the rules to link to other forums, PM me and i´l remove it.
Excellent: Will tolerate years of exposure.
Fair: Some signs of deterioration after one week of exposure.
Good: No damage after 30 days of exposure, should tolerate several years of exposure.
Poor: Deteriorates readily.
NOTE: All tests were made with liquids at 122 deg F.
Compare Gasoline to Ethanol and make your own decision.
__________________ Black Pontiac Trans Am WS.7 - Runs on E85 And soon to be powered by Twin Turbos.
Hello from Sweden.... How to run your LS1 on E85
BTW a converted Firebird http://www.bio-etanol.se/ it´s all in Swedish but press "konvertering" and you´l see a pic of it. All they have done to convert it to E85 is increase the fuelpreassure everything else is stock. And it´s an old -92.
__________________ Black Pontiac Trans Am WS.7 - Runs on E85 And soon to be powered by Twin Turbos.
Hello from Sweden.... How to run your LS1 on E85
I only damage i have seen from E85 yes is a rubber hose that couldn´t take it on my -82 Datsun 
