8.8 Build

98silvertacrbn · 08-03-2009, 11:18 PM

Here is my attempt at building a low cost rear.
First off out with the old 10 bolt

I started with a 8.8 housing out of any 79-98 mustang then i welded the 10 bolt bracket to the housing . With the pinion set at 0 i welded the lower control arms on to the rear at 15 degrees negative and 0 for the spring perches. I cant remember what the measurements were between the lca but i think anyone attempting to do this can find out.

I got a great deal on a ford 31 slpine trackloc carrier and 410 motive gears for 150 shipped. I went with moser 31 spline axles in stock 94 to 98 mustang length and with no abs rings for $290 shipped and this make the total width of the rear 61" 4" narrower the a stock 10 bolt!
I'm going to start out using a short arm ladder bar setup welded to the lca,but maybe i will make a torque arm mount this winter. I started with 1" cold formed seamless dom tubing and 3/4 weld in bungs,3/4 forged qa1 rod ends for the links to control axle wrap and pinion angle. Then just some mild steel for the brackets cut and drilled the way i needed them to fit around the rod ends!

Now for the brakes i used stock gt brakes from a 94 model. I honed out the bolt holes a little larger on rotors to accept the 5x4 3/4 pattern. Then i modified the emergency cable brackets and lines to make the emergency brake work it hard to see but i cut all of the bracket off accept the side shown. I cut the end of the cable also the part that goes over the hook on the ls1 brake setup so that there is just a small piece left to hook on the mustang style brake setup

Now for wheels i went with billet specialties in 15x3.5 in the front and 15x10 with 5.5 backspacing look at the clearance of the mustang brakes

The stock driveshaft works with this rear with a crossover u joint a precision 355 found at oreillys

Now for some pics of the rear in the car with loaded suspension nothing on the ground yet i'm still working to get to that point

I will say i think this is a perfect fit for what i wanted
now i will run the price of everything i bought
8.8 housing 50 bucks
axles from moser 290 shipped
410 gears and 31 spline carrier 150 shipped
misc. ladder bar setup 80 bucks
brakes from junk mustang with backing plates 40 bucks
u joint from oreillys 20 bucks
and i had master install kit left over from my mustang days
total 630 dollars - 275 that i got for the stock 10 bolt making this build cost me 355 bucks and some labor! you cant hardly do a gear change for that

98silvertacrbn · 08-03-2009, 11:20 PM

a couple more pics

Hugger · 08-04-2009, 04:00 AM

Great work! Can you tell any difference now that you don't have a torque arm. I have always wanted to try a mini-ladder bar setup like you have there.

Why don't you get started building one for me!

SoxXpupPeT · 08-04-2009, 05:54 PM

wow thats some great work you got there! id love to do something like that. i too and a welder and a fabricator but idk if i have the capabilities to tackle a job like that. id love to have an 8.8 tho. i fear my 10 bolt isnt going to last much longer

2SLO4ME · 08-04-2009, 06:58 PM

Looks awesome! Subscribed!!!

98silvertacrbn · 08-04-2009, 07:41 PM

I think the hardest thing was getting the car at 0 so i could set the pinion angle at ride height

98silvertacrbn · 08-04-2009, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SoxXpupPeT

wow thats some great work you got there! id love to do something like that. i too and a welder and a fabricator but idk if i have the capabilities to tackle a job like that. id love to have an 8.8 tho. i fear my 10 bolt isnt going to last much longer

If you can weld and have common knowledge you can do this. It's really not that hard just putting parts together the hard parts done someone to figure out all the problems with the swap which i already did all the research for what you need. but i am still waiting on how good the ladder bar setup is going to work. A lot of people on here says it works but hits the tires a little hard so ill see how that works out.

SoxXpupPeT · 08-04-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 98silvertacrbn

If you can weld and have common knowledge you can do this. It's really not that hard just putting parts together the hard parts done someone to figure out all the problems with the swap which i already did all the research for what you need. but i am still waiting on how good the ladder bar setup is going to work. A lot of people on here says it works but hits the tires a little hard so ill see how that works out.

id hope so id love to have a 8.8 in my f-body. keep us updated because i might be feeling confident enough for this one day lol

MelScrilla · 08-05-2009, 12:08 AM

sweet setup i know Cam a member on here was selling 8.8's for the f bodies but i think the DIY setup is great.

98silvertacrbn · 08-06-2009, 01:59 PM

Ok drove the car yesterday and i will say that i am impressed! It hooked a lot better then my old rear and this one has 4.10 in it. No wheel hop what so ever! also i am not running a rear sway bar at the moment to see how that works. The car holds the road and goes straight down the road under acceleration i am real happy with how it turned out. Oh for those that are worried about how noisy this set up is on the street i will say that it's quiet i have some crappy cell pics of the car down off the jack stands

96lt1m6 · 08-06-2009, 02:31 PM

Great job....it does look like it would be a problem with a rear sway bar do to the upper link but it could be the pics that gives that look. i wonder if that set up would cause problems for certain class races though?!? none the less great work

98silvertacrbn · 08-06-2009, 08:03 PM

When i drove it yesterday the body didn't seem to roll like i thought it would, and that's without a rear or front sway bar i leaving them off for now. I will say that this rear is lighter than a 10 bolt rear and a hell a lot stronger!

96lt1m6 · 08-07-2009, 02:51 AM

essentially this is what you constructed
http://www.g-forcesuspension.com/pag...og/i.php/81/55
for alot less, kudos bro

Awake455 · 08-07-2009, 10:45 AM

Wow, solid unvented rotors.

98silvertacrbn · 08-07-2009, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Awake455

Wow, solid unvented rotors.

Wow i dont think ill be doing much road racing with this setup

but i can always upgrade that for 100 bucks

Neenjah · 08-07-2009, 08:58 PM

could I get measurements of stuff? did you re-locate the panhard?

98silvertacrbn · 08-07-2009, 11:14 PM

I took all the measurements from my 10 bolt and set it up that way. The panhard bar is in the same location as stock, so are the lca mounts the narrowed housing means that the lca mounts and spring mounts move closer to the backing plate. No measurement has changed from stock just the width of the housing

Neenjah · 08-08-2009, 10:15 AM

i meant stuff like the mini ladders and bracketry.

how do i get my 8.8 @ 0* and such for propper placement of the ten bolt stuff. also what was the overall length of your 8.8 backing plate to backing plate.. mines freaking narrowed i think.

wymanh · 08-08-2009, 02:30 PM

When do you plan on going to the track with it?

Rickys S/C Z28 · 08-08-2009, 03:50 PM

nice man i lode my 8.8 but now i wish it was a 4 link like the one you have!!