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99trans am (Under the knife block is at HKE) SQR tuned/built,H/C,Circle D stall, SLP Loudmouth,BMR/Spohn suspension ,2005 Duramax crew cab dually,and a 1984 65 passenger school bus (party bus haha)
If my 1999 ss had seat belts that retracts when i got out i pick my 4th gen. Does anyone know if the seat belts actually work on a 5th gen? If they do i pick the fifth gen.
For looks alone I think the 98-02 WS6 is the best looking car. Performance and handling I think the 2010 Camaro wins. For a street car and daily driver the 2010 camaro wins again. For a drag racing track car the LS1 fbody wins.
So overall I think it's a toss up. Either way you're going to have a fun car that won't dissappoint and will turn heads. So IMO there is no wrong choice but rather two right ones
__________________ 1999 Pontiac Firebird Formula ("The Chicken Hawk")
Streetsweeper cam (236/240 112 lsa), Fast 90 intake, NW TB, Lucas 42# injectors, Powerbond underdrive pulley, TSP lid, FRA, Dynomouth exhaust, Pacesetter LT headers, ORY, Circle-D 5C 4400 stall, Performabuilt level 3 4L60E, B&M 24K transmission cooler, Motive 4.10 gears & Dyno Tuned by Mike @ New Era Performance
The new Camaro is AWESOME. Rear drive 426hp. Never thought the day would return. Futuristic styling with enough retro cues to easily I.D. it from 200 yds.
If this poll was taken in June 1992, the voting would likely be 84% in favour of the 3rd gen vs. 16% for the 4th gen.
I prefer the WS6 over just about anything. But I understand it takes a while for the new age stuff to win people over. Especially when you have such die hard fans of the LS1 cars.
__________________ Sergeant Major K: You are being counseled on your exhibition of speed in your Firebird Trans Am WS6, do you have anything to say?
Me: Yes, it was not me due to the fact I was on pass when the accusation occured SGM
SGM K: Now dont lie to me, I know what the temptation feels like, I my self drive a mustang with 300 horse power.
Me: We all make mistakes Sergeant Major.
SGM K: Sign your counseling form.
Wow... some of you guys crack me up . How could you possibly be so definite about keeping your 4th gen over a new SS without even driving one, or for most people without even seeing one in person up close? Yes its heavier than a 4th gen but it also makes alot more power and the LS3 responds even better to mods than the LS1.
__________________ '99 Z28 - M6 - Bolt ons
341rwhp, 344rwtq
ws6 looks better then a 4th gen camaro psssh the ws6 is decent at best imo. the new camaro looks good on the outside but the interior is the ugliest thing ive ever seen. i havent driven one yet but to me thats not the point the interior makes me not want to drive it i dont care if it has 426 hp to me it has to look as good as it performs.
I like the 4th gen better by far. If a stock 7-12 year old car with ~350 horsepower can run the quarter just as fast or in some cases faster than a brand new car with 420+ horsepower... They did something wrong. Very wrong.
__________________ Some people argue LT1 vs LS1... I've got both. Having a Corvette motor in both of my cars is awesome... Until I've gotta put gas in both of them too 2000 Camaro SS: Sebring Silver Metallic, Hardtop (no T-Tops), Cloth interior, 6-speed, 9" rear... Motor went boom - time for bigger and better 1995 Caprice 9C1: Former cop car, now it's mine. 7X,XXX miles, went 14.809@92.4 bone stock, fastest stock 9C1 on dragtimes.
I like the 4th gen better by far. If a stock 7-12 year old car with ~350 horsepower can run the quarter just as fast or in some cases faster than a brand new car with 420+ horsepower... They did something wrong. Very wrong.
they did everything perfectly.. its above par for all the other cars its competing with.. some sections by a lot, some slightly better, very few lacking...
and no, 4th gens dont run just as fast... or faster...
do the faster 4th gens run the same or faster as some of the slowest 5th gens? yes... but like i said, once people learn these cars it isnt going to be such a close comparison.
__________________ 00 Pewter T/A A4 - Full Weight DD - 7.40@91.7mph NA 2400DA Enough to bitch slap Ls1killer!
00 Onyx Black T/A A4 (girlfriends car) - 8.4@85.5mph NA 2400DA Converter in! New times coming! 98 Artic White T/A A4 - DD - SOLD - 7.20@95.7mph NA 2000DA spinning/no tune
Past Rides- 02 954RR, 02 F4i, 98 Z28 M6, 99 3.8 V6 Firebird, 95 3.4 V6 Camaro
I think its a tough draw...I love 4th gens and I've owned four of them....
However the improvements overall on the 5th gen are hard to ignore....
That being said...if I was going to spend that type of money I would buy a used C6.... I think Ill keep my 4th gen and pick up a C6 later....
__________________ 1994 Z28 A4 Bolt-Ons/4.10s SOLD 2001 SS A4/M6 Bolt-Ons,4000stall,231/237 592/603 111.5, Moser 9" 4.30s SOLD 1993 Z28 M6 Full Bolt Ons/ 3.73s SOLD 1998 SS A4 Single T70 Turbo http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/forced...old-build.html