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Old 10-03-2009, 10:52 PM   #21
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Because the LQ 4.0" bore in the gen III and the 4.0" (or greater) gen IV the LS1 is not the best choice to make big power..... But it is still a very strong platform and can meet many peoples goals.... I plan to run 10's all motor on my stroker when I do it and it shouldn't be too hard...... If I wanted to go faster yes I would pick another platform.....
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LS1's haven't lost any respect in my part of town.
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Considering our LS1 outruns 632" Big Blocks on 3 kits I'd say its still a bad dude.
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Because the LQ 4.0" bore in the gen III and the 4.0" (or greater) gen IV the LS1 is not the best choice to make big power..... But it is still a very strong platform and can meet many peoples goals.... I plan to run 10's all motor on my stroker when I do it and it shouldn't be too hard...... If I wanted to go faster yes I would pick another platform.....
what is big power????
im running around with 490rw and stock crank, cast piston 6.0 and unported ls2 heads with a 150-200 hit dose on occassion behind t56.
plenty for me
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The problem around here is the stupid mustang and ricer owners that think there shit is the fastest thing around town. I hate/can't STAND IT. They think our ls1's are under powered but yet a newer gto is faster. Then they get puzzled when I say I can out run them all day stock for stock. A lot of them forget the power to weight ratio, so again were just dealing with ignorance. I'm glad I got my headers, exhaust and tune and the other little things. That help keep em buried even further.
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what is big power????
im running around with 490rw and stock crank, cast piston 6.0 and unported ls2 heads with a 150-200 hit dose on occassion behind t56.
plenty for me
Damn... I'll take it!
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I think your just around the wrong crowd.
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I'm not going to go out of my way to gain the respect of some rice burning twinks that wank it to hentai mangas. The money making aspect of their ignorance is far too advantageous to give a damn. Let 'em talk. Let 'em try. Let em' cry.


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I used to think like that and finally I just came to the conclusion that some people are just retarded. And if anyone ever asks if its "fast" the answer they get from me is nope these Trans Ams are dogs.... If I spread that around are small town enough eventually I should be able to make some money
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Lost its street 'cred? I wasn't aware that you could lose it after you won it. Well if it has, what can you expect from a 12 year old motor? I'd say the LS-1 is starting to go the way of the 60's street Hemi; it had its day but it's becoming more of a legend, especially with the rice-rocket crowd with the memory and attention span of a goldfish. Now, I'm not saying that a legend can't still get in the ring every once in a while, but there're newer, better motors out there...
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Simple question. Simple answer...no.
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Nope. IMO, more people now know what a LS1 is and what it can do. With almost 13 years of kicking ass and taking names, even the most hardcore import fanboi knows what the LS1 is all about.
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Lost its street 'cred? I wasn't aware that you could lose it after you won it. Well if it has, what can you expect from a 12 year old motor? I'd say the LS-1 is starting to go the way of the 60's street Hemi; it had its day but it's becoming more of a legend, especially with the rice-rocket crowd with the memory and attention span of a goldfish. Now, I'm not saying that a legend can't still get in the ring every once in a while, but there're newer, better motors out there...
LOL about the rice-rockert crowd. They are and always have been ignorant. Proof positive that they still don't realize that with front wheel drive, physics is against them.

However, this "legend" that you speak of, is not a legend here. It gets in the ring and does some work in our street scene every single week. The LS3's and LS7's are still small in number, and the LQ4/LQ9 cars are still considered iron block LS1's, since they are in the same family of motors. The LS1 here is still very much a mainstay and a workhorse. It has not faded at all.

I'm not talking about stock LS1's with a lid and a catback. We have plenty of H/C LS1's, blown LS1's, Nitrous LS1's, etc. They all hold their ground just fine.
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then comes a big burnout and a torque steer.
What does that mean? You get torque steer in front wheels drive (or AWD)
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No way. You just have to up the ante with 402 cubes and a great head/cam combo.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^But that is not a ls1 hence my comment about the 4.0" bore......
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Considering the gen 1 SBC hasn't lost it's street cred after over 50 years, I don't see the LS1 losing it anytime soon.

Even if the newer engines are putting out more stock HP, the LS1 is still a great base to build on, just like the original small block still is.

How about the mod motored Mustangs...did they ever even HAVE any street cred??
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Considering the gen 1 SBC hasn't lost it's street cred after over 50 years, I don't see the LS1 losing it anytime soon.

Even if the newer engines are putting out more stock HP, the LS1 is still a great base to build on, just like the original small block still is.

How about the mod motored Mustangs...did they ever even HAVE any street cred??
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^But that is not a ls1 hence my comment about the 4.0" bore......
I only read the op's original post. In keeping the smaller bore it's still a great engine though likely the least powerful mod for mod, obviously.

The 2011 5.0L Mod motor (400hp/5.0L) will be better than the LS1, IMHO (stirring the pot), even smaller bore.
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An LS1 SS or WS6 hasn't lost any street cred as far as I've seen. Going on 11 years there's nothing out there (in mass quantity) that can even come close. Sure the GTO has an LS2, the new Camaro has an LS3, the C6 has the LS2, LS3, LS7, and LS9, but what to this day do you still see the most of on the street? LS1 4th gens. If you have a stock looking Z28 or a non-WS6 bird, yes nobody is going to give you the time of day. Now if you have at least some nice wheels and a nice sounding exhaust on the base LS1 car, you'll get more attention.

It's the LT1 which is the one that's fallen off the face of the earth. Talk about a huge fall, this engine used to be king. Now it might has well be a TPI 305 to most hot rodders.

Make your car not look so stock and you'll see a difference.
IDK about that my lt1 Z does it fair share of handing the ricers there ass's, along with stangs and a few big mouth people with lt1 6 speeds. Never raced any ls1 but raced mach1s an stuff never had a close race yet. I guess my car was just one hell of a factory freak. Don't you dare compare the lt1 to the 305tpi
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