hey sorry to ask, but i am looking for good cats to go on my td with lt pacesetter, and i am thinking about borla xr1 mufflers, anny suggestions on this thank you
-mike
yeah I have dynomax bullets and it is loudddd....if you wanna be able to hear when your inside your car you just a different muffler because its real loud inside the car
__________________ 99 Black Camaro SS M6-TSP Cammed,Full Exhaust,Boltons,FAST 90/90
hey sorry to ask, but i am looking for good cats to go on my td with lt pacesetter, and i am thinking about borla xr1 mufflers, anny suggestions on this thank you
-mike
Go for the XR-1's and dont look back man.
__________________ 2001 NBM SS M6 Sold 2006 Spice red GTO, M6
Do you have a pair of SHITTY "budget" heads? "Toss a FAST intake on, IT WILL MAKE IT ALL BETTER!"
Do you have a terrible head/cam setup? "Just throw a FAST intake in the mix, IT WILL FIX EVERYTHING!"
how many of you guys have lowered cars??? Mine is lowered and I want to do 2.5 duals. The thing that sucks is that the "local" shops All tell me "Your car is not supposed to have duals, its not ment for it. Any ways you already have a high performance exauhst, why would you want to change it." I already bought some dynomax bullets for it. soo I dont know. I've just been stressing about the shops. Cause the only good shops are about an hour to two hours from where I live.
__________________ 1999 Trans Am 314hp/333trq
1984 Scottsdale
2000 Mustang GT 240hp/280trq
1995 3000GT
As you go through life you need to be able to recognize when you are speaking with an idiot..you can try and explane things to them and see if they wake up..if they do not then just move on and try to find someone who is willing to do business with you. After all you are the customer..it is the business owners job to try and fulfill your request and earn your business. You may need to make some copies of the many true dual exhaust sysems that have photos posted up on here. A photo is worth a 1000 words..you can then show them that it is possible to configure a true dual system and see if they have the desire and talent to duplicate it.
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THEY ARE NOW VENGEANCE RACING & DEVELOPMENT
HP/TQ ? IT'S STOCK THEY ALL SOUND LIKE THAT
POWER TOUR 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, & 09 ... YEAH I'M GOING IN 2010 TOO
i'm lowered, dirty style (eibach saggy springs ftl). i'm going to be installing them tommorw when they get in. right now i can tell you that i cant get a coke can under parts of the car i cant run mine out the back over axle like i was wanting to...going to have to be under axle cuss those bars that center the rear end are to close to each other to allow a tubbing to go threw. BTW i'm doing 2.5 inch tubbing...in my opinion that's hell of a big improvment, dont think you honestly need 3 inch until you make some SERIOUS HP....3 inch just makes it sound alittle nicer...
i'm lowered, dirty style (eibach saggy springs ftl). i'm going to be installing them tommorw when they get in. right now i can tell you that i cant get a coke can under parts of the car i cant run mine out the back over axle like i was wanting to...going to have to be under axle cuss those bars that center the rear end are to close to each other to allow a tubbing to go threw. BTW i'm doing 2.5 inch tubbing...in my opinion that's hell of a big improvment, dont think you honestly need 3 inch until you make some SERIOUS HP....3 inch just makes it sound alittle nicer...
You can run 2 1/2 in over the axle..many have done it..there are lot of photos of cars running that type system..
__________________ Y2K NBM 6 MT Z28 CP
DYNO TUNED BY RON & MIKE @ GMMG
THEY ARE NOW VENGEANCE RACING & DEVELOPMENT
HP/TQ ? IT'S STOCK THEY ALL SOUND LIKE THAT
POWER TOUR 04, 05, 06, 07, 08, & 09 ... YEAH I'M GOING IN 2010 TOO
the rear of my car has saggy springs, not enough room. i ride about an inch away from the bumpstop, i hate it on little bumps all the time i dont have enough room to run it over, but under i do
quick question, are any of you guys worried about having the piping and mufler so close to the fuel line? not worried about getting vapor lock or anything like that having heat radiating for a good amount of length?
Sure. That's why the fuel lines have to be flipped and when running over the axle on the drivers side use high quality exhaust wrap. So far, no problems with vapor lock or melting of electrical wires and brake lines.
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Originally Posted by reject
quick question, are any of you guys worried about having the piping and mufler so close to the fuel line? not worried about getting vapor lock or anything like that having heat radiating for a good amount of length?
quick question, are any of you guys worried about having the piping and mufler so close to the fuel line? not worried about getting vapor lock or anything like that having heat radiating for a good amount of length?
I did wrap the fuel lines along mid section of the chassis with Reflecta-a-Sleeve. I just used one 3 foot section. It connects with velcro and it's lasting very well. The fuel lines are not any problem over the axle area. The issue there is with the connection box where the ABS wires go into the chassis. Also, the rubber brake lines that mount to the front of the differential. This area seperates the men from the boys when doing a custom dual exhaust. There is no margin for error.
That ABS connector (where that wire with the yellow sticker is going to) sticks out about 2.5 inches from the chassis from the factory. That puts it very very close to any pipe over the axle. Below is a picture where that junction connector has been modified to "inset" 1.5 inches farther into the chassis. A custom rubber spacer was inserted inside the car to do this. This is the maximum you can move this connector inwards. Moving it inward any farther causes problems where it will hit the lower portion of the back seat to much.
Below is a front view where you can see how the brake line bracket has been bent inwards and toward the front of the car to give if more distance from the pipe. I will also cover the rubber brake lines with Thermo-Flex Sleeve. These are made out of aluminum, silica, and stainless steel. This and ceramic coating the pipe will be more then enough protection.
Although an old picture (dirty car) this should give you and idea of the path the pipe takes when running over the axle on the left side of the chassis. This particular pipe was ceramic coated inside and out and also wrapped with aThermo-Tec Heat Shield. Because that wrap is fraying and cracking I decided to not use wrapping anymore, just move everything farther away from the pipe (above pictures). If you follow the fuel lines you can barely see where the wrapping of the fuel lines starts with heat sleeve.
i just got my entire dual setup redone, from the headers back and under the axle out the back. Cost me $500 and it looks and sounds awesome. Under the axle if perfectly fine because even with it under the back part of the exhaust still is not the low point in the exhaust. The front by the X junction and by the header is still the lowest point in the entire exhaust system.
Over the axle is a waste of $$ IMO.
__________________ 2000 T/A, M6, Black
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LS1tech mods are like the C.I.A. you can quote me on that lol
i cant run mine out the back over axle like i was wanting to...going to have to be under axle cuss those bars that center the rear end are to close to each other to allow a tubbing to go threw. BTW i'm doing 2.5 inch tubbing...in my opinion that's hell of a big improvment, dont think you honestly need 3 inch until you make some SERIOUS HP....3 inch just makes it sound alittle nicer...
