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Old 07-20-2008, 01:16 AM   #61
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I work with a guy that made one of these things and put it on a ranger and got almost 50% better gas milage. I have the plans that he used to make it. It looks kinda complicated but it works. If you dont all know mazda came out with the technology in the 80s to run a car off water but the oil companys bought the plans before mazda could ever produce it. I would post the plans on here but they are long.
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Old 07-20-2008, 02:00 AM   #62
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I work with a guy that made one of these things and put it on a ranger and got almost 50% better gas milage. I have the plans that he used to make it. It looks kinda complicated but it works. If you dont all know mazda came out with the technology in the 80s to run a car off water but the oil companys bought the plans before mazda could ever produce it. I would post the plans on here but they are long.
This may violate site rules, but Oh well. Go fuck yourself you lying piece of shit. The only reason this thread has continued is because assholes prey on people who never took physics in school. None of these devices has EVER worked, except in the minds of the people marketing them. Every single person who has EVER reported positive results is either lying or delusional. Since most delusional people have better things to fantasize about than MPG, that means that this is all marketing BS. Every single rule of thermodynamics, not to mention common sense, rule out any gains from this nonsense. (except to someone's checkbook, of course). I would happily give my 200K$ house to anyone who can prove me wrong, as I would easily be a billionaire the next week.
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Old 10-11-2008, 11:05 AM   #63
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Anyone on the site actually try this? And, yes, gametech, I took physics and many chemistry classes. I just am interested to see if this actually did anything.

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why is it so impossible that you could use electricity from your altenator to create HHO gas to be fed back into the engine. the altenator is constatly spinning producing AC current, which gets rectified into 12 VDC. If your battery already has a good charge and you arent putting a large electriacl load on the system wouldnt there be energy available for an HHO generator.


I dont know maybe im wrong, maybe the less amperage you are using than the easier the altenator spins and the engine works less. so adding an HHO kit would work your engine harder via the altenator and negate the gains in mpg. i guess a good question is whether or not there is energy produced by the altenator going unused.

i keep hearing people say that the laws of thermodynamics make this impossible, but nobody actually goes any farther than that general statement. sure the law of conservation of energy or whatever applies here. but isnt there alot of energy wasted in internal combustion engines. who knows maybe im way off, but i still am open to new ideas.

oh and i really enjoyed reading your response chocotaco, you seem to be pretty well informed on the subject.
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