torquer v.2 vs tsp 233/239

[99T/AMAN]

Well finally i have narrowed it down to one of these 2 cams. Just need alittle more input from you guys to help deside. The car gets driven pretty much on the weekends only and alot of that time is at the track or going cruising with friends or once in awhile stop light to stop light stuff. Both cams make alot of power and i am wonder if you have one of these cams can you give me your input, how does it drive, e/t at the track, how much power through a AUTO/STALLED car, etc.... Wanting to choose here in the next week or two. Thank you guys in advance for your input. P.S. I have PS LT, tsp ory, lmII, ls6 intake, slp intake flow pac, umi suspension, ss3600 stall. Let me know guys.

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i voted T2 but u'll be happier with a "El torro" cam 230/230 .612/.592 111+2 thats cam will make alot more under the curve power(TQ) and peaks close to the same as above cams proven

[99T/AMAN]

who makes that cam??

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Predator Z spec'd cam...im sure he'll chime in about this. but TSP makes it for u...its a custom grind and its well proven to out preform bigger cams

[99T/AMAN]

I know this is dumb to but how does it sound compaired to those other cams, i want it sound mean as hell to.

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well the above cams are ground on a 112 LSA and that will lope dame good...the El torro is on a 111 LSA the lower ur LSA i believe the loper it is...but i think LOPE has more to due with overlap too....im not really 100% on it...lemme dig up chris13133 thread on his results on EL torro for ya


edit --- here's Chris's idle vid with El torro

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpU-CC5OOM0

[99T/AMAN]

thanks, that will be something i am going to look into

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Cam only numbers A4 full bolt ons 421.74HP 394.29TQ...got a lifter ticking problem


thats through a 4000 stall and stock 3.23 gears too!...oh and stock heads!

[99T/AMAN]

that looks good, just hope i dont have the same problem with the pick up tube o-ring. I will have to look into that cam more also, i am still wondering on the other 2 cams, i want to hear what else to people have to say..

[RyderTA]

I don't know about the other, but I have a T2 and love it. I make 414 through a 9" with 4.11 gears but my track times seem to do pretty damn good here, even against bigger cube guys.

[99T/AMAN]

for people that have voted why did you vote that way also???

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T2 has more under curve power then your other cam choice thats 4 sure....but still El Torro will make a better street car i.e. more usable power under the curve and not having to spin the motor higher to get that power and TQ like ur other 2 cam choices

[Johnnystock]

theyll be pretty much the same I think..But I think the torquer v2 will be better under the curve. Why not the T3?..springs I guess.

[01ssreda4]

isnt V3 better then V2 for under the curve power??

[99T/AMAN]

i am not for sure, i thought the v3 u had to spin higher to make more power, i still have stock rod bolts to, i want to have the power and not have to spin to 7k till i can change those, and i have a ss3600 so i am not worried about power below that area really cause as soon as i stomp on it, it will be were it makes good power, correct me if i am wrong and also i need the opinions also, thanks

[silverLSWON]

i have the tv2 cam on a 112 and i am happy with it. i am doing an ls2 build and i am liking the results of this el toro cam. i dont mean to highjack but does anyone know wh lobes the el toro is ground on? i voted the tsp 233-239 because i hear nothing but good things about it.

[Johnnystock]

the Torquer 3 wont need to spin over 6600 max...7k is more like the MS4. I'm going with the T3 myself this spring. The T3 is supposed to be better everywhere in the curve but it requires better springs because of the 649lift on intake.

check out this thread; T3 is badass:LS1 Camshaft Engine Dyno Comparision

[dnkynrbk]

Texas speed I had that cam partriot stage 3 heads full race car 3600lb and I will 10.10 with a tci 3500 stall

[99T/AMAN]

so whats up with the 233/239, does it not make as much power, is it hard to tune, why dont people use that cam???

[Jason 98 TA]

Both camshafts should work well for you, but personally I'd look torquer 2 or better yet Torquer 3. The 3 camshaft makes power earlier & made a few more peak hp over the T2 camshaft.