I want it to be a Heads/Cam/ Intake Manifold Package. Naturally aspirated.

Can I use my currect cam in sig for the numbers? I want it to be streetable, occasional track time.

 

damn near impossible to get that kind of power with your current cam.

440 would probably be max.

you'll need something in the 23Xs, with GOOD heads and a ported FAST 92 intake for that goal.

 

trickflow top end package.

 

150 shot, keep what you got

 

so many ways to go about this.

I recomend that you call a performance shop.

 

any of the readily available big cams (ms4, trex, polluter, F15), with good heads (AFR 205s or TFS 215s) along with a ported FAST will make the power you're looking for no problem.

streetable is in the eye of the driver
but a GOOD tune is gonna be manditory, as is rear gears. and the stock 10bolt won't hold that power for long. nor will the stock clutch.

lots more to consider when building 450+rwhp than just the cam/heads to get you there.

 

i dont mean to bash but you asked for it. if you're just looking for a number then spray it and go brag about it. the question you should be asking is "what do i want to do with this car?" you cant choose the tool without deciding what job you want to do. if you want a daily drivable car then keep your cam, get your heads CNC'd (or get a set of AFRs or PRCs), an LS6 is sufficient, LTs, and a free flowing(LOUD!!!) exhaust. also you could do some things like roller tipped rockers, electric water pump, underdrive pulley, etc. i made 418 hp with a similar cam (228/230 .581/.585 112), 1 3/4" LTs, TSP true duals, LS6 intake, SLP U/D pulley, and a good tune. i had stock rockers and water pump so i'm sure i could've made 425 ish max. if you go too wild, sure you'll have a nice big number but you will hate driving the car because you will never be able yo use the power on the road. kinda like a retard with a huge pecker. he cant use it so who cares? good luck with your build and go take a look at the Dynomometer section and check some of the combos out. find one you like and use it as a model. you will save lots of money!

 

Haha Im with Teke184 on the 10bolt. bigger cam for the h/c setup. you will have to do alot to make that kinda power daily and be "streetable" Im on the same mission "streetable" 500rwhp and could daily drive. The cam in my sig prob wont stay in there. .600 lift is alot for stock geometry and 10,000 miles a year better to go with more duration and a little less lift just under the .6 mark

 

I disagree with you. Let me explain my set up. Right now It is a cam only Pacesetter LT's, Crane GLD RR 1.85 Cam lift is .589 all free mods all bolt ons except heads. My goal is to get AFR 205's milled to 62cc for more compression. I wanna go ported fast by tony mamo and My exhaust Y pipe is now flowmaster merge( No restriction) Which should give me another 20 rwhp according to Patrick G. The Y merger is a proper compared to 2 y pipes slaming into each other.

 

Check out my combo down low, I've got to get it to a dyno to see my numbers and weather permiting I'll be hitting the track up Friday to see what I can run. I'm guessing I'm probably around 430rwhp and that's quite a bit. For now anyway.

 

I'll be installing AFR 205's milled to 62cc later this month but going with a bigger cam and the LS6 intake - goal of 440 - 450RWHP. I would say with a ported intake setup (90/92) and a good tune that you could hit 440 or more. There are plenty of other streetable cams out there that will get you more power. You're going to have it torn apart anyways so why not swap to a custom cam that suits your needs?

 

**** load of ways to get to this, get a bigger cam with a nice set of heads and a fast 90/90 you'll be set, if you wanna spray that mami just keep your set up and throw in a 150 shot

 

Well, I have all the bolt-ons, a tune, all the stuff in my sig plus more. im a little bigger on the cam from what you have. i have 1.7 rockers cause the cams already .600 lift. now i am running ls1 heads and ls1 intake. im held back alot from those two things but im around the same power you have listed. its going to be hard for a set of heads and intake to get me a 100hp at the wheels. it can be close. i have seen the 205's make good power. i would change the cam out to something a little bigger. you can make the midrange so much more powerful with a different cam. but it depends on what you want. go for it with that cam you already have, its so easy to change it out later its not like you have to pull the new heads off to do it.

 

something you have to remember is dynos are all different.

just do some searching for the 224 cam. results range from 375rwhp to 415rwhp with all the normal bolt ons. cams react different on different cars, and dynos read differnt.

if you absolutely want 450+ hp....you're gonna need to go bigger.

sure some guy, somewhere, at some point, with generous dyno put down 475rwhp with a small cam and stage 1 heads...through an auto, and a ford 9"....

while the rest of the LSx comunity seems to be lucky to break 420rwhp with the same setup.

so are you gonna use the exception or the norm to establish what your built is going to consist of.

if you like how your cam runs....put GOOD heads on it and pay attention to detail. odds are it will make good power, and you'll be happy....for now

 

Thanks Man

 

good call

 

I'd go with some ARH 1 7/8ths headers as well.

 

not to be negative but i really dont see you achieving 450+hp with that setup. now if you run race gas, nasty compression, and a nastier cam then sure you could get 450ish then you're just gonna frag your rear and clutch. you should alway build from rear to front so you wont be on jackstands as much. the very FIRST mod i did to my car was a Moser 9". if you dont spray it then i dont see a 475 anywhere close. you ever think about a 383? or possibly a supercharger kit? you can keep your streetability and make close to 500hp.

 

It is very easy to get 450+rwhp with heads cam and intake. He doesnt need a 383 or NO2 or Super Charger. All he needs is a 230 cam.

 

Do I need AFR or TEA heads, they seem so expensive, what about some of the other options out there?? I can't seem to wait anymore!!