I'm not sure why you would run a breather and then still keep the PCV line that can pull oil into the intake manifold. Isn't the point of the breather to be able to remove that line?
__________________ 02 WS-6 Patriot Stg 2 l 224/228 Comp Cam l FAST 92mm l 96mm TB l Circle-D 3700 l MWC 9" W/3.70's l 3800 lb raceweight 11.41@119.12 MPH 1.54 60' 400 RWHP
Running a breather while keeping all the original PVC setup is wrong.
After running it like this for over 130,000 miles and making 452/418 and only using a half quart of oil every 5,000 miles and with no oil in the intake tells me that it is right ...
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__________________ 02 WS-6 Patriot Stg 2 l 224/228 Comp Cam l FAST 92mm l 96mm TB l Circle-D 3700 l MWC 9" W/3.70's l 3800 lb raceweight 11.41@119.12 MPH 1.54 60' 400 RWHP
WHY????? Lots of LS1s run just fine setup like that.
mass1 is correct, if you run a breather cap on the oil filler you have to cap off the passenger side vent port that originally goes back into to the TB. otherwise you are defeating the true purpose of the breather.
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Before I'd change things I would investigate as to what the real problem is. The engine made 393 rwhp at only 5700 rpm??? Post up the dyno graph,something is not right.
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It basically climbed good but at 5700 it dropped right off back down to 363. At the shop there they thought it may be the rockers playing some role in valve float. I thought with Patriot Gold springs I would be fine.
__________________ 02 WS-6 Patriot Stg 2 l 224/228 Comp Cam l FAST 92mm l 96mm TB l Circle-D 3700 l MWC 9" W/3.70's l 3800 lb raceweight 11.41@119.12 MPH 1.54 60' 400 RWHP
If it was valve float you would know for sure, your dyno graph would flatten out, not drop and it would feel like your car was just hovering in RPMs, the springs should be fine. Don't forget the converter is going to eat some of that power up, you RPM drop off could be the effect of the low duration cam. Post up your graph so we can see what you low/midrange power looks like. Pm'ing you to.
__________________ 98 Arctic White Formula.M6.VooDoo 222/228-.567"/.567"-113.Boltons.NOS. Midwest Fab 9"/Braced/Geared/Fire Engine RED N/A 391.33rwhp/353.13rwtq -501.56rwhp/462.67rwtq Slipping a 150 Shot N/A-11.709@119 1.63 60FT /150 Shot-10.863@127.53 1.54 60FT...so far.
You have something that is not right...I make 452/418 with heads/cam bolt ons using a 224/228 .581/.588 110 + 0 LSA .. I am a 6 speed but your auto should be making better numbers than that.
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You have something that is not right...I make 452/418 with heads/cam bolt ons using a 224/228 .581/.588 110 + 0 LSA .. I am a 6 speed but your auto should be making better numbers than that.
What springs and rockers are you running? I asked Fran for the graph. I will post it if he forwards.
__________________ 02 WS-6 Patriot Stg 2 l 224/228 Comp Cam l FAST 92mm l 96mm TB l Circle-D 3700 l MWC 9" W/3.70's l 3800 lb raceweight 11.41@119.12 MPH 1.54 60' 400 RWHP
What springs and rockers are you running? I asked Fran for the graph. I will post it if he forwards.
Stock rockers and PRC dual springs
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That's about right for that cam, those heads, through an A4. It's harder than some people think to break 400rwhp through an automatic with a small cam.
A custom cut cam would have yielded the same driveability and better results. The 224/228 grind is ok, but it's dated technology.
That's about right for that cam, those heads, through an A4. It's harder than some people think to break 400rwhp through an automatic with a small cam.
A custom cut cam would have yielded the same driveability and better results. The 224/228 grind is ok, but it's dated technology.
The other guy in this thread made real good power with his although I don't know what heads.
I may have track numbers before the graph. Going tonight so will post back.
__________________ 02 WS-6 Patriot Stg 2 l 224/228 Comp Cam l FAST 92mm l 96mm TB l Circle-D 3700 l MWC 9" W/3.70's l 3800 lb raceweight 11.41@119.12 MPH 1.54 60' 400 RWHP
i can't believe nobody has questioned the rockers yet.
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__________________ 02 WS-6 Patriot Stg 2 l 224/228 Comp Cam l FAST 92mm l 96mm TB l Circle-D 3700 l MWC 9" W/3.70's l 3800 lb raceweight 11.41@119.12 MPH 1.54 60' 400 RWHP
If your car really weighs 3800, then you don't even need to worry about dyno #'s. 11.40's @ 118 is nothing to sneeze at on shakedown runs in a 3800lb car.
That's about right for that cam, those heads, through an A4. It's harder than some people think to break 400rwhp through an automatic with a small cam.
A custom cut cam would have yielded the same driveability and better results. The 224/228 grind is ok, but it's dated technology.
, FRPP 30# injectors,
