You could be right tek, but I doubt you are. Think about it not evenyone can even afford their street motor. So how many would be able to pay for the high cost of the top end on that monster. Because IMHO that 500 needs a sheet metal intake with twin dominators, similar to a prostockers induction. And even though the badest heads on the market prolly wont let it breath like it needs to it is still worth a shot! And I bet you it will happen in the near future when someone comes along with enough money to foot the bill... but only time will tell.
Healthy yes, no doubt but not max effort. 650-700 rwhp sounds real impressive-with a manual trans a little less impressive-with 500 cubes less impressive still.
At 12:1cr and using it as a street/strip motor yes a nice set set up and good power, probably good reliable power if tuned well on pump gas, even on 104.
That cam is tame for that size motor. Kumar dyno'd 650/610 w/ported GM Ls7 heads and hydraulic roller on an ERL 500ci. I don't remember the size of the cam, but he said it idled like a baby.
Kumars heads were barely cleaned up, not ported IIRC
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I would love one at the end of the day. Power ,torque no need to rev it . Nice package if you ask me.
yes it is and you're right BUT, after a while you're gonna wanna rev it. If you're spending around 10k on a short block you should have room to grow. It's the nature of the racing beast. You're gonna want to step it up. You get this bottom end and until PROVEN otherwise you will have a well running reliable (only because it's hydraulic and N/A and not being pushed) set up. For 10k, that's a HUGE downside.
I keep hearing, yeah but he's running un ported stock heads and yeah but it's hydraulic and yeah but it makes great power down low. Guys-it's 10k. You can get a 481 Warkhawk sb for less than that and beat the piss out of it so why would you get this 500 over that?
yes it is and you're right BUT, after a while you're gonna wanna rev it. If you're spending around 10k on a short block you should have room to grow. It's the nature of the racing beast. You're gonna want to step it up. You get this bottom end and until PROVEN otherwise you will have a well running reliable (only because it's hydraulic and N/A and not being pushed) set up. For 10k, that's a HUGE downside.
I keep hearing, yeah but he's running un ported stock heads and yeah but it's hydraulic and yeah but it makes great power down low. Guys-it's 10k. You can get a 481 Warkhawk sb for less than that and beat the piss out of it so why would you get this 500 over that?
I agree. The ERL 500 would be great for the street but in a racing application I think the money could be better spent with a different combination. Time will tell. Someone will max out the the ERL 500 and until then we can only guess.
LS2 500CI STREET/STRIP
Displacement: 500 CI, 8.2L
Bore x Stroke: 4.200 x 4.500
Compression Ratio: 12:1
Fuel: 93 Octane
Block: LS2 / Ductile Iron Sleeves
Head: LSW ALL PRO Ported (West Coast)
Rockers: Jesel Shaft Rockers (1.8:1)
Crank: Custom Callies Forged
Rods: Custom Carrillo A Beam
Pistons: Custom Wiseco
Camshaft: 248/248 @ .050, 117LSA, 0.660" LIFT
Intake: 102mm ERL
Throttle Body: 102mm ERL Electronic
POWER: 700 HP
TORQUE: 650 FT-LBS
This build is way down on power for hp/cid for using those cylinder heads. It probably has a lot to do with the cam choice but it still just doesn't add up. The torque is good. Those heads should be good for 800+hp with no problem on that size of an engine. Those heads will make 700hp on a 427cid like falling out of a tree.
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