Automotive News, Media & Press - Revealed - Ford FR500 Cobra Jet Mustang




TriShield
11-04-2008, 02:16 PM
Forty years after its debut, a legend of drag racing is back.

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DEARBORN, Mich, Nov. 4, 2008 – In honor of the 40th anniversary of the release of the first Ford Cobra Jet Mustang in 1968, Ford Racing is introducing the 2008 Cobra Jet Mustang, now available for customers to race in NHRA sportsmen classes during the 2009 season.

The new Mustang FR500CJ is officially being launched at the Ford press conference Nov. 4, as part of the 2008 SEMA Show in Las Vegas.

For decades, the Mustang has been the preeminent car in many forms of racing, including drag racing. Adding to the rich and successful racing history of Ford's iconic pony car, the 2008 Cobra Jet Mustang is a factory-built race car that is NHRA-legal and ready for the drag strip. It is the first purpose-built race car from Ford for drag racing since the original Cobra Jet Mustang.

"The Cobra Jet is one of the transformational vehicles for Ford Racing," said Brian Wolfe, director, Ford Racing Technology. "The 2008 CJ will get us more involved with the sportsmen racers in drag racing. At this point there are a lot of little guys who are running Fords from the 60s, 70s and even a few from the 80s, but those cars aren't necessarily relevant to what we are producing today.

"Those Ford racers are among the most loyal Ford supporters and customers we have," Wolfe added. "The CJ makes a statement for our company that even in times as tough as these, we can introduce something as special as the Cobra Jet. As I guy who has tracked Ford history from the beginning and understands the significance of the CJ, this is by far the best factory drag car that we have produced."

The original Cobra Jet Mustang was conceived by drag racing legend Bob Tasca, the competition-oriented Ford dealer in Rhode Island who at the time operated one of Ford's most successful retail operations. Tasca looked to the Ford parts shelf when he wanted to upgrade the engines on some of the Mustangs that he was selling, and came up with the KR-8 conversion package for his performance customers.

Henry Ford II announced that Ford would put together several of the Tasca 428-powered Mustangs for drag teams competing in the 1968 Winternationals, where two of the Mustangs made it into the finals and Al Joniec went on to win the Super Stock championship. After the car's success at Winternationals, Ford announced that it would be producing the 428ci Cobra Jet engine.

"When I made the Cobra Jet engine available to Ford, they found out quickly how good it was and they decided to make it happen," said Tasca Sr. "My feeling has always been that Mustang should be the performance leader for the Ford Motor Company. I like performance that helps me sell the unit. What the Cobra Jet did for Mustang was phenomenal."

The 2008 Cobra Jet Mustang joins Ford Racing's stable of championship-capable customer Mustangs: the Mustang FR500S, the Mustang FR500C and the Mustang FR500GT. All are turnkey cars available via the Ford Racing Performance Parts catalog and through Ford dealers.

The FR500 series of Mustangs are race-ready cars, designed by Ford Racing engineers for performance-conscious customers, that can be rolled right off of a truck and win in competition. The Cobra Jet, as delivered, will be able to run in the 10-second range and be competitive as is, just like its sister car, the Mustang FR500C. The FR500C was unloaded for customers at the 2005 Grand-Am Rolex Series opening race in Daytona on a Wednesday, won the race on Friday and went on to secure a championship that first season.

And just like the Ford Mustang FR500S, the Cobra Jet Mustang will get its start at the Auto Alliance International (AAI) assembly plant in Flat Rock, Mich., before being sent to a Ford supplier to have additional parts installed and for final prep.

All of the additional parts and pieces for the CJ can be found in the Ford Performance Parts catalog. And since the Cobra Jet is produced from a base V-6 Mustang, any consumer can turn their Mustang into a Cobra Jet by purchasing the parts from the Ford Performance Parts catalog.

The car features a 400-hp 5.4-liter supercharged engine with a standard 6-speed manual transmission, automatic optional, and a drag race wheel/tire combination. The Cobra Jet is NHRA-legal to 10.00 second ETs and has an NHRA Stock Eliminator legal interior and is approximately 3,300 lbs. The car will also showcase a unique trim and appearance design and include an optional 2008 Cobra Jet graphics kit to distinguish itself.

The price of the 2008 Cobra Jet Mustang is $69,900. All 50 of the initial 2008 model vehicles have already been ordered by Ford dealers for delivery to customers. For those customers who miss out on the first run, there's no worry, as Ford Racing has set a goal to provide future versions of the Cobra Jet.

"We've built a Mustang for drag racing that we've very proud of," said Wolfe. "We're confident that this, like all Mustang race cars, will be competitive, and a value for those looking to enter a variety of sportsmen classes. We can't wait to see the car in the hands of customers."

The Cobra Jet will make its official public debut at SEMA on Tuesday, November 4, and production will begin immediately on the 50 CJs, with delivery slated for early first quarter of 2009. The 2008 Cobra Jet is expected to first compete in the 2009 Winternationals in Pomona, Calif., in February.

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hellbents10
11-04-2008, 04:44 PM
69k for a 11-12 second car?

Wait never mind the question mark we are talking Mustangs here.

BULLITT
11-04-2008, 05:08 PM
69k for a 11-12 second car?

Wait never mind the question mark we are talking Mustangs here.


Jealousy is a stinky cologne. :engarde:


Revelation Z28
11-04-2008, 05:51 PM
looks like it has a 9" rear

25psi
11-04-2008, 06:04 PM
There are 1000 variations of mustangs......Mey!

Tainted
11-04-2008, 09:14 PM
gaaaaaaaaaaay

99Tara
11-04-2008, 09:41 PM
Another take on a tired story...And hell they sold Cobras for that much and only managed 12s!

Red97Z
11-04-2008, 09:49 PM
seems like a new version of mustang is born every day of the week.

'00_Z
11-04-2008, 10:18 PM
Ford has to do something to keep interest in the Mustang alive, especially with the Camaro release getting closer. They can't compete with the Camaro and with the ZR1 out now they have nothing to make headlines.

WILWAXU
11-04-2008, 11:56 PM
It was at the NHRA race here in Vegas on Sunday, "revealed" today at SEMA. Neat concept. But, I can see a Camaro in my future.

unit213
11-05-2008, 07:04 AM
Ford has to do something to keep interest in the Mustang alive, especially with the Camaro release getting closer. They can't compete with the Camaro and with the ZR1 out now they have nothing to make headlines.

To Ford and GM, it's all about vehicle sales and the Mustang completely
dominates the Camaro in that regard and it will continue to do so.
They don't need to make headlines. The Mustang sells and that is the
name of the game.

I agree, that's way too big of a price tag for this car. I guess some people
would buy it for the historical significance. Personally, that doesn't mean
anything to me.

WSsick
11-05-2008, 10:14 AM
Jealousy is a stinky cologne. :engarde:

ha, sorry. that is way to overpriced and you know it. why not go buy a termi and turn it into a drag car for way less? whatever, idiots buy all sorts of overpriced cars, most just happen to buy Mustangs.

oh and GM > Ford :P

WECIV
11-05-2008, 10:51 AM
I like it a lot. Looks excellent.

W

slingshot928
11-05-2008, 04:35 PM
For that price I would hope it would have at least 550-600 hp at the flywheel...400 just doesn't do it. I mean the GT500 has 500 hp, correct? Its a shame that Ford always does something half ass, nice looking car, setup, but no motor to compete.

unit213
11-06-2008, 06:49 PM
Ford often runs their test cars at Milan. Word on the street is that this car went
10.0 @ 140mph. I can't verify that, but that's the rumor.

The Manalishi
11-06-2008, 06:58 PM
Sounds like a cool car. But as stated many times its too much money. They'll probably sell all of them before they are built to the collectors that are into that sort of thing.

NHRAMAN
11-06-2008, 07:07 PM
The Original looks much cooler.

Pipelayaz
11-06-2008, 08:09 PM
Oh looky another Mustang!

unit213
11-09-2008, 06:11 PM
Pretty cool IMO.

http://video.streetlegaltv.com/video_detail.php?mId=7484

05CherryGXP
11-09-2008, 09:43 PM
Jet Cobra? :wtf:

Snakes on a plane?!

JScamaro
11-09-2008, 10:48 PM
That car is weak. 400 hp from a 5.4 liter supercharged engine is pathetic.

unit213
11-10-2008, 08:30 AM
That car is weak. 400 hp from a 5.4 liter supercharged engine is pathetic.

Do you honestly think it only makes 400hp?

knappbunch
11-10-2008, 08:34 AM
400 hp for 70 grand? doesn't make much sense when all they did was strip the car and put in a roll cage and narrow the rearend.

06black6spd
11-10-2008, 08:39 AM
ok this is wierd, priced way off, not that they wont sell all 50 but, the challenger purpose built drag car is much cheaper

Rameon01
11-11-2008, 10:43 AM
That car is weak. 400 hp from a 5.4 liter supercharged engine is pathetic.

The car is said to run down the 1/4 in 10 FLAT, unless its under 1500 lbs I dont see how you could honestly believe those numbers are accurate.

In any case thats amazingly fast and in defense to the mustang. What other car from the factory is there that can make that time and be 100% legal to do it? Not having to buy all the safety stuff and being kicked off the track after your first run pretty conveinant :chug:

Hell, what am i saying, I'd still buy a slower Z06 or Viper anyday then a 70k mustang :engarde:

unit213
11-12-2008, 07:58 AM
10-time NHRA Pro Stock champion Bob Glidden to match-race son Billy in new Ford Cobra Jets: Nov. 20-23 Street Car Super Nationals at The Strip
Tuesday, November 11, 2008

UPDATE (Nov. 7): Bob and son Billy will stage a "best-of-three" match race here in the new Ford Mustang Cobra Jet that was unveiled at the SEMA Show this week.
Read more about the new Cobra Jet and the Glidden vs. Glidden match race in Las Vegas at CompetitionPlus.com:
http://www.competitionplus.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8352&Itemid=6
(Oct. 20) NHRA Pro Stock drag racing legend Bob Glidden will compete in the Nov. 20-23 Street Car Super Nationals at The Strip at Las Vegas Motor Speedway. Glidden will pilot PGA pro golfer Kenny Perry's Grand Am in the Outlaw 10.5 class.
Glidden was the scourge of the NHRA Pro Stock class in the 1980s and 1990s, winning an unprecedented 10 championships in 16 years, including five consecutive titles from 1985 to 1989. Bob amassed 85 national-event victories before retiring at the end of the 1997 season and is fourth on the NHRA's Top 50 Drivers Of All Time list.
The Strip at LVMS will draw the top racers from across the U.S. and Canada - including Bob's son, Billy Glidden - for the ultimate East-vs.-West street car shootout. The Pro Street class will pay $20,000 to the winner. The Outlaw Street class winner will take home a $5,000 check.

ultraz
11-21-2008, 11:45 PM
ok this is wierd, priced way off, not that they wont sell all 50 but, the challenger purpose built drag car is much cheaper

BiNGO, I think the challenger drag car was just as fast, if not faster with 500hp and was closer to 40k$

unit213
11-23-2008, 05:48 PM
10-time NHRA Pro Stock champion Bob Glidden to match-race son Billy in new Ford Cobra Jets: Nov. 20-23 Street Car Super Nationals at The Strip
Tuesday, November 11, 2008

This race just happened.

Billy went 11.0 @ 126mph and his dad missed 2nd gear and let out apparently. I'm wondering if Billy clicked it early or if he stayed in it.

19trans_am98
11-23-2008, 07:00 PM
ok so lets get a purpose built camaro and slap a charger on it...hmmm lets see low 10's anybody?

unit213
11-23-2008, 07:05 PM
ok so lets get a purpose built camaro and slap a charger on it...hmmm lets see low 10's anybody?

I'm still trying to find out what this car can really do. I guess it's been
10.80's already.

That purpose built Camaro would have to comply with all NHRA safety rules & regulations as well. It's not as simple as slapping a blower on the car. The price is a little steep, but it's pretty damned cool IMO that Ford made a factory built racecar.

smokin2001formula
11-27-2008, 08:31 PM
To each his own I guess. I personally do not like that car. I wouldn't even think about looking at it with that insane price tag for a tricked out Ford mustang. :barf:

bigblock4-speed
01-15-2009, 09:08 PM
To each his own I guess. I personally do not like that car. I wouldn't even think about looking at it with that insane price tag for a tricked out Ford mustang. :barf:

you have it wrong... a tricked out v-6 Ford mustang...

Of course- the zL1 69 camaros were a 6cyl from factory, but still they didnt cost 60+ when knew.. about 4200..

the only thing that mustang is doing- is making some neat examples of cars in the past.. cool idea.. but i wouldnt bank my money on these being a collectable car.. to each his own..

For the one thinking.. new ZR1 > cobra jet.. i bet that would be a close race.. same kinda money, wonder who would win.. ?? :D

BanditTA
01-16-2009, 07:48 AM
Just as ugly today as it was back then, seriously I just have never seen anything good looking (except for the 03-04 cobras) in a mustang.

unit213
01-17-2009, 01:57 PM
Just as ugly today as it was back then, seriously I just have never seen anything good looking (except for the 03-04 cobras) in a mustang.

Here is a buddy's old car. Does this Mustang look good to you?
If not, there is no hope for you my friend! :lol:

770rwhp

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The Batman
01-18-2009, 01:05 PM
definetly cool

LS1LT1
01-18-2009, 04:08 PM
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http://i44.tinypic.com/11kbgit.jpgThat certainly is a good looking car, maybe a little nose heavy and unaerodynamic but good looking nonetheless. :thumb:

MadIceV8
01-18-2009, 05:41 PM
unit213 What are the details on your buddies GT? Pretty impressive number. If I were to guess - Forged, cammed, meth, and ~20lbs?

unit213
01-19-2009, 07:23 PM
That certainly is a good looking car, maybe a little nose heavy and unaerodynamic but good looking nonetheless. :thumb:

It's interesting how people always find something they aren't happy with.
800rwhp makes up for a few extra pounds on the nose and for a lot of
other things. :lol: That car did 190mph in the standing mile if I recall correctly. I could be mistaken on that, but
regardless...it's more car than you'd ever need on the street.

unit213 What are the details on your buddies GT? Pretty impressive number. If I were to guess - Forged, cammed, meth, and ~20lbs?

Mods:
-'Livernois Motorsports Built 296 ci Stroker 3-Valve
-Livernois Motorsports CNC Ported Cylinder Heads
-Kook's Longtube Headers and X-Pipe w/Cats
-Corsa Axle-Back Exhaust System
-ProCharger F1A @ 19 lbs.
-Viper Spec T-56 6-Speed
-RAM Street Dual Clutch w/ Aluminum Flywheel
-Steeda Charge-Motion Plates
-Custom Suspension Package by Livernois Motorsports consisting of parts from Ford Racing, Steeda, and BMR
-BMR Subframe Connectors
-BMR Driveshaft Loop
-Ford Racing 3.73 Gear
-Moser 31-Spline Axles
-Corbeau Seats
-Corbeau 5-Point Harnesses
-Steeda Cowl Hood
-Classic Design Concepts Ducktail Spoiler
-HRE C20 Competition Wheels 19x10.5 Rear; 19x9.5 Front (Road Course)
-Baer 6-Piston Calipers / 14" Rotors
-Tuned by Livernois Motorsports

The Manalishi
01-20-2009, 02:32 AM
It's interesting how people always find something they aren't happy with.

The same people would complain if they got $1 Milllion on a silver platter because they could of gotten it on a gold one.

BLUE OVAL TURBO
01-20-2009, 12:59 PM
The same people would complain if they got $1 Milllion on a silver platter because they could of gotten it on a gold one.
:D:chug: I AGREE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MMMZ/28
01-20-2009, 01:04 PM
I watched one get sold on Speed during the barret jackson auctions that john force had drove, said he ran a 10 flat and wasnt used to the car.

unit213
01-21-2009, 11:44 AM
The same people would complain if they got $1 Milllion on a silver platter because they could of gotten it on a gold one.

But I wanted $2 Million and I said a platinum platter! :cry: :lol:

99_Z28
01-21-2009, 12:09 PM
Wow, thats alot of money for some bold new graphics and drag wheels.... :eyes:

*Edit* 10's?! :emb:




Looks like Chevy will have to come out with a car to take it out...oh wait. :D

Irunelevens
01-21-2009, 12:20 PM
You mean the $100k+ ZR1? The sports car? How about they make a real "SS" package to match the FR500 CJ, instead of calling a mildly-revamped Z28 the SS? Or make the "Z28" the barn-burner.

RaggedRides
01-22-2009, 01:23 AM
you have it wrong... a tricked out v-6 Ford mustang...

Of course- the zL1 69 camaros were a 6cyl from factory, but still they didnt cost 60+ when knew.. about 4200..



The engine alone was around $4,200, which is more than a brand new SS would have cost you. A 1969 ZL1 Camaro would run a tad over $7,000.

Even in those days, the factory built race cars were outrageously expensive.

StoleIt
01-22-2009, 02:03 AM
You mean the $100k+ ZR1? The sports car? How about they make a real "SS" package to match the FR500 CJ, instead of calling a mildly-revamped Z28 the SS? Or make the "Z28" the barn-burner.

I am sure GM will make a Camaro ZL1 again if Ford pushes them (and its financially viable). They did it in 2002, why not do it now?

88blackgt
01-23-2009, 12:05 PM
these arent intended to be raced by joe schmoe at test n tune; theyre already approved for "A" stock (NHRA), basically a class for the 3 brands to go at it. Dodge has their car built but isnt approved for a stock yet.

heres some vids, sounds mean for a little 5.4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKe2VsJdUZk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWzNFiYy-Bg&feature=channel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEBwYibejlc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmdXYxC6jeU&feature=related

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/01/ford-mustang-cobra-jet-fr500cj_6.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/01/ford-mustang-cobra-jet-fr500cj_2.jpg
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/01/ford-mustang-cobra-jet-fr500cj_10.jpg


just another stripe package huh

i hate 10 second factory cars :eyes::eyes::eyes::bang:

99_Z28
01-23-2009, 05:04 PM
:eyes:


just another stripe package huh

i hate 10 second factory cars :eyes::eyes::eyes::bang:

10.8 while being driven by 2 pro drivers... :eyes:

Yah you must really hate factory 9 second cars made 8 years ago (ZL1 phaze III). :jest: If gm puts out another super car, ford is really going to look stupid. :gtfo:

Irunelevens
01-23-2009, 05:19 PM
Yes, the ZL1 was nice too. Do you get your jollies off by knocking down SOMETHING? And "driven by 2 pro drivers" doesn't mean shit, since it was their first time driving the cars. One guy got a 10.0 out of it. That's what the car is capable of. Quit bitching :gtfo:

burnerdown2
01-23-2009, 05:27 PM
Jet Cobra? :wtf:

Snakes on a plane?!

hahaha..spilled my beer when i seen your comment..good one,lol

unit213
01-23-2009, 07:10 PM
If gm puts out another car ever again...

I fixed that for you. ;)

BAD ASS TA WS6
01-23-2009, 08:00 PM
That thing sounds nasty! Looks like it rips pretty damned well too.

Granted I'd just buy an '05 on the cheap, strip it, cage it, and throw a big motor in it for half the $$. But thats just me, dreaming about having too much time and money.

88blackgt
01-23-2009, 10:30 PM
:eyes:

10.8 while being driven by 2 pro drivers... :eyes:

Yah you must really hate factory 9 second cars made 8 years ago (ZL1 phaze III). :jest: If gm puts out another super car, ford is really going to look stupid. :gtfo:

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Cobra-Jet_210394.htm

hows that, obviously a shit driver, doesnt even know to trip the 2nd beams

10.7 hitting the rev limiter

as for the zl1 its a badass car but they made fewer and they cost more lol

this car is cool because it brings back the old school big 3 battles w/ factory cars

BAD ASS TA WS6
01-23-2009, 11:14 PM
^^^ That video obviously showed there was much more left in the car if you watched the shifting.

Irunelevens
01-23-2009, 11:26 PM
Definitely. On a perfect pass it should crack 9s, I would think.

99_Z28
01-24-2009, 01:21 AM
Definitely. On a perfect pass it should crack 9s, I would think.


Fail!

00blueLS1
01-24-2009, 01:40 AM
Its pretty cool but in my book just another mustang

Irunelevens
01-24-2009, 02:10 AM
Fail!

Its pretty cool but in my book just another mustang

The ignorance is strong with these two... :eyes:

Awake455
01-24-2009, 02:42 AM
I'll give Ford the credit for actually producing it, I'll give them credit for what the car can do.

I'll leave my thoughts about the styling of recent Mustangs out of this as I want to emphasize the above two. They actually built the damn things, and they perform. Much like the Prowler, original Viper, SRT-10 truck, even the dumdumdumdumdum...I wasn't digging the styling at all but I had to totally hand it to them for producing them.

99_Z28
01-24-2009, 07:32 AM
Definitely. On a perfect pass it should crack 9s, I would think.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Cobra-Jet_210394.htm

hows that, obviously a shit driver, doesnt even know to trip the 2nd beams

10.7 hitting the rev limiter

as for the zl1 its a badass car but they made fewer and they cost more lol

this car is cool because it brings back the old school big 3 battles w/ factory cars


^^^ That video obviously showed there was much more left in the car if you watched the shifting.

So were is this imaginary "10 second flat" run everyone is bragging about? :confused: All i've seen is 5 runs in the high 10's. Apparently that is as fast as it goes until proven otherwise. :gtfo:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf7h3lwWHBU
:funny: This is just a little reminder that ford is Gm's bitch.....

blk/slvr02ss
01-24-2009, 08:20 AM
I am sure now that Ford & Chrysler have there version of a Factory built Super Stock Car in the Mustang & Challenger they will build a Camaro version also.Eventhough i have owned 26 Camaro's i still respect the Mustang & Challenger and if the F ord could up there HP i would not mind owning a Mustang but just look @ the time in my sig w/ just 2 minor mod's i ran that fast.If you could do that w/ a Mustang GT i would own 1.

99_Z28
01-24-2009, 08:28 AM
I am sure now that Ford & Chrysler have there version of a Factory built Super Stock Car in the Mustang & Challenger they will build a Camaro version also.



Yah, we all know (anyone with a half of a brain) how that will turn out...the same way its been since the late 60's. :D:chug:

blk/slvr02ss
01-24-2009, 08:50 AM
That would be good old racing if next year all 3 were out there w/ there Super Stocker's in a new NHRA class.

Irunelevens
01-24-2009, 12:23 PM
So were is this imaginary "10 second flat" run everyone is bragging about? :confused: All i've seen is 5 runs in the high 10's. Apparently that is as fast as it goes until proven otherwise. :gtfo:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf7h3lwWHBU
:funny: This is just a little reminder that ford is Gm's bitch.....

You're a joke :gtfo:. Look at how clean that run is compared to the runs of the Mustang. It's gonna take some time for people to do the best runs. And you can't call a factory produced 9/10s car anybody's "bitch," especially if you're still running mid 12s with a bolton/cammed/stalled car :eyes:.

Irunelevens
01-24-2009, 12:27 PM
I am sure now that Ford & Chrysler have there version of a Factory built Super Stock Car in the Mustang & Challenger they will build a Camaro version also.Eventhough i have owned 26 Camaro's i still respect the Mustang & Challenger and if the F ord could up there HP i would not mind owning a Mustang but just look @ the time in my sig w/ just 2 minor mod's i ran that fast.If you could do that w/ a Mustang GT i would own 1.

People have been hitting 12s with just intake/tune on Mustang GTs since 2005. The new models have a minor power increase and 3.73s vs. 3.55s. And then the 2011 models will only have a very minor weight increase, and 400hp+. So the next few years will be very interesting.

99_Z28
01-24-2009, 12:46 PM
You're a joke :gtfo:. Look at how clean that run is compared to the runs of the Mustang. It's gonna take some time for people to do the best runs.



The mustang runs looked pretty clean to me....except the one guy that hit the limiter at the end of the track, was that a loss of almost a second from it? I think not, if thats the case my car will be in the low 11's because I was on the limiter in every gear (bad tune).


And you can't call a factory produced 9/10s car anybody's "bitch," especially if you're still running mid 12s with a bolton/cammed/stalled car :eyes:.


LOL!

That would make you everyones bitch with your candy ass 14 second bitch car. :gtfo:

99_Z28
01-24-2009, 12:53 PM
The new models have a minor power increase and 3.73s vs. 3.55s. And then the 2011 models will only have a very minor weight increase, and 400hp+. So the next few years will be very interesting.

:zzz:


By then the new camaro will have the ls3 motor...pwnd!

Irunelevens
01-24-2009, 12:53 PM
The mustang runs looked pretty clean to me....except the one guy that hit the limiter at the end of the track, was that a loss of almost a second from it? I think not, if thats the case my car will be in the low 11's because I was on the limiter in every gear (bad tune).





LOL!

That would make you everyones bitch with your candy ass 14 second bitch car. :gtfo:

Did you actually watch the videos of that Mustang running? The launch was horrible, he hit the limiter after almost every gear, and didn't have the shifting down at all. It's quite obvious to anyone that knows what they're looking at. And bringing my car into the discussion is pretty pointless, considering;
1) I never brag about how fast it is
2) I didn't imply that a factory 9/10s car was a "little bitch."

88blackgt
01-24-2009, 12:53 PM
That would be good old racing if next year all 3 were out there w/ there Super Stocker's in a new NHRA class.

exactly

cant wait, competition is good for us consumers

Irunelevens
01-24-2009, 12:55 PM
:zzz:


By then the new camaro will have the ls3 motor...pwnd!


Yes, the 3900lb Camaro will have 430hp. And the 3500lb Mustang will have 400hp or more. So like I said... it's going to be an interesting time.

88blackgt
01-24-2009, 12:58 PM
:zzz:


By then the new camaro will have the ls3 motor...pwnd!

426 hp @ 3860 for the manual vs 400 hp @ 35-3600

pwned

99_Z28
01-24-2009, 01:04 PM
Yes, the 3900lb Camaro will have 430hp. And the 3500lb Mustang will have 400hp or more. So like I said... it's going to be an interesting time.


But the difference is the mudstang motor will be maxed out with its over rated 400hp, while the LS3 is just getting warmed up at 430hp. the LS3's have so much potential they can pick up 75hp with just a cam change.... :engarde:

88blackgt
01-24-2009, 01:07 PM
But the difference is the mudstang motor will be maxed out with its overrated 400hp, while the LS3 is just getting warmed up at 430hp. the LS3's have so much potential they can pick up 75hp with just a cam change.... :engarde:

please school us on this unreleased mustang engine o wise one

99_Z28
01-24-2009, 01:12 PM
Did you actually watch the videos of that Mustang running? The launch was horrible


http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Cobra-Jet_210394.htm

Um yah, pulling both front wheels of the ground is a horrible launch...:eyes: The 2nd run in this vid is perfect except were he hit the limiter at the end which will only really affect his mph not et..

blk/slvr02ss
01-24-2009, 01:13 PM
So in 2011 the GT will have 400hp.That's were the car should be @.I don't understand why they went down in HP w/ the 94 model instead of going up in HP like the Z-28 did in 93.It is like to me Ford and GM switch back and forth.

Irunelevens
01-24-2009, 01:18 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Cobra-Jet_210394.htm

Um yah, pulling both front wheels of the ground is a horrible launch...:eyes: The 2nd run in this vid is perfect except were he hit the limiter at the end which will only really affect his mph not et..

The first run was bad the whole way down the track, and he ran an 11.0 @ 135mph. The second run the launch was better (still came out of it a bit), but the run still wasn't completely clean. If you don't think the car has anymore left in it than you need help.

Irunelevens
01-24-2009, 01:21 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Force-vs-Tasca-Cobra-Jet_200827.htm
Looks like the left lane ran a 10.3, but I can't see that well.

99_Z28
01-24-2009, 01:36 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Force-vs-Tasca-Cobra-Jet_200827.htm
Looks like the left lane ran a 10.3, but I can't see that well.


Thats the same video as this one but at a different angle, listen to the announcer....Nice try though! :shiner:
Sorry son, the car is maxed out.... :poke:


:chug:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmdXY...eature=related

99_Z28
01-24-2009, 02:13 PM
please school us on this unreleased mustang engine o wise one

Typical Ford "427hp" and run 13's :barf: What makes you think the new mustang will be any faster?



The Roush ROUSHcharger Supercharger Kit found on the Stage 3 pushes the horsepower out to 415 horsepower and 385 lb-ft torque, and the addition of an off-road exhaust system working with new specially tuned programming bumps up horsepower another twelve to the magical 427 number. This is good enough to hit 60 mph in 4.7 seconds, and the quarter mile passes by in 13.3 seconds at 108 mph.


:funny::funny::funny:

88blackgt
01-24-2009, 02:44 PM
Typical Ford "427hp" and run 13's :barf: What makes you think the new mustang will be any faster?



The Roush ROUSHcharger Supercharger Kit found on the Stage 3 pushes the horsepower out to 415 horsepower and 385 lb-ft torque, and the addition of an off-road exhaust system working with new specially tuned programming bumps up horsepower another twelve to the magical 427 number. This is good enough to hit 60 mph in 4.7 seconds, and the quarter mile passes by in 13.3 seconds at 108 mph.


:funny::funny::funny:

you're too ignorant to reason with

BLUE OVAL TURBO
01-24-2009, 03:15 PM
you're too ignorant to reason with

:confused: Why bother ?????????? Let him entertain himself with his opinions. Reality and opinions are totally opposite.

99_Z28
01-24-2009, 03:29 PM
Awww, you guys are giving up already? :buttkick:

Irunelevens
01-24-2009, 03:53 PM
Can't really argue with stupid... don't know why anyone bothers to talk to you at all.

unit213
01-24-2009, 03:58 PM
Typical Ford "427hp" and run 13's :barf: What makes you think the new mustang will be any faster?



The Roush ROUSHcharger Supercharger Kit found on the Stage 3 pushes the horsepower out to 415 horsepower and 385 lb-ft torque, and the addition of an off-road exhaust system working with new specially tuned programming bumps up horsepower another twelve to the magical 427 number. This is good enough to hit 60 mph in 4.7 seconds, and the quarter mile passes by in 13.3 seconds at 108 mph.


:funny::funny::funny:

You do an awful lot of talking for someone with a really slow car. :confused:

99_Z28
01-24-2009, 05:24 PM
You do an awful lot of talking for someone with a really slow car. :confused:


My car rules! I wouldnt call high 11's slow... :secret2:

Irunelevens
01-24-2009, 05:38 PM
So when was the last time your car ran a high 11?

99_Z28
01-24-2009, 05:47 PM
So when was the last time your car ran a high 11?

It didnt yet, but it will! Added ratio rockers, tune and tires. I have 11's in the bag.... :D

The Manalishi
01-24-2009, 05:50 PM
I have 11's in the bag.... :D

Good luck, but don't count your chickens before they hatch.

unit213
01-24-2009, 06:06 PM
It didnt yet, but it will! Added ratio rockers, tune and tires. I have 11's in the bag.... :D

That's my point. You don't even understand that your car is slow.

88blackgt
01-24-2009, 10:52 PM
11s is still slow

and youre not even in the 11s

Sarge_13
01-25-2009, 12:11 AM
Shit, my car is starting to feel slow to me. I need more fuel and more boost :(

99_Z28, people like you are why other people get the feeling that Camaro owners are so far up their own ass they can see light coming in their mouth. You need to shut the hell up and learn about what the fuck you're talking about before you go spewing bullshit again. As for the Roush 427r, its a heavy V8 car with a V6 blower which stock has already run a 12.2 @ what, 114? I forget the trap.

Gaunt
01-25-2009, 12:44 PM
It didnt yet, but it will! Added ratio rockers, tune and tires. I have 11's in the bag.... :D

Ouch... that dented any shred of credibility you had.

99_Z28
01-26-2009, 08:05 AM
I dont care what you clowns say, 11's is pretty quick for a daily driven street car in my neck of the woods....10 second cars and faster are pretty much non existent around here (NE) unlike TX or FL etc.

Irunelevens
01-26-2009, 12:28 PM
Especially ones that you can buy from the dealership that are NHRA/IHRA certified, huh? ;)

tigertank
01-26-2009, 01:02 PM
wow good debate could be 1969 by the sounds of it enjoy while we can i think someone want to change cafe avg and emissions which as we know will kill this debate for awhile!!

JD_AMG
01-26-2009, 03:35 PM
Especially ones that you can buy from the dealership that are NHRA/IHRA certified, huh? ;)

Its just too bad $70,000 buys you a car that can only go fast in a strait line. :emb:
I think I'll take a C6 Z06 for the same price, be able to run low 11s and turn.

99_Z28
01-26-2009, 04:20 PM
Especially ones that you can buy from the dealership that are NHRA/IHRA certified, huh? ;)



To bad its not a street legal car with slicks and open headers....

Irunelevens
01-26-2009, 04:20 PM
Yes... but a C6 Z06 isn't NHRA/IHRA certified to go as fast as it goes. You'd have to do quite a bit of work on a Z06 to get it up to spec, and most owners don't want to do that. These FR500 CJs are purpose-built drag racers. Just like the Challenger Pro-stockers.

Irunelevens
01-26-2009, 04:22 PM
To bad its not a street legal car with slicks and open headers....

Change tires and bolt on an exhaust system... not hard. But I just heard something about them not having VINs :confused:. So who knows.

knappbunch
01-26-2009, 05:41 PM
just like the camaro white will come with no vin numbers!

88blackgt
01-26-2009, 08:14 PM
Change tires and bolt on an exhaust system... not hard. But I just heard something about them not having VINs :confused:. So who knows.

they've got serial #s, no vin

99_Z28
01-27-2009, 07:45 AM
they've got serial #s, no vin




$70k dust collector, sounds like fun....:eyes:

For the money I rather have a Z06... almost just as fast in a strait line plus crazy handling and you can actully drive it on the street! :nod:

88blackgt
01-27-2009, 10:55 AM
$70k dust collector, sounds like fun....:eyes:

For the money I rather have a Z06... almost just as fast in a strait line plus crazy handling and you can actully drive it on the street! :nod:

ya they look like theyre collecting dust in those vids

also no one gives a shit what you'd buy, you dont have that kind of money

99_Z28
01-27-2009, 02:18 PM
ya they look like theyre collecting dust in those vids

also no one gives a shit what you'd buy, you dont have that kind of money


Factory built trailer queen for people to lazy to build there own drag car. :eyes:

Irunelevens
01-27-2009, 02:34 PM
Do you not understand why cars like this are built? You know, nevermind; I highly doubt it :eyes:.

The Manalishi
01-27-2009, 02:38 PM
The ignorance of some people just amazes me. Wow.

88blackgt
01-29-2009, 05:47 PM
back at testing a week later but hiding times now

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CgJkKpUmYE&feature=channel

badazzt/a
01-30-2009, 12:55 AM
Jealousy is a stinky cologne. :engarde:

jealously, hahaha i think i could go buy a c5 z06 for $20,000, and put headers on it and have it tuned and run 12's, then put some drag radials on it and run high 11's, for 50,000 less.

67camarors
01-30-2009, 01:14 AM
Factory built trailer queen for people to lazy to build there own drag car. :eyes:

just an fyi you couldnt build a 10.0 car from the ground up that is legal in as many NHRA stock/superstock classes as the Cobrajet for less than 70K, especially one with BRAND new everything. The LS1 cars that run in S/SS cost at least that to build to be competitive, the challenger costs 40 but last time i saw it run i think it went high 11s? not positive on that so feel free to correct me.

99_Z28
01-30-2009, 07:54 AM
just an fyi you couldnt build a 10.0 car from the ground up that is legal in as many NHRA stock/superstock classes as the Cobrajet for less than 70K.

Joke of the day?


Theres probably 200+ members in here that have 10 second nhra legal cars built for half if not a quarter of that....There really isnt that much required to run that fast.


-5-point roll bar 10.00 1/4-mile (6.40 1/8-mile)

-aftermarket axles with positive retention (c-clip eliminators)

-Transmission shield SFI Spec 4.1 at 10.99 and quicker or 135 mph and quicker (blanket is okay, no expiration date)

-Harmonic Balancer SFI Spec 18.1 (no expiration date)

-Drive shaft loop

88blackgt
01-30-2009, 01:46 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/slobtlo/FR500CJ/IMG_2148.jpg

ruut roooh 99_z28

9.80s for the auto version(c4) off the footbrake ;)

manuals have gotten to a best of a 10.16

67camarors
01-30-2009, 02:39 PM
Joke of the day?


Theres probably 200+ members in here that have 10 second nhra legal cars built for half if not a quarter of that....There really isnt that much required to run that fast.


-5-point roll bar 10.00 1/4-mile (6.40 1/8-mile)

-aftermarket axles with positive retention (c-clip eliminators)

-Transmission shield SFI Spec 4.1 at 10.99 and quicker or 135 mph and quicker (blanket is okay, no expiration date)

-Harmonic Balancer SFI Spec 18.1 (no expiration date)

-Drive shaft loop

I'm not talking about regular NHRA classes, hell mine is NHRA legal, but it takes a whole hell of alot more to be competitive in stock or superstock. thats whats im saying not any classes im talking about stock/superstock

67camarors
01-30-2009, 02:45 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v76/slobtlo/FR500CJ/IMG_2148.jpg

ruut roooh 99_z28

9.80s for the auto version(c4) off the footbrake ;)

manuals have gotten to a best of a 10.16

That thing is going to scream in A/SA, i think the world record right now is 9.78 by hal Sorenson. So it is going to be a contender right off the bat.

99_Z28
01-30-2009, 03:09 PM
ruut roooh 99_z28

9.80s for the auto version(c4) off the footbrake ;)

manuals have gotten to a best of a 10.16



:ripped:



Video/timeslip or it never happened!

Irunelevens
01-30-2009, 03:16 PM
Awww... poor little baby is running out of excuses :eyes:

99_Z28
01-30-2009, 04:28 PM
ruut roooh 99_z28

9.80s for the auto version(c4) off the footbrake ;)

manuals have gotten to a best of a 10.16



The car features a 400-hp 5.4-liter supercharged engine



This statement is bs then, you dont get into the "9's" with 400hp.... :eyes:

The Manalishi
01-30-2009, 04:33 PM
This statement is bs then, you dont get into the "9's" with 400hp.... :eyes:

I wouldn't put much value on what they supposedly make. There are cars running single digits that are "stock". The guys that run in stock classes have a very restrictive set of rules and they have forgotten more ways to go faster than most will ever know. Hemi cars were rated at 425, so were some of the big block chevy's go check out the times that they run. You don't seem to have much knowledge about the stock classes of NHRA. You should look into it, very interesting what those guys do.

INVISIBLEZ
01-30-2009, 04:50 PM
This statement is bs then, you dont get into the "9's" with 400hp.... :eyes:

Stop acting like a damn high school newbie. You obviously don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You have the shittiest cam to put in an ls1. The statement about the added ratio rockers only show you stupidity even more.:gtfo: You should be banned just for being a little bitch!

supernova1972
01-30-2009, 05:38 PM
This is awesome. I cant wait for Chevy to step up and have a 3 way war! Its been said before and ill say it again...these are the good old days!!!

supernova1972
01-30-2009, 05:39 PM
Has there been any dynoed to show how many hp they are actually putting down?

shoemike
01-30-2009, 06:23 PM
:soapbox:
What is it with the auto manufacturers rehashing old names and, designs?
The retro BS is way overplayed and i wish it would go away.
Why would anyone want a car that looks like what your father or grandfather was driving back in their heydays?

It is a shame the consumer is at the mercy of some unimaginative douche that
needs to clone someone else`s design.

unit213
01-30-2009, 07:13 PM
:soapbox:
What is it with the auto manufacturers rehashing old names and, designs?
The retro BS is way overplayed and i wish it would go away.
Why would anyone want a car that looks like what your father or grandfather was driving back in their heydays?

It is a shame the consumer is at the mercy of some unimaginative douche that
needs to clone someone else`s design.

You really don't know the answer to your questions?
The name of the game is selling vehicles. Name recognition is huge.
Why do you think Chrysler uses 'Hemi'? The damned engine isn't even
a hemi.

BTW...if you read my first few posts...I was right about the track
performance. ;)

I can't believe some of you guys are hating on a car like this.
I get the price debate. If you can't afford it, don't bitch about it.
You should still respect it's capability.

sonic blue
02-01-2009, 04:42 PM
Exactly unit 213, if you ppl haven't noticed money is short, the mo spectators, the more $ for nhra and ford. Nhra has lowered ticket prices. Nhra.com also has a spread about the cobra jet just I can't copy it here. Also cobra jet is listed already in the rulebooks and the specs. frpp is going to give 1k for a overall win by any cobra jet driver in (stock) at national events.

Getting down to it... 2 will have g force 4 speeds w v gate.. calvert racing (caltracs)
2 will have c4's w chance converters, the others in those pics of a/sa cars, ie squirrel and moose in kansas, all 4 owned by one guy.

A week we find out at pomona what they do. Then I find out myself what is real. Btw why would anyone publish times right before a big race about a unknown car? I'd show slow videos myself.

88blackgt
02-01-2009, 04:47 PM
thats lame chevy and dodge wont be joining

the 1k is cool though

it will be interesting to see how they do later this week

supernova1972
02-02-2009, 12:42 PM
thats lame chevy and dodge wont be joining

the 1k is cool though

it will be interesting to see how they do later this week

Dodge was first.

Irunelevens
02-02-2009, 12:54 PM
Yeah, but I think they're gonna need a bit more to be competitive.

88blackgt
02-02-2009, 03:45 PM
Dodge was first.

what?

supernova1972
02-02-2009, 03:53 PM
what?

Dodge released a race only Challenger. Same deal expensive, cant drive it on the street. Not supercharged though. And not as fast. Im sure Chevy will join. LS9 race only version would be cool, but an LS7 or heck even a stripped LS3 would be nice to see.

88blackgt
02-02-2009, 04:09 PM
Dodge released a race only Challenger. Same deal expensive, cant drive it on the street. Not supercharged though. And not as fast. Im sure Chevy will join. LS9 race only version would be cool, but an LS7 or heck even a stripped LS3 would be nice to see.

did you read what sonic blue said?

supernova1972
02-02-2009, 08:00 PM
oh my bad i didnt

unit213
02-14-2009, 09:28 AM
Bump to an old thread for an update...

Some of you guys are pretty funny. This car dominated it's NHRA class.
Guys have already gone 9's with just a tune.

2010 Ford FR500CJ Cobra Jet - History Always Repeats Itself
WEB EXCLUSIVE!! 41 years later, the Cobra Jet lives up to its legend.
By Michael Galimi
Photography by Courtesy of NHRA


February 11, 2009 will go down in history, not for the government bailout of the worst economic situation since the Great Depresssion, but because Ford Racing's latest entry in grassroots motorsports is atop of the NHRA Stock Eliminator world with its Cobra Jet Mustang--some 41 years after the initial Cobra Jet factory racer took home the win at the 1968 NHRA Winternationals at Pomona. Legendary chassis guru and owner of Cal-Tracs, John Calvert, drove a 2008 Cobra Jet Mustang into history.

John Calvert continually teased NHRA fans and racers online, especially YouTube viewers, with video clips of testing sessions. The videos never showed completed runs and the car was obviously working really hard on the starting as it left wheels up each and every run. Calvert entered competition with a fully-prepped and tested Cobra Jet, he wasn't looking to just be in the field but rather dominate it. He was one of four entries in Stock Eliminator who drove a Cobra Jet. He was the best of the group and qualified number two in the 84-car field. The performance was nothing short of outstanding as he ran 10.08 on the A/Stick index of 11.25. That put him 1.17 under his index, Stock Eliminator qualifies based on how much quicker (or slower) or your car runs against a given index.

Calvert mowed through 7 rounds of eliminations to reach the pinnacle of a NHRA National Event and write his name in the history books. It was 41 years after the inaugural Cobra Jet debut that Calvert repeated history. Calvert had luck on his side--he broke out with a 10.136 on a 10.14 dial-in while his competitor, Tom Gaynor went red with a -.079 light. His victory falls into the realm of being more lucky than good because Gaynor ran a 10.73 on a 10.73 dial-in.

Officially named the FR500CJ, Ford Racing built 100 cars to meet NHRA's minimum car-count standards. Ford delivers the Cobra Jet cars with a glaring 400 horsepower (nudge-nudge, wink-wink), a rating far under the combination's potential thanks to Ford Racing electronically controlling output so that it fits in the rules. Let's be realistic, the engine is a GT500 powerplant with a TVS blower, larger throttle body and MAF sensor, and ARH long-tube headers amongst some other minor details. The 400 horse rating is far less than what that engine could produce with a little bit of a workout on the chassis dyno. The cars are more than a Mustang with a hot rodded engine. The vehicles are designed for NHRA Stock Eliminator competition and fitted accordingly. The suspension and driveline are prepped for competition, albeit some minor equipment upgrades. The cars roll on Bogart wheels, 30x9-inch slicks, and skinny racing rubber. Ford even outfits the interior with six-point roll bars and lightens up the vehicles as much as possible.

The 1968 Cobra Jet is a legendary Mustang that was built to outperform its competitors on the drag strip. Bob Tasca of Tasca Ford is credited with pushing Ford to build the Cobra Jet. Tasca's desire to win in NHRA competition led him to drop a 428ci FE (available in Galaxy and Shelby Mustang) into a civilian Mustang and show what could be done. He added a 427 high rise manifold to the engine to get it to make more power. The first Cobra Jet to hit the track was at the 1968 NHRA Winternationals and it was instantly successful by winning class that same weekend.



Jamie Allison
Ford Racing

Cobra Commander
02-24-2009, 11:57 AM
That's not a bad deal at all if it's trapping in the 130s.

unit213
02-25-2009, 07:10 PM
That's not a bad deal at all if it's trapping in the 130s.

They run 9's with a tune only.

DiscerningZ32
02-25-2009, 07:58 PM
That's pretty kick ass.

I'd heard about this car elsewhere and didn't think it'd have a thread on here.

I thought that car would be stout as hell, nice to see that Ford still has it and that it came out on top.

That 5.4 S/C cobra engine is simply amazing, and that mustang looks incredibly sorted out with the results to prove it.

A well deserving win indeed.

67camarors
03-03-2009, 02:03 AM
yep pretty sweet car, its on the cover of the national dragster, its awesome