Stereo & Electronics - Sound/heat deadening on a budget...

Interested in lowering the in-cabin sound/heat from outside sources. Bought a roll of Reflectix from Lowes - should help with heat. What sound deading material should I buy? C3 Corvette guys use "Frost King" and/or Reflectix from Lowes... Would Reflectix be enough for mild sound deadening and use on door panels? Does anybody here have experience with these products? Any recommendations? I haven't opened up the Reflectix yet so I can still return it... Was only $28 for a pretty large roll. This is what it looks like when applied:
http://home.comcast.net/~chadwick.robert/Front_Carpet_Reflectix.jpg
I guess the best way to describe it is lightweight aluminum bubble wrap. It's to be glued to the body and the carpet is placed over it...

Anybody?? :D

If you want to buy stuff from lowes only, you can try peel and seal. It is asphalt based, so it might smell like tar for a while....and if the car gets really hot in the summer it might a bit also. I would personally use raammat sound deadening. I have used it and loved it. It is butyl rubber based, so it wont smell bad when it gets hot. I have heard nothing bad about it from anyone. Rick is a good guy to deal with also!

i know a guy that did his entire camaro and says it made worlds of difference. he used the adhesive asphalt based stuff from lowe's

Ok... I didn't want to use asphalt based ones from hardware stores and I didn't want to go all out with pricey stuff like raammat/dynamat (unless somehow it can be had for cheap)... Plus, all of those are heavy! :D

Ok... I didn't want to use asphalt based ones from hardware stores and I didn't want to go all out with pricey stuff like raammat/dynamat (unless somehow it can be had for cheap)... Plus, all of those are heavy! :D

raammat isnt expensive. Any deadening is going to be heavy...thats the point of it.

Yes, use RAAMMat. And stop whining about weight. It doesn't bother our cars.

Yes, use RAAMMat. And stop whining about weight. It doesn't bother our cars.

I have a V6 (see sig)... Weight makes a noticable difference... Plus, this is going to be my daily driver for a while and I don't want to blow extra money when I don't have to.

I put a layer (2 in some places) of Frost King on my drivers side door. I did it without gloves or longsleeves, so I'm waiting a bit to let the cuts heal before doing the passenger side (other projects to do anyways). It's definitely helped but I'm not sure how much until I finish the doors. At least it makes a very solid sound when closing the door now, instead of the usual clunk-rattle-rattle. I lined the side facing the cabin, and the inner side of the outer skin including the bottom where water collects (may have to remove that material in the future). Bass from that side seems to be audibly clearer but it could just be in my head.

It was $1 per square foot in a 15' roll. I used about one and a half to one and a quarter rolls on the driver side door (where the hell did it all go?!).

That cheap stuff is going to melt and fall off of any vertical surface when summer comes. I think you'll regret it. It'll also leak tar out of the sides and get everything around it all sticky.

That cheap stuff is going to melt and fall off of any vertical surface when summer comes. I think you'll regret it. It'll also leak tar out of the sides and get everything around it all sticky.

It's not tar based... It's foam based. If it falls off, I don't care. It was $1/sq.ft. and I'd rather spend the money on best-of-the-best stuff for an LSx car. It's rated up to 200 degrees. If people with Corvettes use it, I think it will work for a cheap F-body.

Good reads:
http://mikemercury.home.att.net/sound.htm
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-general/948966-dynamat-vs-frost-king.html

Hm, the search button is my friend.

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/appearance-detailing/14344-want-quite-down-your-interior-noise.html

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/stereo-electronics/56667-sound-deadener.html

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/stereo-electronics/56684-sound-deadener-installed-pics-impressions.html

Oh, that stuff... Well, foam is good, too. It accomplishes a different purpose than mass-based stuff like Dynamat. I think foam is better in general, really.

Lee,
I've done this before on my old camaro. I used Second Skin Damplifier Pro, Overkill Pro, Heatwave and Sludge. No it was not cheap but here's an idea...

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Nice. I have RAAMMatt all over, sludge inside the door panels (there's alittle RAAMMatt in them too) and behind the sail panel subwoofers and two layers of overkill pro on the floor. Awesome products, all.

Nice. I have RAAMMatt all over, sludge inside the door panels (there's alittle RAAMMatt in them too) and behind the sail panel subwoofers and two layers of overkill pro on the floor. Awesome products, all.

yeah, i tried RAAMMATT after Second Skin. I liked Second Skin much better but i really loved the price of RAAMMATT. I Found SS much easier to apply but both work great. I wouldnt hesitate using either or again.

has anyone on here used any of the FatMat stuff? its just a copy of dynamat.

its seems pretty good and its a bit cheaper that dynamat, you can get a 100sq' of it for like $140 shipped on ebay.

seems pretty decent.

I completed both doors with Frost King. Going to go back and do a little changes to the handle/lock area on the drivers side for rattle reduction (figured it out when doing the passenger door). Road noise is noticably less, the doors feel much more solid, and now I can tell how shitty the stock speakers are! :D I'm happy with the results, just not the fact that now I have to get better speakers... :nod:

What do you keep that frost king on with? Never used it but looking into getting mine done like that too.

What do you keep that frost king on with? Never used it but looking into getting mine done like that too.

Frost King is a layer of self-adhesive foam with a thin sheet of aluminum on one side. Looks sorta like Dynamat Extreme but in a roll. I cleaned the surfaces first before applying.

Not sure how much it'll help quiet down an SLP exhaust... :D All I know for sure is that a lot of C5 Vette guys use it, and it's FAA approved for use in light airplanes... haha

California...after all that, what have you noticed about the sound inside the car?

Well seeing how I leave the cutout open all the time I doubt that anyone could hear the SLP dual/dual :devil: Guessing I would have to do the whole car then to make it quiet enough. Will be doing the doors anyway.

Anybody have any experience using Lizard Skin?

I used Frost King on just my doors this weekend(inside and out). I notice less road noise. If the noise was originally a 10, I would call it a 5 or 6 now, I'm sure doing the floor will help. The speakers sound alot better, music is much clearer. When I turn my stereo up, I usually put it at 40 on the volume. It is just as loud and clearer at 35 now. I think I will use something a little thicker on the floor and rear, then put Frost king over it.

I did mine this weekend, minus the doors and it made a big difference. I used 6 rolls of Frost King and talk about nice now. Had to turn down the radio so I could hear my car - that is with the cutout open. When I took it out and stopped at the first light I came to I thought my car had died. Cant wait to see what doing the doors will do. Granted when I get on it I hear it. When I did mine it took me 13 hours since it was my first time and wanted to get it right the first time. I ran two rolls straight down from the front of the car all the way back to the trunk - one layer in that direction. Then went back and covered the parts from door to door - in that direction. Glad I used this stuff!!! Was easy to lay but one problem I had was that it didnt stick like I hoped. The carpet took care of that when I was put back in. Stuff molds easy to some curves but be prepared to cut a few reliefs to make it fit better. Other than that I am very impressed with it for what it is. Anyone have any questions about it, just do it. Well worth the time :D

Glad I used this stuff!!! Was easy to lay but one problem I had was that it didnt stick like I hoped. The carpet took care of that when I was put back in. Stuff molds easy to some curves but be prepared to cut a few reliefs to make it fit better.

Glad to hear you had a good experience. :D I will be doing the rest of my car when it warms up a bit. Did you prep the surface by cleaning with a multipurpose cleaner like Windex? I noticed that it has some very very minor adhesion problems if the surface is dirty (more than a minor problem) or the ambient/material temperature is on the cool side (minor problem). And yep, I had to cut reliefs all over the place - the aluminum doesn't like to stretch too much. :)