Automotive News, Media & Press - My Idea to help out the big 3.
RoysTransAm
12-04-2008, 12:22 AM
Instead of just giving the big 3 a big massive bailout, how about, if(and thats a big if) the big 3 do come up with a plan to cut costs and what not, that the government offers the consumers tax breaks for purchasing American Brand vehicles made in America. They've done this already with buying hybrids, but I'm talking about any car made here, buy Americans, under an American company. And it would have to be a substantial amount too. I'm talking $2K-$4K +no sales tax on the vehicle(ever!) that you could claim on your end of year tax form. I'd rather help out the big 3 by increasing their sales then hand them billions of dollars and then have more bail outs again in a year and then have them go under anyways.
StoleIt
12-04-2008, 02:24 AM
Ha. The day America does that we would be...well pretty much every other government that adds fee's to foreign made cars.
And that just wouldn't be American!!!
/sarcasm
2002_Z28_Six_Speed
12-04-2008, 01:12 PM
All of the plans they have offered Congress so far have been super sketchy. They have no idea how to save themselves or what to do in order to cut costs. It's like giving Mount Rushmore a face lift. Once the system is up and running its just so hard to change. The corporation is too big.
WSsick
12-05-2008, 12:40 AM
All of the plans they have offered Congress so far have been super sketchy. They have no idea how to save themselves or what to do in order to cut costs. It's like giving Mount Rushmore a face lift. Once the system is up and running its just so hard to change. The corporation is too big.
true but i think OP has a great idea. i thought about this not too long ago, and so have alot of people. doesnt seem so bad, would really make people think twice and look a second (or maybe first) time at GM/Ford/Chrysler products.
RoysTransAm
12-05-2008, 11:53 PM
Just offload all the domestic vehicle tax over to the import vehicle tax.
Kevano26
12-06-2008, 05:09 AM
you do realize they are asking for a loan, as in it gets payed back. not a 700 billion dollar bailout, that is not returned. helping wall street = helping white collar jobs. Not helping our auto industry = pissing on blue collar workers. not directed towards anyone, just putting in my .02
ULTIMATEORANGESS
12-06-2008, 07:44 PM
the big three have offered tons of incentives and that didnt help so i doubt this will do much. im all for a tax rebate for buying american though. itll just be even more money saved for me.
RoysTransAm
12-06-2008, 08:38 PM
you do realize they are asking for a loan, as in it gets payed back. not a 700 billion dollar bailout, that is not returned. helping wall street = helping white collar jobs. Not helping our auto industry = pissing on blue collar workers. not directed towards anyone, just putting in my .02
it's only a loan if they pull their heads out and make a profit again. And the way things look right now....its not a "loan", its not a "bailout" ITS A "Delay".
You could bail them out, but the cost of the car hasn't gone down, loans have not become available, so what changes??? Cut the cost on the cars and people like me will just pay cash. Smaller loans will be easier to get, and salespeople, dealerships, auto manufactures start turning a profit.
The Number 1 question here is what is going to get people back on the New car lots at the big 3? It's not going to be a bail out. It's not going to be cutting jobs. Its not going to be closing plants. Its not going to be restructure plan. Money talks and bullshit walks. And I'm not talking about the $1,300.00 insentive b.s. that they are offering right now. I'm talking about the $1,300 + another $2,000-$5,000 off. At this point I need a new car, and the cost of an America car is way to high to think that the warranty will be worthless 2 months from now. I would rather buy a 2nd f-body with low miles and be able to purchase aftermarket parts and fix it myself. A $24K G6 with no warranty on a transmission that is very prone to problems is not a vehicle I want to be stuck with. I might as well buy a used Grand Prix with no warranty to start with for 1/3 of the price.
RoysTransAm
12-06-2008, 08:40 PM
the big three have offered tons of incentives and that didnt help so i doubt this will do much. im all for a tax rebate for buying american though. itll just be even more money saved for me.
Tons????
$1,300 is the most I've seen.
Reducing a $25K msrp down to $23K isn't going to get people to take a gamble on a manufacture that might not be around in 2 months to cover its own warranty.
ULTIMATEORANGESS
12-07-2008, 12:38 AM
Tons????
$1,300 is the most I've seen.
Reducing a $25K msrp down to $23K isn't going to get people to take a gamble on a manufacture that might not be around in 2 months to cover its own warranty.
what? theyre taking thousands off new vehicles. shit, when GM was offering employee disc. they were taking 6k off C6s. my friend and his friend just bought new chargers. they took 7k off because they were sitting for 8 months.
PopaPork
12-08-2008, 11:25 AM
Lowering the price on cars and giving tax breaks like the OP said isn't going to get people in the cars when the cars quality is shit, and they have to get it fixed in a couple of years.
Hate to say it, but i'll never buy another American car again, no matter how much they give off. They'd have to basically have it damn near next to nothing to get me to walk on the lot.
All this is null and void if I get the itch for a vette though, but as far as a DD, or an SUV or anything aint going to happen
wabmorgan
12-14-2008, 11:17 AM
^^^^^It's funny you say that.... because I don't like most of the Nissan and Toy cars/autos.
You've just been brainwashed ..... cancel your subscription to Consumer Reports Magazine and all will be fine. :lol:
old and good
12-20-2008, 05:18 PM
my idea to help out the big three is as follows "stop making cars that people have no desire to buy" the fact is that the reason that these auto makers are having a hard time is that the cars they produce dont get people exited enough about and people rather buy other cars.
the fact is aside from sports cars, the american auto industry has not made a decent car for the masses exept for a few rare exeptions.
LS1LT1
12-20-2008, 05:35 PM
Lowering the price on cars and giving tax breaks like the OP said isn't going to get people in the cars when the cars quality is shit, and they have to get it fixed in a couple of years.I have NO freakin' idea what the hell you're talking about. :confused:
My now 8 year old Camaro, a car not even known to be among the better ones that GM has produced in the last decade or so, has been FLAWLESSLY AND UNDENIABLY SPOT ON RELIABLE/DEPENDABLE since day one, and I've even modified and raced the crap out of the damn thing to boot.
I won't even get into my Corvette's quality and feel, I have yet to sit in a Toyonda or even BMW under $75k that tops it.
Hate to say it, but i'll never buy another American car again, no matter how much they give off.One of the dumbest statements I've ever read.
If they'd be willing to sell you a $40k vehicle for $22k you wouldn't buy it?
Wow, you're a brilliant consumer. :lol:
but as far as a DD, or an SUV or anything aint going to happenYeah those GM and Ford SUVs/pick up truck are total shit, right? :eyes:
And the Malibu and Fusion are FANTASTIC daily drivers.
Once again, real brilliant statements you're making here. :jest:
Z Fury
12-20-2008, 10:16 PM
what? theyre taking thousands off new vehicles. shit, when GM was offering employee disc. they were taking 6k off C6s. my friend and his friend just bought new chargers. they took 7k off because they were sitting for 8 months.
Exactly. The cars are being sold for a lot lower than what the sticker is saying.
Think about it this way. What would they rather do - sell a few vehicles for minimal profit (if any), or sit on them and generate zero revenue? After those cars/trucks have been sitting there for a few months, I'm sure they'll be willing to move them at prices lower than you'd imagine, just to generate some form of revenue.