Automotive News, Media & Press - GTR Breaks Ring Record

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Nissan takes GT-R around the Norschleife and breaks previous 7min 29sec lap record



Nissan has tried to put to bed the controversy surrounding the GT-R’s Nurburgring lap record by having another crack. And it’s good news for the Japanese – the 2010 model year GT-R, with 478bhp and a modified launch control – beat the previous 7min 29sec time with a 7.27.56.

The car was piloted by Toshio Suzuki, a former stand-in Formula 1 driver, but Nissan still isn’t quite satisfied with the time – ‘although dry, the track surface grip was impaired by dust and sand’. That means another attempt is due in the next few days, with the Corvette ZR-1’s 7.26.40 firmly in Suzuki’s sights.

As well as a smidge extra power, the updated GT-R gets a retuned gearbox, fettled suspension, a larger fuel tank and slightly better fuel economy, although this probably wasn’t too key around the Nordschleife. Stay tuned for more updates as Nissan continues its efforts at the Ring.

Things are gonna get interesting again.:D

Cool rivalry they have going on, def. will be interesting to see how each one responds.

Untill it breaks the vipers 7:22 then it hasn't broken sh*t.
-Joel

Untill the GT-R makes some #'s from a 3rd party tester than i dont believe that "ringer" is anywhere near stock. How hard is it for nissan to just "up" the boost and nobody know about it.

That's OK, ZR1 can go to the ring on a better day without the big headwind :D

What I don't understand is why do they continue making attempts with the standard one when they have the V just around the corner? No matter how much time they spend at the ring they can't hold a candle to how amazing the SRT team pulled off their time in the ACR.
-Joel

Untill the GT-R makes some #'s from a 3rd party tester than i dont believe that "ringer" is anywhere near stock. How hard is it for nissan to just "up" the boost and nobody know about it.

Exactly.

The cars have so many tranny/TC/warranty issues I wouldn't touch one.

Not to mention how they look....:barf:

Who gives a shit? Like any of us could drive like that.
:eyes:

Untill the GT-R makes some #'s from a 3rd party tester than i dont believe that "ringer" is anywhere near stock. How hard is it for nissan to just "up" the boost and nobody know about it.

The third party test has been done. Neither the Porsche GT2 or the Nissan GT-R get the lap times the manufacturer's suggest. I bet if they tested the ZR1 it wouldn't get the time Chevrolet got either. But still I believe this third party test over a "manufacturer's test".

http://magazines.drivers-republic.com/driversrepublic/thetruth030/

Who gives a shit? Like any of us could drive like that.
:eyes:

True, but to be fair, we'd be closer to driving like that and pulling those times in the GTR than we'd ever be to doing it in a ZR1 or a Viper ACR, especially.

Untill the GT-R makes some #'s from a 3rd party tester than i dont believe that "ringer" is anywhere near stock. How hard is it for nissan to just "up" the boost and nobody know about it.

Like someone mentioned, there's been A LOT of independent tests already on a variety of different styled tracks... The results are that it's a hair faster than a standard Z06/911 GT2, not by the margin their 'Ring tests would have us believe.




Things are gonna get interesting again.

Man, Chevrolet took the ZR1 to the 'Ring for three days, IIRC.

It's clear that Nissan continues to pour MANY hours into testing at the 'Ring... Imagine if GM did the same (unfortunately, they have other matters right now) and spent as much time there... They'd have alot better than a 7:26, but I understand that is just speculation... I'm sure you could agree though.

I think they're crazy if they feel their GTR can run with a ZR1 on any kind of road course, personally... Maybe their Spec V... IF THAT.

I think it's funny they are so apt to try to up one the ZR1. were in a shit hole crisis trying to save GM and Nissan is spending multiple hours upon hours just to try to shave a few seconds off their time to beat the ZR1's time for what? to say "HA! In your face GM"...i don't get it?

This is just getting stupid. We know what the GT-R ran on it's 72,213 other ring runs. Do we need to hear anymore?

At this point, we know what the GT-R can do...why is Nissan wasting money they don't have on running this ONE car on this ONE track?

Geez, to think people are still bitching about GM wasting money.

to settle this once and for all all 3 cars should do 24 hours at daytona or lemans and the one that has the most laps wins...

The ZR1 will own at Le Mans and I give the ACR the edge at Daytona.
-Joel

Actually I think the ZR1 was there for about 2 or 3 weeks. The viper was there for 3 days but they didn't have 3 days worth of track time. That's what amazes me so much about the ACR. The cars potential is through the roof, the gearing is what handicapped it.
-Joel


Like someone mentioned, there's been A LOT of independent tests already on a variety of different styled tracks... The results are that it's a hair faster than a standard Z06/911 GT2, not by the margin their 'Ring tests would have us believe.






Man, Chevrolet took the ZR1 to the 'Ring for three days, IIRC.

It's clear that Nissan continues to pour MANY hours into testing at the 'Ring... Imagine if GM did the same (unfortunately, they have other matters right now) and spent as much time there... They'd have alot better than a 7:26, but I understand that is just speculation... I'm sure you could agree though.

I think they're crazy if they feel their GTR can run with a ZR1 on any kind of road course, personally... Maybe their Spec V... IF THAT.

So... with a F1 race car driver, a "smidge of extra power", a retuned gear box and i'm sure better tires than the zr1 and they still can beat the zr1's time. WTF????

Actually the Zr1 times is 7:22.4.

ACR is the best though and it will probably smoke them both in 99% of the other tracks that arn't freaks like the nurburgring.

[QUOTE=El es one;11445737]Actually the Zr1 times is 7:22.4.[QUOTE]

Unfortunately that time is unconfirmed and removed from the list. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordschleife_fastest_lap_times

The third party test has been done. Neither the Porsche GT2 or the Nissan GT-R get the lap times the manufacturer's suggest. I bet if they tested the ZR1 it wouldn't get the time Chevrolet got either. But still I believe this third party test over a "manufacturer's test".

http://magazines.drivers-republic.com/driversrepublic/thetruth030/

That was a good article and a good read! :thumb:

http://i663.photobucket.com/albums/uu356/el_mamito_usmc/Godillaburns911.jpg

http://www.gtr.co.uk/news.html


The car used was a standard European spec car running standard tyres. The new time was achieved at the end of a long day of testing and the start was delayed by an accident. As well as Nissan present representatives of other car manufacturers were also there to witness the time and also the specification of the car used. Nobody from one of the German based manufacturers was available for comment!

The third party test has been done. Neither the Porsche GT2 or the Nissan GT-R get the lap times the manufacturer's suggest. I bet if they tested the ZR1 it wouldn't get the time Chevrolet got either. But still I believe this third party test over a "manufacturer's test".

http://magazines.drivers-republic.com/driversrepublic/thetruth030/

Did you actually read the article? The gt2 was faster in conditions that favored the nissan. The test driver said he believed that the gt2 could go even faster than its claimed time (with better driver/conditions) but that he was skeptical of the gtr's time.

can yall give credit where credit is due?

ok its not the FASTEST car thats ever gone around the track but its a fuck of a lot faster than most people on here ESPECIALLY on a track like that.

We gave credit the first time around, the fact this car is running around the ring every dam week just basically makes it that boring......who cares anymore? They basically spend all there time and money with that car at the ring...and the ring only.

can yall give credit where credit is due?

ok its not the FASTEST car thats ever gone around the track but its a fuck of a lot faster than most people on here ESPECIALLY on a track like that.

The point here is that no one outside of Nissan and their fanboys care anymore. The car has had it's time in the spotlight...now it needs to bow out and let other, newer cars in. That's how it works...a car comes out, generates buzz...then fades into the massive crowd of other cars already available...then the next big thing takes the spotlight. The GT-R had it's run like a year ago...then the ZR1 took the spotlight...then the Viper ACR. Then we had some buzz about the underwhelming GT-R SpecV...now it's time to move onto something else...not go back to the GT-R AGAIN!

Will we ever be free of the Sheetmetal Shi-Tzu?!??!

I like how this specific article neglects the fact the GTR was also running on wheels from the Spec V.

Actually I think the ZR1 was there for about 2 or 3 weeks. The viper was there for 3 days but they didn't have 3 days worth of track time. That's what amazes me so much about the ACR. The cars potential is through the roof, the gearing is what handicapped it.
-Joel

lol, the ACR spending about an entire minute total hitting the rev limiter in that lap, and still smoking everything!


I mixed up the ZR1 and the ACR and their time of testing.

Still, two or three weeks compared to several trips and MORE like Nissan is doing... Can't they just give up already? Nissan is just wasting needless money like Blackbird said... They can just continue to perform small research or tests back in their home tracks, which they have a lot of.

It's real mettle will still be gauged by the independent tests, not their private tests...

To be fair against our own ZR1 now, it hasn't been independently tested at all yet IIRC, right? But the ACR has... And it BLOWS the GTR away on the same tracks they were both tested... Not even close.

i didnt see this mentioned so i thought id throw this in there

the driver of the zr1 was not a race car driver. he was on of the engineers who helped build it. the same as with the CTS-V times.

the ZR1 also set an on official time of 7.22.something

the gtr and acr viper wer both being driven by a professional driver.

gtr driver- formula 1
acr driver- zakspeed (sp?) zakspeed races only vipers

i didnt see this mentioned so i thought id throw this in there

the driver of the zr1 was not a race car driver. he was on of the engineers who helped build it. the same as with the CTS-V times.

the ZR1 also set an on official time of 7.22.something

the gtr and acr viper wer both being driven by a professional driver.

gtr driver- formula 1
acr driver- zakspeed (sp?) zakspeed races only vipers

now we are beating a dead horse again... The driver of the ZR1 isn't just some joe smoe engineer, the guy is a driver and from watching the video he does know what he is doing. Is it capable of going faster? sure, but so is the ACR

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_hvW0K-nBVMI/SNGX3251DJI/AAAAAAAAANo/pG3qs1s8jLk/s400/flogging-dead-horse.jpg

I don't know what is more sad - that Nissan is hell-bent on beating a car that they can't beat, or that we continue to talk about it.

The GT-R is a very stout car, but not a ZR1 killer. That doesn't make it slow though. The sooner Nissan accepts this, the better the chance of saving the car's image.

While it is easy to say Jim Mero is an engineer we must through that concept out the window. The amount of time he spent in the ZR1 around the ring makes him not your average joe driver. John Heinricy(sp) drove the CTSV but he has a history of auto racing. I believe he was also one of the factory drivers for the C5R when they hit ALMS. The ZR1 did run a faster time with Jan I believe as driver, but I believe there wasn't proof like Jims run. Either I'm still sticking to it's original time as BS. It wasn't untill the time that VSpec rumors were running wild that the gtr accomplished it's high 7:20s run. I know the fanbous response is going to be that Jans Z06 at the time it ran the ring was though to be the Blue Devil. Well the proof is in the time, the Zr1 is about 20+ seconds faster. Either way the hype for this car is in the toilet. Let me guess nissan is going to do another press release when they shave .001 seconds off with tire pressure change?
-Joel

**I wonder if the Japanese gov. would consider giving them a bailout, even though they are spendings tons of money for 1 second.

While it is easy to say Jim Mero is an engineer we must through that concept out the window. The amount of time he spent in the ZR1 around the ring makes him not your average joe driver. John Heinricy(sp) drove the CTSV but he has a history of auto racing. I believe he was also one of the factory drivers for the C5R when they hit ALMS. The ZR1 did run a faster time with Jan I believe as driver, but I believe there wasn't proof like Jims run. Either I'm still sticking to it's original time as BS. It wasn't untill the time that VSpec rumors were running wild that the gtr accomplished it's high 7:20s run. I know the fanbous response is going to be that Jans Z06 at the time it ran the ring was though to be the Blue Devil. Well the proof is in the time, the Zr1 is about 20+ seconds faster. Either way the hype for this car is in the toilet. Let me guess nissan is going to do another press release when they shave .001 seconds off with tire pressure change?
-Joel

**I wonder if the Japanese gov. would consider giving them a bailout, even though they are spendings tons of money for 1 second.

Actually, we're still discussing the regular GTR and not the VSpec. The VSpec will be in the low 7:2x when it's all said and done.

Did you actually read the article? The gt2 was faster in conditions that favored the nissan. The test driver said he believed that the gt2 could go even faster than its claimed time (with better driver/conditions) but that he was skeptical of the gtr's time.

Did you read my post? I said neither car got what their prospective manufacturer's claimed (at least implied it I knew what I meant), and yes I did read the article. Basically they said they could believe Porsche's factory times, but that the GT-R's time probably ran on non-stock tires, without coming out and stating that.

Actually, we're still discussing the regular GTR and not the VSpec. The VSpec will be in the low 7:2x when it's all said and done.

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If all the VSpec can pull off is a low 7:20 then nissan fails miserably. With it's less weight and more power it shouldn't be anywhere near the standard gtr. I will laugh hard if the vspec runs similar times to the standard model. That would be a knife in the heart of nissan, and proof their times are bogus.
-Joel

If all the VSpec can pull off is a low 7:20 then nissan fails miserably. With it's less weight and more power it shouldn't be anywhere near the standard gtr. I will laugh hard if the vspec runs similar times to the standard model. That would be a knife in the heart of nissan, and proof their times are bogus.
-Joel

I wouldn't be surprised if the Vspec runs THE SAME times as the standard GT-R. There just isn't much there to warrant high expectations. It could shave another 2 seconds off with extensive testing, but that's about all that should be expected.

Actually, i'll be kinda surprised if Nissan actually runs the Vspec at the Ring. They have to realize there isn't alot of potential for news in their favor.

I take nissan's 'ring' times with a grain of salt

Another one of these? I don't think so.