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blackodium
05-27-2009, 11:12 AM
will this work for my car?

http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/commerce.cgi?product=CAR&cart_id=5395111.2383#FL-889


69lemansguy
05-27-2009, 11:20 AM
i dont see why not? but ive never used them before. If you buy it post up, id be interested in this as well.

blackodium
05-28-2009, 10:41 AM
i placed a bid and won it for 17 and some change. the shipping suxks but it is the cheapest. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/No-Load-LED-Turn-Signal-light-bulb-FLASHER-lightbulb_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZalgoQ3dSIQ26 itsQ3dIQ252BCQ26ituQ3dFICSQ252BUAQ252BUCIQ26otnQ3d 15Q26poQ3dLVIQ26psQ3d54QQ_trksidZp3907Q2em263QQcat egoryZ33713QQitemZ200345204422

once i get this i will post pics and tell you if it is a good one or not.


WhiteBird00
05-28-2009, 04:19 PM
I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you could have bought an ordinary electronic flasher (such as an EL-12) for under $10 at your local auto parts store, not had to wait for it, and paid no shipping.

blackodium
05-28-2009, 04:29 PM
that is what everyone needs to avoid doing. its not really an electronic flasher. but yet not thermal either. it still works under load in which led's do not have any. so the no load flasher is the fix. Please correct me if i am wrong.....

i have bought the EL 12 flasher for the blinker and hazards. my lights do not work unless i put a filament bulb in either both the front right and left socket.

WhiteBird00
05-28-2009, 04:37 PM
Electronically, there is no difference between your garden-variety electronic flasher and a specialized LED flasher except for labeling (and marketing and price). An electronic flasher uses circuitry to control the flash rate regardless of load. In fact, it doesn't care if there is a load or not - as long as the load doesn't exceed the capacity of the internal contacts.

I have an ordinary electronic flasher and have switched back and forth between LED and incandescent bulbs without changing the flasher. I got the flasher originally to support my sequential turn signals. I tried LEDs and found I hated the look so I went back to regular bulbs.

blackodium
05-28-2009, 04:54 PM
ok so how do you explain that the flasher (el12) dont work using all led's?

WhiteBird00
05-28-2009, 04:58 PM
ok so how do you explain that the flasher (el12) dont work using all led's?I don't... because it worked fine in my car. The only difference would be that I had the sequential signal module but otherwise it was all LED (including marker lights) and worked fine with an EL-12 flasher.

blackodium
05-28-2009, 05:38 PM
for the record lets say other than using sequential tail lights the el12 flasher doers not work

BRD-PREY
05-28-2009, 05:59 PM
Electronically, there is no difference between your garden-variety electronic flasher and a specialized LED flasher except for labeling (and marketing and price). An electronic flasher uses circuitry to control the flash rate regardless of load. In fact, it doesn't care if there is a load or not - as long as the load doesn't exceed the capacity of the internal contacts.

I have an ordinary electronic flasher and have switched back and forth between LED and incandescent bulbs without changing the flasher. I got the flasher originally to support my sequential turn signals. I tried LEDs and found I hated the look so I went back to regular bulbs.

White Bird thats not true I took them apart. Tridon is even came out with a new catalog and seperates the difference between electronic and Electro-mechanical. EL12 from them is electro-mechanical. (capacitor and a coil/relay)
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Black don't confuse yourself! the sequencial tail lights have nothing to do with it. I personally wanted it to flash slower so I opted for an adjustable electronic flasher ( a modified 555).
PLAIN and SIMPLE your leds do not place enough load on your EL12 to flash, so they just stay lit. Would a EL12 from a different manufactor work? Maybe.
but a true electronic designed for 1 to X bulbs will.

WhiteBird check this out;
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/appearance-detailing/1122793-led-flasher-info-led-problems.html

blackodium
05-28-2009, 07:33 PM
ok my bad but from WHAT I UNDERSTAND no load (led's) will work with the no load flasher. i will give it a whirl and let you guys know THANKS guys for all the input

BRD-PREY
05-28-2009, 08:32 PM
I feel confident that the flasher will work for use as it based on a an electronic 552.
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blackodium
05-28-2009, 08:39 PM
cool im excited brd. pm me the place you bught your lights. i like the 3rd light flashing. also did you convert the 194 on the tail light to 3157?

WhiteBird00
05-29-2009, 09:12 AM
White Bird thats not true I took them apart. Tridon is even came out with a new catalog and seperates the difference between electronic and Electro-mechanical. EL12 from them is electro-mechanical. (capacitor and a coil/relay)
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Black don't confuse yourself! the sequencial tail lights have nothing to do with it. I personally wanted it to flash slower so I opted for an adjustable electronic flasher ( a modified 555).
PLAIN and SIMPLE your leds do not place enough load on your EL12 to flash, so they just stay lit. Would a EL12 from a different manufactor work? Maybe.
but a true electronic designed for 1 to X bulbs will.

WhiteBird check this out;
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/appearance-detailing/1122793-led-flasher-info-led-problems.html
I'm just telling you about my personal experience. I had all LEDs with an EL-12 flasher and the sequential turn signal module and it worked fine. Maybe the sequential turn signal module was acting like a load equalizer.

blackodium
05-29-2009, 09:32 AM
That is my thought exactly

BRD-PREY
05-29-2009, 09:44 AM
I'm just telling you about my personal experience. I had all LEDs with an EL-12 flasher and the sequential turn signal module and it worked fine. Maybe the sequential turn signal module was acting like a load equalizer.

I told BLACK to get the EL12 originally, then he PM me and said it wasn't working. So I did a liitle more research and provided additional info. I felt bad because I told him an EL12 would work becaused it worked in mine.

I too am relating my personal trials and experiences and I also have a sequencial turns. Mine worked also but I wanted them to go slower for the effect. That's when I started disassembling the flashers to put a variable resistor in and I found out that all supposed electronic flashers are not created equal.
See this post:
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/appearance-detailing/1088604-sequencer-taillights.html
Check out this video see how I slowed the rate down.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwLRWqmflw

blackodium
06-04-2009, 08:02 PM
the no load flasher on ebay fixed my problem!!!

BRD-PREY
06-05-2009, 12:37 AM
I'm glad

69lemansguy
06-05-2009, 03:15 PM
thanks for posting all the info. im not planning on running LEDs, so the el12 should work fine in my application correct?

blackodium
06-05-2009, 04:46 PM
yes it should be fine