Negative Trader Feedback - Beware of LS1W

On 6-22-2009 I posted this thread. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/parts-wanted/1137197-wtb-taillight-1998-firebird.html


I need the passenger side tail light.


I was pleased to get a pm not much after this post from LS1W, here is our conversation via PM:

i have one from a 00 ta i am parting out
very very nice shape $110 shipped
-shane
check my feedback and let me know
thanks



I will take it.

Do you have a paypal account?


coast2coastkid@charter.net
ill get it right out
-shane


Sent

Thank you

Mike


ill get it right out tomorrow from work
thanks - shane


On the 3rd I returned home to install my taillight. Much to my surprise I had received a driver side taillight. I was a little pissed about this but sometimes things like this happen.

So that day I sent him a pm:


You sent me a driver side. I needed the passenger side.

No reply to that pm, so again I try to PM him.


Is there anyway we can correct this?



i must have mis-read or mis boxed / im not sure what happened - let me get ahold of you tomorrow when i get to the shop
-shane

Didn't hear back from him for a few days. So again I PM him.



What did you find out?


Again I hear nothing from him. :ripped:

I had to go out of town for work so I decide that I will deal with this when I get back. That leads to this PM.


I never heard back from you about this taillight. I really don't want to leave you negative feedback but I will if I don't hear back from you.



if you ship it back to me in the same box i will send you the other side / i could have swore that your original post said drivers side but the post seems to be gone now - shane

Yeah I am going to send back the taillight so you can have the money and the taillight. At least now I have something for my money even thought it doesn't do me a damn bit of good.

One last try:


Here is the post, http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/parts-wanted/1137197-wtb-taillight-1998-firebird.html, that can be found with a simple search.

I will send you this taillight when/if you send me the light that I payed for in our deal.

As of today (7-27-2009) he has not replied to me and has been on the site...

Sucks man. I feel your pain. Regardless of how much money it is it's still fucked up. Hope you get shit resolved and I'll definitely not do business with this guy.

S & S Logging type shit here

Good luck.

I have stood behind EVERYTHING i have ever done on this site since i joined here as my feedback CLEARLY states.

Can ANYBODY read through my 70+ feedbacks and honestly believe that this was anything more than a mixup that i offered a solution to but the customer does not want resolve this ?????

- WHAT IS THE PROBLEM with sending me back the wrong part i sent you ???

(1) i screwed up
(2) i offered you a solution
(3) you are choosing not to resolve this, not me

i am thouroghly confused about this much BS from someone - he was very quick to go with NEGATIVE feedback on me and seems like he does not want to retun the taillight, and while i would like to return the favor, i have only left him a neutral so as to not taint the PERFECT ZERO rating he has. Ill think twice before dealing with anybody else with a ZERO rating ever again.

and how can you say the following ? : QUOTE :
"Yeah I am going to send back the taillight so you can have the money and the taillight. At least now I have something for my money even thought it doesn't do me a damn bit of good"

hey buddy - YOU SENT ME MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE AND HAD NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT UNTIL YOU RECIEVED THE PART !!!!!- what, you trusted me at first with your money and now you dont ? this statement by you has no logic to it at all.

i dont believe for a second you want to resolve this, maybe the taillight i sent you is in better shape that the one on your car already and thats why you dont want to return it

send it back and ill send you the other side / or quit bitching about it
PERIOD

I kind of agree with LS1W. As a seller on this website, sellers have there rules too. When you buy something from wallmart, you don't demand them to send you another correct/good item and then return your wrong item, you take your wrong item back first, then get the correct item.....Sometimes you have to make ends meet even if you dont agree with the terms.

As a seller, the last time i agreed to the buyers terms it did not end well at all. I hope you guys can reach a happy medium

Sounds like a bad situation, but I agree with Shane on this; you send him the light, he sends you the other one. I've done the same before, and with his feedback, it's pretty clear he's reputable.

FWIW, I've done business with Shane via his shop, and was very pleased with the transaction.

I have stood behind EVERYTHING i have ever done on this site since i joined here as my feedback CLEARLY states.

Can ANYBODY read through my 70+ feedbacks and honestly believe that this was anything more than a mixup that i offered a solution to but the customer does not want resolve this ?????

- WHAT IS THE PROBLEM with sending me back the wrong part i sent you ???

(1) i screwed up
(2) i offered you a solution
(3) you are choosing not to resolve this, not me

i am thouroghly confused about this much BS from someone - he was very quick to go with NEGATIVE feedback on me and seems like he does not want to retun the taillight, and while i would like to return the favor, i have only left him a neutral so as to not taint the PERFECT ZERO rating he has. Ill think twice before dealing with anybody else with a ZERO rating ever again.

and how can you say the following ? : QUOTE :
"Yeah I am going to send back the taillight so you can have the money and the taillight. At least now I have something for my money even thought it doesn't do me a damn bit of good"

hey buddy - YOU SENT ME MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE AND HAD NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT UNTIL YOU RECIEVED THE PART !!!!!- what, you trusted me at first with your money and now you dont ? this statement by you has no logic to it at all.

i dont believe for a second you want to resolve this, maybe the taillight i sent you is in better shape that the one on your car already and thats why you dont want to return it

send it back and ill send you the other side / or quit bitching about it
PERIOD


Well from what he posted it sounded like you were ducking and dodging the dude. I wouldn't trust you either if you sent me the wrong part and then didn't respond to me for however long. Sounds like a mix-up here so I retract my statement from before but I agree with both of the posts here.

Its makes sense to me for the person who screwed up to pay for return shipping. Just have mshiznitzh send a copy of the shipping receipt with the package and refund the amount via paypal when it arrives.

Its makes sense to me for the person who screwed up to pay for return shipping. Just have mshiznitzh send a copy of the shipping receipt with the package and refund the amount via paypal when it arrives.

i have no problem paying for shipping / ill even mail him a UPS call tag so he can send it back to me with no money out of his pocket - My paying for return shipping was NEVER an issue as that is clearly my respsonsibility.

I have stood behind EVERYTHING i have ever done on this site since i joined here as my feedback CLEARLY states.

Can ANYBODY read through my 70+ feedbacks and honestly believe that this was anything more than a mixup that i offered a solution to but the customer does not want resolve this ?????

- WHAT IS THE PROBLEM with sending me back the wrong part i sent you ???

(1) i screwed up
(2) i offered you a solution
(3) you are choosing not to resolve this, not me

i am thouroghly confused about this much BS from someone - he was very quick to go with NEGATIVE feedback on me and seems like he does not want to retun the taillight, and while i would like to return the favor, i have only left him a neutral so as to not taint the PERFECT ZERO rating he has. Ill think twice before dealing with anybody else with a ZERO rating ever again.

and how can you say the following ? : QUOTE :
"Yeah I am going to send back the taillight so you can have the money and the taillight. At least now I have something for my money even thought it doesn't do me a damn bit of good"

hey buddy - YOU SENT ME MONEY IN THE FIRST PLACE AND HAD NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT UNTIL YOU RECIEVED THE PART !!!!!- what, you trusted me at first with your money and now you dont ? this statement by you has no logic to it at all.

i dont believe for a second you want to resolve this, maybe the taillight i sent you is in better shape that the one on your car already and thats why you dont want to return it

send it back and ill send you the other side / or quit bitching about it
PERIOD

Your solution, was that I told you wrong, I have proven that I did not, and it took a month to get that out of you. Now you claim the reason I have the wrong light is because I wanted it??? WTF, I WANTED A PASSENGER SIDE TAILLIGHT AND I PAYED FOR A PASSENGER SIDE TAILLIGHT.

I do want the taillight that I payed for, thus the reason I payed for it, but I don't want to invest a greater amount of risk into your competency as a seller, shipper and/or reader.

What reason do I have to trust you? If you would have responded to my first PM I would have trusted you but the fact it took 4 PMs and 3 weeks for you to blame me for this issue doesn't get me a reason to trust you.

It seems like you want to do the right thing. Sounds like you guys can maybe work something out.

In the future maybe monitor your PMs a bit a bit more closely. Especially when you have an outstanding issue with a buyer. If the buyers context of events is accurate there was a seventeen day period over which you knew about this issue but took no action.

It seems like you want to do the right thing. Sounds like you guys can maybe work something out.

In the future maybe monitor your PMs a bit a bit more closely. Especially when you have an outstanding issue with a buyer. If the buyers context of events is accurate there was a seventeen day period over which you knew about this issue but took no action.

I agree there. This should have been taken care of within a few days of being pointed out. If the buyer would have taken a month to report this to you i could understand that being a different story, but that was not the case in this situation.

this has gotten WAY out of hand

I OBVIOUSLY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THIS, OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T BE RESPONDING TO ANY OF THIS !!!!!!!!!!!

i have already admitted this was my fault, i have already stated i will pay for return shipping, yes it took me TOO LONG to respond initially and i am neither denying this or defending it ( YES IT TOOK TOO LONG )
but holy sh-t, should i surrender my first born here ?

ONE MORE TIME - send the taillight back and I WILL SEND YOU the other side.

does ANYONE have a problem with this VERY SIMPLE arrangement ??



and besides, if you REALLY want to point a finger at who is so unwilling to co-operate here, re-read his timeline/postings carefully because it is painfully obvious that he wants to be difficult - HIS claim on 7-23 that he doesn't want to leave me negative feedback, but will if he doesn't hear back from me is obviously a lie because i wrote him back the next day with a simple and logical solution and he IMMEDIATELY left negative feedback after that offering
( does that make logical sense to anyone else )

Originally Posted by mshiznitzh on 07-23-2009
I never heard back from you about this taillight. I really don't want to leave you negative feedback but I will if I don't hear back from you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LS1W on 07-24-2009
if you ship it back to me in the same box i will send you the other side / i could have swore that your original post said drivers side but the post seems to be gone now - shane




i will NEVER do another deal with someone who has
ZERO feedback EVER AGAIN

Mshiznitzh ur a cry baby:cry:!!!!!!!......

lolz ain't life grand?

this has gotten WAY out of hand

I OBVIOUSLY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THIS, OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T BE RESPONDING TO ANY OF THIS !!!!!!!!!!!

i have already admitted this was my fault, i have already stated i will pay for return shipping, yes it took me TOO LONG to respond initially and i am neither denying this or defending it ( YES IT TOOK TOO LONG )
but holy sh-t, should i surrender my first born here ?

ONE MORE TIME - send the taillight back and I WILL SEND YOU the other side.

does ANYONE have a problem with this VERY SIMPLE arrangement ??



and besides, if you REALLY want to point a finger at who is so unwilling to co-operate here, re-read his timeline/postings carefully because it is painfully obvious that he wants to be difficult - HIS claim on 7-23 that he doesn't want to leave me negative feedback, but will if he doesn't hear back from me is obviously a lie because i wrote him back the next day with a simple and logical solution and he IMMEDIATELY left negative feedback after that offering
( does that make logical sense to anyone else )

Originally Posted by mshiznitzh on 07-23-2009
I never heard back from you about this taillight. I really don't want to leave you negative feedback but I will if I don't hear back from you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LS1W on 07-24-2009
if you ship it back to me in the same box i will send you the other side / i could have swore that your original post said drivers side but the post seems to be gone now - shane




i will NEVER do another deal with someone who has
ZERO feedback EVER AGAIN

If you would have responded to my last PM I would have not left negative feedback but once again 3 days pasted and nothing.

Only after I left negative feedback did you start taking about paying shipping before that you claimed that it was MY FAULT.


I haven't lied about anything. You are the one that has dropped the ball now take care of it. If we can work out a deal within a reasonable amount of time I will take care of the feedback but as of now it was negative for me. It has been a month and I still don't have the right part. Would you be happy?

this has gotten WAY out of hand

I OBVIOUSLY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF THIS, OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T BE RESPONDING TO ANY OF THIS !!!!!!!!!!!

i have already admitted this was my fault, i have already stated i will pay for return shipping, yes it took me TOO LONG to respond initially and i am neither denying this or defending it ( YES IT TOOK TOO LONG )
but holy sh-t, should i surrender my first born here ?

ONE MORE TIME - send the taillight back and I WILL SEND YOU the other side.

does ANYONE have a problem with this VERY SIMPLE arrangement ??



and besides, if you REALLY want to point a finger at who is so unwilling to co-operate here, re-read his timeline/postings carefully because it is painfully obvious that he wants to be difficult - HIS claim on 7-23 that he doesn't want to leave me negative feedback, but will if he doesn't hear back from me is obviously a lie because i wrote him back the next day with a simple and logical solution and he IMMEDIATELY left negative feedback after that offering
( does that make logical sense to anyone else )

Originally Posted by mshiznitzh on 07-23-2009
I never heard back from you about this taillight. I really don't want to leave you negative feedback but I will if I don't hear back from you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LS1W on 07-24-2009
if you ship it back to me in the same box i will send you the other side / i could have swore that your original post said drivers side but the post seems to be gone now - shane




i will NEVER do another deal with someone who has
ZERO feedback EVER AGAIN


+1 on that 0 rating! it looks to be a simple mix up, no one is perfect. and when you actually have a life and fulltime job and family ....people that come on this site sometimes only check this site/email from time to time reguardless.
I personally has dealt with ls1w on more than one occasion and have been pleased with prices and inventory that he supplies. He has supplied many deals to members here in so cal. (look at trader rating :huh:) but negitive feedback WTF

resolution resolved SEND THE LIGHT BACK! period

I'm not siding with anybody on this one but if you're in the process of selling shit all the time you should make it a point to get on here once a day and check your shit. At least to answer to your buyers IMO.

4 more days of nothing but crickets...

4 more days of nothing but crickets...

- are the crickets going to bring me that taillight ?
is that what is taking so long for you to return it ?

keep bitching - everyone on this site can CLEARLY see who the unwilling is

- are the crickets going to bring me that taillight ?
is that what is taking so long for you to return it ?

keep bitching - everyone on this site can CLEARLY see who the unwilling is


What happen to

i have no problem paying for shipping / ill even mail him a UPS call tag so he can send it back to me with no money out of his pocket - My paying for return shipping was NEVER an issue as that is clearly my respsonsibility.

and you didn't even give me an address to return it to, now did you.

You can forget it man I bought another taillight now. It was clear from day one you weren't going to take care of this.

What happen to



and you didn't even give me an address to return it to, now did you.

You can forget it man I bought another taillight now. It was clear from day one you weren't going to take care of this.



*WHAT HAPPENED TO THE BOX IT CAME IN WITH MY SHOP'S ADDRESS CLEARLY PRINTED ON THE UPS TAG ?

-lets see here, you opened a box with the wrong part in it and you threw the box away immediately BECAUSE WHY ?

-lets see here ( if your REALLY ARE that dumb )
SO, you clearly kept ALL YOUR RESPONSES AND QUESTIONS TO ME as you have so previously proven and posted, so which one contains the query as to the problem with not being able to ship it back due to no address ?????????
(so that we can all see the exact time and date that you messaged me to tell me you did not have an address to send it back to, right ? right ? RIGHT ?

-funny, i dont find anything to support this NEW EXCUSE

-i personally DONT CARE if you bought another one already, if you don't need it, RETURN IT and I WILL RETURN YOUR MONEY 100%
( i would actually come out better due to the fact i would not have to re-ship you the RH side at my expense )

that is of course, unless you want to still keep it

( didnt have my address:huh: )
WOW
enough said ( or so it should be )
( why do i think he has another excuse coming up in the next reply )