Automotive News, Media & Press - New Regal = New Grand National???

http://www.caranddriver.com/news/spied/09q3/2011_buick_regal-spied

Fingers crossed

That would be cool but they'd better not fuck it up! Treading on sacred ground if they bastardize the name just to sell a few vehicles.

ive said it once and ill say it again, this is the perfect time to bring back the GN. with all the performance markets heading towards turbocharged smaller engines, it only makes sense to make a GN. a turbo DI 3.6 from the Camaro/CTS (lower CR obviously) would make some great power, and GM could under rate it all they want (again). as long as its in a completely stylish yet tasteful body, dont want a retro body at all. stublety is the name of the game, like the original. this particular car, im not sure if it would fit to be a GN. AWD, like stated in the link, would make it that much more badass.

Looks like another UGLY car from the General.

another ugly 4 door car.

Looks like another UGLY car from the General.yep!!! Thanks Government Motors!!

Hopefully they will stick with Grand Sport with that car.

What's the target audience?

Nice looking car for sure. At least I like it.

http://www.caranddriver.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/news/spied/09q3/2011_buick_regal-spied/gallery/2010_buick_lacrosse_cxs_ip_stack_photo_23/2782276-1-eng-US/2010-buick-lacrosse-cxs-27_cd_gallery.jpg

It needs to look like this with buick badges....

http://media.canada.com/267c54bd-63f5-4113-9b72-08e5f2aaa7c2/2009opelinsignia1.jpg

i think they used the cadillac center console

what ever happened to the new Riviera and the Invitca

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u28/warlock147/Ls1%20Tech%20stuff/buick-riviera-concept-front-three-q.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u28/warlock147/Ls1%20Tech%20stuff/tn_AS08Buick20Riviera20Concept206.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u28/warlock147/Ls1%20Tech%20stuff/19-buick-riviera-concept_tm.jpg

http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u28/warlock147/Ls1%20Tech%20stuff/buick-riviera-concept_4.jpg

:barf:

The Riv above looks cool.... but I can't envision GM building that.... at least not with the gull-wing doors in play.

I think the new Regal looks pretty good, actually...

Can't tell much, but from what I see I'm not digging it.

Fail!!!!!! I liked the concept that looked like the gto better.

The first two pictures might be a regal, the remaining ones are nothing more than the new lacrosse.

some of the rumored images floating around the internet

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9864/buickgscoupesmallbnf2.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1522/buickgsxcoupesmalluq3.jpg

http://popularhotrodding.com/features/0510phr_spread_z.jpg

wow such a great idea bringing the GN back...... but this can sooo easily be turned for the worst... like by not going all black, and by putting a different plant besides a turbo v6 and making it AWD.

wow such a great idea bringing the GN back...... but this can sooo easily be turned for the worst... like by not going all black, and by putting a different plant besides a turbo v6 and making it AWD.

agreed, or worse, making it a 4 door

The original GNs weren't all-black... just the GNX.

Build the Grand National,but open a new plant and use the Camaro chassis:

*Camaro chassis with new body sculpting
*Alumatec V6 (Camaro base engine), and turbo-charge it! It is already forged. With direct injection, vvt and active fuel management. It is a very high tech engine begging to be boosted from its 300 horse.
*Leather interior.
*Black!
Optional luxury package with Navigation and bells and whistles that the performance crowd may not want for weight or price.
Optional performance package with carbon fiber hood, larger wheels, and if you are feeling real aggressive a GM performance parts water injection kit.

GM you have the parts, and have a winner with the Camaro. Why wait, and play games with the market. Crank production up and seize on the opportunity by keeping demand alive for a v6 well into the future!

84-87 GNs were all black. T Types and Turbo Ts were the ones with all the colors. I doubt they will make one. It's probably for the best though. They would most likely ruin it.

Build the Grand National,but open a new plant and use the Camaro chassis:

*Camaro chassis with new body sculpting
*Alumatec V6 (Camaro base engine), and turbo-charge it! It is already forged. With direct injection, vvt and active fuel management. It is a very high tech engine begging to be boosted from its 300 horse.
*Leather interior.
*Black!
Optional luxury package with Navigation and bells and whistles that the performance crowd may not want for weight or price.
Optional performance package with carbon fiber hood, larger wheels, and if you are feeling real aggressive a GM performance parts water injection kit.

GM you have the parts, and have a winner with the Camaro. Why wait, and play games with the market. Crank production up and seize on the opportunity by keeping demand alive for a v6 well into the future!

that is genius! too bad itll never happen :(

84-87 GNs were all black. T Types and Turbo Ts were the ones with all the colors. I doubt they will make one. It's probably for the best though. They would most likely ruin it.

Yeah, that's my bad. I was thinking about the Turbo Regals.

You were still somewhat correct. The 82 GN wasn't all black.


http://www.beforeblack.net/images/rare82gn.gif

that buick shouts " the designer was looking at a 5 series" tail lights look exactly the same, body lines and head lights look a lot like...

You were still somewhat correct. The 82 GN wasn't all black.


http://www.beforeblack.net/images/rare82gn.gif

If I recall correctly, the turbocharged engine wasn't standard equipment until 1984, which was a hot air setup.

You are right on the standard part. A few of the 82s came turbo charged but it was a Sport Coupe option. They were carbed as well.


Now that you mention it I do see some BMW resemblance.

BMW isn't exactly a bad car to look like...

As a former Grand National owner, I really hope not.

The "Regal" is actually an Opel Insignia with a Buick grille. It's FWD, it's four-doors and the styling is all wrong.

It would be so much worse than the LSX GTO was to the GTO name.

You were still somewhat correct. The 82 GN wasn't all black.


http://www.beforeblack.net/images/rare82gn.gif
also wasn't turbocharged

GN's are cool, therefore GM wont make it unless they make it ugly and ruin another name

Why is it everyone is always "OMG GN GN GN!!!!" with every new thing that comes out of Buick regardless of platform, configuration, so on and so forth?

some of the rumored images floating around the internet

http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9864/buickgscoupesmallbnf2.jpg

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/1522/buickgsxcoupesmalluq3.jpg

http://popularhotrodding.com/features/0510phr_spread_z.jpg
that looks pretty cool. It would be badass if they broke the GSX back :drive:
Build the Grand National,but open a new plant and use the Camaro chassis:

*Camaro chassis with new body sculpting
*Alumatec V6 (Camaro base engine), and turbo-charge it! It is already forged. With direct injection, vvt and active fuel management. It is a very high tech engine begging to be boosted from its 300 horse.
*Leather interior.
*Black!
Optional luxury package with Navigation and bells and whistles that the performance crowd may not want for weight or price.
Optional performance package with carbon fiber hood, larger wheels, and if you are feeling real aggressive a GM performance parts water injection kit.

GM you have the parts, and have a winner with the Camaro. Why wait, and play games with the market. Crank production up and seize on the opportunity by keeping demand alive for a v6 well into the future!
^^^ I'm with this guy, I would order one if they did it like that^^^
Why is it everyone is always "OMG GN GN GN!!!!" with every new thing that comes out of Buick regardless of platform, configuration, so on and so forth?

Because GN was a american Icon. Buick still doesn't have a muscle car and it could use one to keep it sales up and get a younger audience looking at buick. Might even help get GM out of this problem. :drive:

Because GN was a american Icon. Buick still doesn't have a muscle car and it could use one to keep it sales up and get a younger audience looking at buick. Might even help get GM out of this problem. :drive:

Yeah, I realize the significance of the GN. However, to even think Buick would turn this FWD jelly bean into a GN is practically blasphemous; it doesn't take a genius to figure out that GM would probably not just slap a GN badge on a weaksauce FWD platform and think they could get away with it.

We've heard nothing about GM bringing a GN back into the picture and have no reason to believe they will do so in the future. Now is a terrible time to bring a sports car with more of a 'cult' following into the fray anyways. When GM brings a boosted, low displacement, DI, v6 motor into production, then possibly a GN would be a good "muscle" platform to show it off. We've heard no such news of a motor that fits said description.

Either way, randomly blindsiding the public with a nameplate like "Grand National" is a rather terrible business plan. If they are going to make a GN, we will hear about it far in advance.

Yeah, I realize the significance of the GN. However, to even think Buick would turn this FWD jelly bean into a GN is practically blasphemous; it doesn't take a genius to figure out that GM would probably not just slap a GN badge on a weaksauce FWD platform and think they could get away with it.

We've heard nothing about GM bringing a GN back into the picture and have no reason to believe they will do so in the future. Now is a terrible time to bring a sports car with more of a 'cult' following into the fray anyways. When GM brings a boosted, low displacement, DI, v6 motor into production, then possibly a GN would be a good "muscle" platform to show it off. We've heard no such news of a motor that fits said description.

Either way, randomly blindsiding the public with a nameplate like "Grand National" is a rather terrible business plan. If they are going to make a GN, we will hear about it far in advance.

true, I think they should make a GSX on the camaro platform as buick's muscle car. That would be a cool car. :drive:

Chances are they wont do it right, so I would rather they just left it alone.

Make it a GS, not a GN.

IMO, it would be a GN in name only. The drivetrain may be infinitely better than the original........but it won't touch the original in the styling department. It'll look like every other bland, melted corners-mobile out there on the street. Even if that's sort of in keeping with the original's MO, it will be disappointing.

Now, if they can produce something with styling similar to the concept pics posted above, then they'd definitely have something.......and I'll eat my words.........happily. :D

It would be cool if they brought it back, but the problem is this car had muscle written on it back then. All the sharp angles and lines. The cars out now are too rounded and bubbly looking. The pictures above, sorry to say, look like a modified holden with m3 side fenders. They could use some pointers from the new camaro and somewhat base the design off the original, or at least some significant cues. As long as they didnt screw up like dodge did with the charger. Even with ford bringing back the SHO model, I wish they had done something a little bit more stand-alone-ish. The suggestion of the turbo'd camaro v6 could be a good idea, or maybe... a turbocharged GNX ls3?. Lets not forget the t tops that came on the original, what are your thoughts on that part for a new GN? It would have to be something to look apart and more edgy than whats out there right now. ...juuust my .02

If they did anything it would be a GS, they'd never do GN again..period

It would be a good idea as long as they don't screw it up

I believe the insignia chassis is capable of supporting FWD and AWD. Either way it's a transverse engine mount and therefore is unfortunate.

I don't think they should bring back the GN name. BUT, i do think they should make a twin turbo 3.6 400+hp (which should be CAKE with this engine, i mean thats hardly asking anything at all) and make it AWD with a 30/70 split for a rear wheel drive performance biased feel, while retaining ALL of the benefits of AWD. I mean, i think you all hear AWD and you start thinking Oh no! No powerslides, no burn outs! No FUN!!!! WRONG. Maybe no burn outs, but i can live without them.

*fingers crossed*

They plan on doing a GS version, that has been released, if we get lucky it will come with the new Cady turbo 6.