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vtirocz
09-21-2009, 08:52 PM
http://www.motortrend.com/auto_news/112_0909_chevrolet_camaro_z28_is_go/index.html

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 is GO!
Supercharged 556hp Camaro to take on Shelby GT500
January 01, 1900

Click to view GalleryGM design chief Ed Welburn confirmed to us at the Frankfurt Show that the Camaro Z28 program is back on track. As we reported back in April, the Z28 was basically completed, with the design signed off, but the final engineering and certification work was put on hold as GM's financial situation spun out of control.

With GM now out of bankruptcy, the Z28 program has been restarted. Why? Insiders say the Z28 business case now makes sense because the new UAW contracts have reduced the labor costs on the car to the point where GM feels it can price it competitively -- and far enough away from Corvette. That's the good news. The bad news is EPA certification and GM durability requirements mean the Z28 is unlikely to go on sale until late 2011.

Our images are very close to the final signed-off design, based on photos of a scale clay model we've seen. Key details to note are the deeper front bumper fascia, with larger front aperture under the grille and the spotlights mounted in deep vents on either side. The Z28 also gets a different grille mesh compared with that of a standard Camaro.

At the rear is a taller lip spoiler that runs the full width of the car. A new rear-bumper fascia features a deeper section with integrated exhaust outlets. The wheels are 20-inchers with an aggressive "tuning-fork" five-spoke pattern.

A new hood features a large, forward-facing scoop. Underneath is the 6.2-liter supercharged LSA V-8 that also powers the Cadillac CTS-V. As we have already confirmed, this is quite a powerplant, delivering 556 horsepower at 6100 rpm and 551 pound-feet of torque at 3800 rpm.

The near-4300-pound CTS-V thunders from 0 to 60 mph in 4.1 seconds and nails the quarter mile in 12.3 seconds (automatic) or 12.4 seconds (manual). Top speed is limited to 175 mph in the auto (to preserve the tranny), but the manual will storm to an autobahn-melting 193 mph. As the Z/28 will weigh 200 to 300 pounds less than the CTS-V, it may nail 60 mph in 3.9 seconds and run the quarter in the very low 12s. This Z28 could be the fastest Chevy ponycar since the legendary ZL-1-powered COPO 9560 Camaros built 40 years ago.

The Z28 is likely to only be available with a six speed manual transmission, unless GM can piggyback some of the car's certification on work already done for the CTS-V to get the automatic into the range at low cost.


Detoxx03
09-21-2009, 09:12 PM
Wooo Hooo. Maybe by then it can be my DD.

kozak
09-21-2009, 09:13 PM
Beat me to it.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/21/report-supercharged-chevrolet-camaro-z-28-cometh-again-for-re/


shtnfrds
09-21-2009, 09:18 PM
i like how people are already commenting on no way it will have more power than the vette. like the vette wont get an increase. standard ls9 in a z06 anyone?

Chadder
09-21-2009, 09:20 PM
Nice date on that motortrend article.

90TSiAWD
09-21-2009, 09:27 PM
Nice date on that motortrend article.

Yeah I think they forgot to correct it.

This is awesome can't wait to see it! Hopefully they can lighten it up and make it handle better.

david068513
09-21-2009, 09:27 PM
Hell Yea!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D

Out Of Focus
09-21-2009, 09:37 PM
Woo Hoo! Time to start saving up for a used one

Anyone else notice the date

January 01, 1900

:lol:

XxGarbSxX
09-21-2009, 09:45 PM
The front grille is questionable for me. Kind of looks like a Dodge wearing a bow tie.

shtnfrds
09-21-2009, 10:41 PM
i still say the center of the grill needs to be a bit more recessed. other than that, the camaros are really growing on me now that i can see them out in the real world.

who else thinks z28=ls7, z06 ls9 zr1=???

violent_celerity
09-21-2009, 10:43 PM
motor trends rendering looks much better IMO.

01SuperSport
09-21-2009, 11:36 PM
Nice!!! I think the LS9 should be in the Z28. The ZR1 just came out and they won't take out the engine to put in the Z06.

90TSiAWD
09-21-2009, 11:39 PM
i still say the center of the grill needs to be a bit more recessed. other than that, the camaros are really growing on me now that i can see them out in the real world.

who else thinks z28=ls7, z06 ls9 zr1=???

Probably, just because I think the LS7 has more potential.

nitr0racing21
09-21-2009, 11:58 PM
price?

Mystic 98 TA
09-21-2009, 11:59 PM
Damn, and just when I had made up my mind to save for a Corvette.... they throw this up!! It tears me up inside... imagine the kinda numbers you can put down with intake, cat-back and pulley swap!

90TSiAWD
09-22-2009, 12:01 AM
price?

Says close to the GT500 so around 50k.

LEO
09-22-2009, 12:15 AM
Looks good and plenty of power and potential, I like it.

djsanchez2
09-22-2009, 01:24 AM
Why does the date say Jan 01, 1900?

I hope all goes as planned, i might be in the market and able to afford one by the projected released date of late 2011. :D I really hope they work out the suspension to be a much more full rounded package able to handle drag, track days, autoX etc.

KidFromThePast
09-22-2009, 04:25 AM
I'm excited to see that the Z is coming out. What i'm not excited about is me being a broke ass and not being able to buy one. :(

Dutchman427
09-22-2009, 09:40 AM
Exellent...there will be one sitting next to the 02 SS when they come out.

Tainted
09-22-2009, 11:43 AM
lmao its almost as heavy as the fuckin cadillac. if the caddy is 4200 and the z28 is 200-300 lbs less thats still comming in at 3900lbs


fail gm...again

that 556hp lsa is nice but come on its still a big ass lumbering giant of a car.

nitr0racing21
09-22-2009, 11:47 AM
Is it going to be the LSA?

kozak
09-22-2009, 11:48 AM
Wait... the LSA doesn't have forged internals does it.

richardvieiracoelho
09-22-2009, 11:55 AM
well the ss is already fast they just have not been running as they should since the dealer filled it with 87 octane instead of 93 the car's PCM detuned itself,and then when owners introduced the 93 octane the PCM did not engage the OEM tune,so the dealers have been taking them back in and retuning,now they are hitting the 13's falt and high 12's now tha is awesome,the gt500 barely beats the SS we will see when it's up against it's big brother the z28,well you know what i mean lol.

Dutchman427
09-22-2009, 12:37 PM
I do not see this as a GM Failure. If they do indeed come out with these Z/28. They will sell quick.

Gaunt
09-22-2009, 01:41 PM
First thing I would do is blower swap that bitch.

02NBMFormula
09-22-2009, 02:17 PM
First thing I would do is blower swap that bitch.

x2, can you say kenne bell?:devil:

VTC_WS6
09-22-2009, 02:25 PM
It's a fact.. I WILL own one of the first if/when it is released!

Dutchman427
09-22-2009, 03:35 PM
I called GM today and GM Performance. Both parties have NO information on the Z/28. Nothing on GM Gobal Connect either. If I could get an answer I would have one pre-ordered today. It will either be Black with white stripes or if they come out with an electron blue with white stripes. awww shitttt.

violent_celerity
09-22-2009, 04:15 PM
Wait... the LSA doesn't have forged internals does it.

LSA has forged internals, just a few steel peices instead of titanium like the LS9.

Gaunt
09-22-2009, 04:26 PM
x2, can you say kenne bell?:devil:

Yes, twin screw was what I had in mind.

I'm sure people more knowledgeable on the subject can chime in, but either that or something Whipple branded, but I honestly haven't looked at what either company offers as far as LSA engines go, so I could be talking out of my ass (likely).

Detoxx03
09-22-2009, 04:41 PM
x2, can you say kenne bell?:devil:

Or Whipple

speedshifterNC
09-22-2009, 05:53 PM
forget that I'm already thinking about twin turbos..the hood has to go too...hate that scoop

djsanchez2
09-22-2009, 06:11 PM
LSA has forged internals, just a few steel peices instead of titanium like the LS9.

Negative it has forged powdered metal rods and Hypereutectic pistons.

Revelation Z28
09-22-2009, 07:03 PM
they should make it a cowl hood with heat vents in the rear

ULTIMATEORANGESS
09-22-2009, 08:43 PM
good to see GM growing some balls again.

speedshifterNC
09-22-2009, 09:22 PM
they should make it a cowl hood with heat vents in the rear


I like this idea

kozak
09-23-2009, 12:14 AM
Negative it has forged powdered metal rods and Hypereutectic pistons.

Correct I just checked today it has cast alum pistons. HOwever it does have a larger heat exchanger than the LS9.

bamalt1
09-23-2009, 01:30 AM
I'd rather have the V. You could make some serious cash around here with a pullied CTS-V.

06X6spdGTO
09-23-2009, 10:37 PM
So will the Z28 Share the same platform as the 2010 CTS-V Coupe???

So will GM finally start putting a Real REAR end in cars next??? a 12bolt IRS would be GREAT!!!

badjuju342
09-23-2009, 11:41 PM
I know now what I must do.....:D

ChaseSS
09-24-2009, 12:44 AM
I know now what I must do.....:D

as do I.... As do I my friend :chug:

nitr0racing21
09-24-2009, 01:14 AM
^^^^^ WHAT? I dont get it?

StoleIt
09-24-2009, 01:53 AM
If it's priced in the 40's I would totally do a sideways trade with my current Z.

PowershifterNC
09-24-2009, 12:28 PM
^^^^^ WHAT? I dont get it?


we're all excited because the z28, if under 50k is within grasp for many who've been wanting a factory street brawler like this from GM ever since Ford trumped us with the Terminator.

Gaunt
09-24-2009, 01:27 PM
Well, I mean, it is probably going to be competitive with the GT500, so I wouldn't doubt the affordability of it...

But you never know these things until a brochure actually comes out :/

Let alone markup.

unit213
09-24-2009, 02:26 PM
A $50K price tag isn't worth it IMO. It's the same old song and dance...buy a base model and dump $5K into a shorty and $10K in mods. You'll end up spending less and having 800hp.

PowershifterNC
09-24-2009, 02:36 PM
don't spoil our thunder unit..I had them going... knowing what you said is correct, but it only becomes clear after the initial excitement of this announcement wears off

nitr0racing21
09-24-2009, 02:42 PM
A $50K price tag isn't worth it IMO. It's the same old song and dance...buy a base model and dump $5K into a shorty and $10K in mods. You'll end up spending less and having 800hp.


Do I sense jealously????:gtfo:






jk unit this site wouldn't be the same if you weren't here

unit213
09-24-2009, 02:44 PM
Do I sense jealously????:gtfo:






jk unit this site wouldn't be the same if you weren't here

No jealousy here...you know that. :nod: I'm waiting to see what the Z28
has to offer. Remember, my previous car was a Z28. I wouldn't mind having
another. ;)

Gaunt
09-24-2009, 04:06 PM
No jealousy here...you know that. :nod: I'm waiting to see what the Z28
has to offer. Remember, my previous car was a Z28. I wouldn't mind having
another. ;)

I'm sure this will piss off a few members whose names I don't remember at this time...

But which car is going to have better "potential"... GT500 or the new Z28? No real way of knowing quite yet... but still, the question stands.

I mean... potential is one of the bigger argument points for even getting a GT500 in the first place, right? At least, that's what I gleaned from the bickering that flies around here anyway.

nitr0racing21
09-24-2009, 04:09 PM
My real question is how much boost will the Z28 have stock?

ChaseSS
09-24-2009, 05:41 PM
You guys are missing it.....

GM feels it can price it competitively -- and far enough away from Corvette.

Corvette starts @ $48k, right now... so it won't be 50k... try mid to low $40's (in my opinion of course)

unit213
09-24-2009, 06:26 PM
I'm sure this will piss off a few members whose names I don't remember at this time...

But which car is going to have better "potential"... GT500 or the new Z28? No real way of knowing quite yet... but still, the question stands.

I mean... potential is one of the bigger argument points for even getting a GT500 in the first place, right? At least, that's what I gleaned from the bickering that flies around here anyway.

I don't have the answer, but I do have a few thoughts on that subject.
There actually is no answer. It's a matter of opinion.


The Z28 will have the advantage because of the cubic inches.
Will the engine in the Z28 be reliable at 700rwhp with stock internals.
They are both land yachts so throw the weight discussion out.

As long as the Z28 can hold a lot of power with stock internals, my vote would be for the Camaro.

Is there mention of the Z28 having an automatic trans? I'm dying for a car with an automatic in it. I already have one stick shift car. That's enough for me.

kain01
09-24-2009, 07:05 PM
You guys are missing it.....



Corvette starts @ $48k, right now... so it won't be 50k... try mid to low $40's (in my opinion of course)

Hopefully they aren't meaning keeping the top of the heap Camaro priced lower than the top of the heap Corvette. Cause you can get a lot of Camaro for under 103k.

Irunelevens
09-24-2009, 08:36 PM
I don't have the answer, but I do have a few thoughts on that subject.
There actually is no answer. It's a matter of opinion.


The Z28 will have the advantage because of the cubic inches.
Will the engine in the Z28 be reliable at 700rwhp with stock internals.
They are both land yachts so throw the weight discussion out.

As long as the Z28 can hold a lot of power with stock internals, my vote would be for the Camaro.

Is there mention of the Z28 having an automatic trans? I'm dying for a car with an automatic in it. I already have one stick shift car. That's enough for me.

Do you really think the LSA can hold as much as the GT500's DOHC 5.4? The LSA has powdered metal rods and hyper pistons, so I don't know that it can take the same amount of abuse.

unit213
09-25-2009, 06:34 AM
Do you really think the LSA can hold as much as the GT500's DOHC 5.4? The LSA has powdered metal rods and hyper pistons, so I don't know that it can take the same amount of abuse.

Don't know. The GT500's 5.4 can only hold about 700rwhp safely
and the rpm needs to stay real low. We'll see what the Z28 can do.
I'm not a LSA expert by any means.

Blakbird24
09-25-2009, 06:01 PM
Do you really think the LSA can hold as much as the GT500's DOHC 5.4? The LSA has powdered metal rods and hyper pistons, so I don't know that it can take the same amount of abuse.

Remember, the LSA has more cubes. That means less psi for a given power level.

At least, that's how it works in theory.

There's a guy on CadillacForums with a CTS-V that dynoed over 700rwhp on a stock bottom end. It's still running strong, though it's only been about two months if I recall.

WSsick
09-26-2009, 01:39 PM
:drool: FINALLYYYYY

Spoolin
09-26-2009, 07:23 PM
What am I missing here? Why is everyone talking about swapping OUT the TVS 1900? Is there a thread I missed on Catastrophic failures? Most experiences I've had with the TVS are really good. :confused:

I'm happy GM decided to go ahead with this too! :nod:

unit213
09-28-2009, 10:23 AM
What am I missing here? Why is everyone talking about swapping OUT the TVS 1900? Is there a thread I missed on Catastrophic failures? Most experiences I've had with the TVS are really good. :confused:

The blower is too small IMO. The TVS is fine for stock internals I guess, but
that's no fun. :devil: :D

R W B
09-30-2009, 08:44 PM
Cant wait for the Z28 to come out. I hope they offer a convertible option. I know I'm young but I hate hardtops, lol. Within 2 year, I really should be able to own one of these when they come out.

Don't know. The GT500's 5.4 can only hold about 700rwhp safely
and the rpm needs to stay real low. We'll see what the Z28 can do.
I'm not a LSA expert by any means.

Really? The 5.4 can only hold 700whp safely? Ive always heard from people including a couple of local GT500 owners that it can hold over 900whp without problems. I thought I read EVO motorsports or something like that hit 1200whp on a stock engine(after blowing a few with the wrong tune).