Dyno & Bench Racing Forum - what will i put down and run? i live in cobra town!
green96ta
09-29-2009, 04:43 PM
ok. this will be a long post but i need some insight on what my car is gonna do becuase i live in mustang central. i live in a VERY small town. But yet there are 3 yes three 03-04 cobras in town. and at least 3 of the na cobras. im not worried about them ill eat them for a midnight snack. here is what im gonna have after the mod fest.
engine
Stock displacement 4 bolt main LT1, gasket matched heads, fully ported intake, 52mm tb, ported maf, ram air, cc503, 1.6rr, crane springs, EWP, egr delete, air delete, mad z28 tune, 30 lb injectors, lt4 km, 160 stat, rev limiter set at 6300.
Transmission
Kevlar bands, b&m shift kit, hardened input and output shafts, basically its built. lol. 2400-2800 stall.
Exhaust
Pacesetter Full race long tubes and ORY, Magnaflow catback.
Differential
373s
Suspension
Subframe Connectors, Lakewood lower control arms, lca relo brackets, eibach springs, poly motor mounts and trans mount. poly sway bushings front and rear.
Thats about it. on the gears a cold air and a 2 1/4 dual exhaust setup i ran 13.56. THAT WAS WITH THOSE MODS ONLY!! every other mod listed is new and has not been to the track.
There is one cobra that has a pulley and full exhaust, would like to beat him N/A but dont think i can. im thinking ill have to put some spray into the mix.
The short block i used is a stock 4 bolt main, so do you all think i will be ok with these mods and a 150 wet shot? im thinking with the wet shot ill be able to get him by 2 cars or better..
JayplaySS2
09-29-2009, 05:14 PM
N/A...no. Run the 150 shot and that should hold them off if they are still running the stock blower. The average pullied Cobra should run 11.80's to 12.50's @ 116-120. Fun cars to own and run. ;)
NemeSS
09-29-2009, 06:04 PM
gonna need spray for the blower cobras, the other n/a ones.
may beat them n/a. but spray em anyway :devil:
the jester 812
09-29-2009, 09:42 PM
yeah, those charged cobras are sick, I've always been a die hard Chevy guy, but dammit those 03-04 cobras are so damn easy to make fast. you've got some work on your hands to keep up with them. like jay said, if they are on the stock blower a 150 shot MIGHT hold them off, but if they port that blower and pulley it, my guess is you will be lookin at some taillights. you see the setup in my sig, that plus a 100 shot is all so i can hang with the local cobra and gt500 boys.
green96ta
09-29-2009, 10:15 PM
well i plan on puttin the shot on, just wanted some input. with the set up i have, i mean im a full bolt on, ported intake, throttle body and a good amount of suspension with the cam and stall im REALLY hoping that i can hit 12.2 ish naturally aspirated. theres a lot of guys running that with less done than what i have. or am i wrong?
Stopsign32v
09-29-2009, 10:31 PM
You should be a good race for a bolt on/geared 05 GT.
green96ta
09-29-2009, 10:52 PM
You should be a good race for a bolt on/geared 05 GT.
correct me if im wrong but that would be about the same as a pullied only or full exhaust only 03-04 cobra. right? pullied OR exhaust they usually run around 12.2-12.5 right?
Stopsign32v
09-30-2009, 12:57 AM
You should be around mid 12's, yes.
Bugsy
09-30-2009, 12:58 AM
correct me if im wrong but that would be about the same as a pullied only or full exhaust only 03-04 cobra. right? pullied OR exhaust they usually run around 12.2-12.5 right?
Personally, if I really want to play with the Termis with an LT1, I'd go with more cubes, very good heads, AND juice. It doesn't take much in the way of mods to take down a stock Terminator(with an LS1), but, obviously, more work to do so with an LT1. Problem is, even after you attain stock-Termi-conquering-performance, good luck finding a stock one! In my location, in addition to my best friend's, I know of five other '03-'04 Cobras.....and NONE of them are stock. They're so mod-friendly, it eludes me why anyone would want to buy one and keep it stock. Good luck with your project, but I really think you need to make more power on motor than you do now, then add the spray on top of that, if you really want to go toe-to-toe with modded Terminators.
green96ta
09-30-2009, 11:05 AM
take a look at this vid, this cobra gained almost twice as much on the hypertech as it did a pulley.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXeF4kZZ6jg
Stopsign32v
09-30-2009, 11:20 AM
^ I would not take something you see on a TV show seriously.
green96ta
09-30-2009, 11:27 AM
i normally wouldnt, but they did dyno it after every single mod....
Stopsign32v
09-30-2009, 12:13 PM
Not saying they did but they could calibrate the dyno to say whatever they wanted it to. Theres no telling how much Hypertech paid them to advertise their product.
Bitemark46
09-30-2009, 01:44 PM
You don't have to worry about the 03/04 cobras. Its the n/a ones that getcha. ;)
lol.
Stopsign32v
09-30-2009, 02:01 PM
You don't have to worry about the 03/04 cobras. Its the n/a ones that getcha. ;)
lol.
:nod: I put on some GT emblems. Those snakes scare the poor GM guys too often.
99TNA
09-30-2009, 02:33 PM
i beleive the vid, the t/a was runnin' with my boys 03 cobra he tunned it on sct and put the 2.8 pully on n that b!tch rollllllssss, so now im lookin for a few other bolt on i can throw in to at least be beside it.
Stopsign32v
09-30-2009, 03:17 PM
i beleive the vid, the t/a was runnin' with my boys 03 cobra he tunned it on sct and put the 2.8 pully on n that b!tch rollllllssss, so now im lookin for a few other bolt on i can throw in to at least be beside it.
Wtf are you trying to say? :confused:
Some t/a in a video was racing your son's (or boyfriend) 03 cobra. The t/a had his tune done on top of a sct and then he installed a 2.8 pulley somewhere? End result is the t/a (aka b!tch) rolllllllllllllllllllsssssssssssssss? Was the driver hurt? I assume the t/a was totaled?
green96ta
10-01-2009, 01:27 AM
im not afraid of cobras. there easy to make fast thats it. plus the person i want to beat is a single guy that doesnt have a family and a kid. he has more than twice what i have in my car in his.
lemons12
10-01-2009, 01:43 AM
There are stock Eaton cars running low 10s... And there are pullied/ported cobras running mid 12s, along with some bone stock cobras running mid 12s...
If you are running from a dig with tires you dont have much to worry about..
Run them from a roll and you better bring your A game.. IMO a mild bolt on cobra would make you look silly..
FWIW I have a buddy that isnt that great of a driver.. he went 7.7@90mph w/ a 1.75 sixty time..with full exhaust intake water cooled and has a pulley that makes around 11-12lbs (most pullied cobras make around 16lbs from what I know).. He has cut a couple low-mid 1.6s but misses 3rd gear every time..
Cobras are not like fbodys.. you give me mods on an fbody and i can tell you almost exactly what it will run everytime.. cobras are not as consistent.. dyno numbers dont tell anywhere near the truth usually and the irs/manual combo play a big part in ETs...
I will tell you that you shouldnt fucking with properly set up cobras from a roll though, especially since your an a4... My buddies gave my last H/C car a run for its money.. i had the faster car, but not by much.. I ran 7.2@95.5 spinning NA and he was right with me from 50-120mph..
99TNA
10-01-2009, 04:58 PM
im jus lookin for the right set up to be able to stick next to him by stayin N/A his best time down the track was 11.6 my best has only been an 12.5 but for 193k on factory block and heads......
lemons12
10-01-2009, 08:22 PM
im jus lookin for the right set up to be able to stick next to him by stayin N/A his best time down the track was 11.6 my best has only been an 12.5 but for 193k on factory block and heads......
Doesnt matter if he has 10k miles on after market heads and a fully forged bottom end while you have 400k miles on bone stock bottom end and stock heads, if he is faster he is faster..
Are you trying to race the cobra from a dig or from a roll? While staying beside him NA of course.
99TNA
10-02-2009, 07:06 PM
a roll, hahaha none of us get traction from a stop
lemons12
10-02-2009, 07:13 PM
a roll, hahaha none of us get traction from a stop
Then mod your cars more wisely.
From a roll you are fucked NA. Are you an m6 or an a4?
green96ta
10-02-2009, 11:35 PM
you almost NEVER want to race a cobra from a roll. not unless you have a power adder. even i know those things are REDICULOUS from a roll. Ill prolly end up racing him from a roll but by that time my car will be drinking protein shakes....
lemons12
10-02-2009, 11:55 PM
you almost NEVER want to race a cobra from a roll. not unless you have a power adder. even i know those things are REDICULOUS from a roll. Ill prolly end up racing him from a roll but by that time my car will be drinking protein shakes....
No, Zo6s are ridiculous from a roll. A stock Z will make a stock cobra look silly from a roll.. It takes a bolt on cobra to hang with, not beat.. hang with a stock Z.
It doesn't take a power adder either it just takes more than what you or the other guy have.
Stopsign32v
10-03-2009, 12:08 AM
I agree, Cobras are much much much much MUCH more deadly from a dead stop if they have sticky tires. From a roll they are average. Now a Corvette from a roll is nothing to sneeze at.
lemons12
10-03-2009, 12:12 AM
I agree, Cobras are much much much much MUCH more deadly from a dead stop if they have sticky tires. From a roll they are average. Now a Corvette from a roll is nothing to sneeze at.
That is true.. People say cobras can't launch for shit.. No, they can cut VERY good sixty foots. Usually much better than fbodys with the same tires.
Stopsign32v
10-03-2009, 12:31 AM
That is true.. People say cobras can't launch for shit.. No, they can cut VERY good sixty foots. Usually much better than fbodys with the same tires.
I can assure you my Cobra has no problem at all cutting good 60's. :devil: And I can hook up just fine on the street too. :nod: Now from a roll my car isn't all that. Mainly because of the gearing.
lemons12
10-03-2009, 12:46 AM
I can assure you my Cobra has no problem at all cutting good 60's. :devil: And I can hook up just fine on the street too. :nod: Now from a roll my car isn't all that. Mainly because of the gearing.
Yea, I'm sure its fast........ Until you line up next to a TT mustang GT making 531rwhp that runs mid 8s@85mph........ :chug:
The Manalishi
10-03-2009, 02:05 AM
I can assure you my Cobra has no problem at all cutting good 60's. :devil: And I can hook up just fine on the street too. :nod: Now from a roll my car isn't all that. Mainly because of the gearing.
Your shit is a roach. :devil:
lemons12
10-03-2009, 02:07 AM
You're shit is a roach. :devil:
You are shit is a roach?
:lol:
The Manalishi
10-03-2009, 02:15 AM
You are shit is a roach?
:lol:
:bang::bang::bang: Fixed, damn it. Too many beers. Way too many.
lemons12
10-03-2009, 02:57 AM
:bang::bang::bang: Fixed, damn it. Too many beers. Way too many.
I hear ya, happens to the best of us! :lol:
unit213
10-03-2009, 05:55 AM
...as for the Horsepower TV thing... :jest:
green96ta
10-03-2009, 08:42 AM
now see this guy that im wanting to beat with the headers and exhaust and a pulley walks around talking about how he walked a z06 from a roll on the parkway.
99TNA
10-03-2009, 11:15 AM
Then mod your cars more wisely.
From a roll you are fucked NA. Are you an m6 or an a4?
M6 car
The Manalishi
10-03-2009, 12:51 PM
...as for the Horsepower TV thing... :jest:
Don't hate cause they got more HP from a handheld than anyone else ever will. They got skillz.
unit213
10-03-2009, 01:07 PM
They got skillz.
They got paid advertising too. :D
The Manalishi
10-03-2009, 01:17 PM
They got paid advertising too. :D
Money buys horsepower, if it doesn't you can always find a happier dyno. :D
Gaunt
10-03-2009, 01:28 PM
You are shit is a roach?
:lol:
Haha fuck, why did that make me lol
Anyway, who ever said Cobras couldn't cut good 60 fts? I always assumed once the wheel hop issue was dealt with, it was sunshine and rainbows from there on.
Stopsign32v
10-03-2009, 03:46 PM
Yea, I'm sure its fast........ Until you line up next to a TT mustang GT making 531rwhp that runs mid 8s@85mph........ :chug:
:lol: Can't wait to see the outcome. He would have a bad bad day if I rolled out the blue car.
Stopsign32v
10-03-2009, 03:47 PM
Haha fuck, why did that make me lol
Anyway, who ever said Cobras couldn't cut good 60 fts? I always assumed once the wheel hop issue was dealt with, it was sunshine and rainbows from there on.
I sent my IRS to California about 6 years ago. LOL
It never came back.
lemons12
10-04-2009, 12:38 AM
now see this guy that im wanting to beat with the headers and exhaust and a pulley walks around talking about how he walked a z06 from a roll on the parkway.
If he has a decent pulley on there he might very well have walked off from a Z..
Haha fuck, why did that make me lol
Anyway, who ever said Cobras couldn't cut good 60 fts? I always assumed once the wheel hop issue was dealt with, it was sunshine and rainbows from there on.
Made me :lol: also..
I don't know.. A lot of people say that and some use it as an excuse.
:lol: Can't wait to see the outcome. He would have a bad bad day if I rolled out the blue car.
I still can't wait to see the outcome.... :ripped:
The Manalishi
10-04-2009, 01:26 AM
Haha fuck, why did that make me lol
Made me :lol: also..
Laugh it up you bastards. :chug:
lemons12
10-04-2009, 01:42 AM
Laugh it up you bastards. :chug:
We are... And of course at your expense! Makes it that much better..
:jest:
The Manalishi
10-04-2009, 01:50 AM
We are... And of course at your expense! Makes it that much better..
:jest:
Touche! I'm sure I'd be doing the same shit if you had done it. :chug: