Tools & Fabrication - worst fabrication EVER

ABSOLUTLE WORST FAB JOB I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!


i'm not sure if it's against forum rules, but you HAVE to look at this.

WHO GAVE THIS KID A WELDER AND WHAT WAS HE THINKING?!?!?!??!

of course, it's a honda forum.

http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/f3/f14/95781-turbo-flange-crumbled.html

WOW!!! :lol:

It is pretty stupid why he asked about what was wrong. Looks pretty obvious to me.

ABSOLUTLE WORST FAB JOB I HAVE EVER SEEN!!!!!!!!!!!!


i'm not sure if it's against forum rules, but you HAVE to look at this.

WHO GAVE THIS KID A WELDER AND WHAT WAS HE THINKING?!?!?!??!

of course, it's a honda forum.

http://www.homemadeturbo.com/forum/f3/f14/95781-turbo-flange-crumbled.html

hmmm... why were you reading a honda forum.....?
:secret2: :suspiciou

Looks like he used a small mig with flux core wire, IMO is about worthless

Looks like he used a small mig with flux core wire, IMO is about worthless


Worthless, about like his "custom" turbo kit

IMO if u can mig good, you can use a 110v welder (within its limits) to weld just about anything. i weld alot so i have alot of experience in it.

sadly ,that fabrication sucks major!!!!! . that kid= fail. he should have gotten the right stuff first and not tried to cheap out.

HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!! THAT MADE MY DAY!

I really needed this after a long day at work!!

Funniest damn thing ive seen in a LONG time! I was fabricating things better at 12 years old in my dads shop! lol, i guess atleast he's trying... most people wont even try. Gotta give him credit for that.

damn and he had the nerve to post on the internet asking what had happened.

Wow, an I think my welding sucks!

IMO if u can mig good, you can use a 110v welder (within its limits) to weld just about anything. i weld alot so i have alot of experience in it.

sadly ,that fabrication sucks major!!!!! . that kid= fail. he should have gotten the right stuff first and not tried to cheap out.

Oh I agree, I have a small 135 Hobart with a 75/25 mix gas and is welds like a dream. But the flux core wire is nasty

I will always comend someone for trying, as there are things I would not even think of attempting. As for the results, at least if he learns then its was a useful effort, if he does not, then he should give it up.

I will always comend someone for trying, as there are things I would not even think of attempting. As for the results, at least if he learns then its was a useful effort, if he does not, then he should give it up.

Yep, we all start somewhere.

Guess he learned not to weld cast metal with FCAW.

hahahah made my day...gotta love them honda guys!!!

HOLY SH!T........hahahaha

Fail.

That's really something! WOW
Just think all his friends are just like him I bet = window licker.

I've seen $hit like that @ a powdercoating shop! And, it was done at a "professional" Honda "hopup" garage..

Wow thats way more than no gas turned on

Thats about what I would expect for the Import crowd.

it almost looks like the flange was cast iron:huh:

yeah . if u look closely u can see it was a cast flange. so its not realy the poor guys fault.

must have not knows it was a cast flange+his expert welding= that

yeah looks just like that big cast iron skillet on the bottom

Thats about what I would expect for the Import crowd.

I Resent that statement... SOME import owners, do it the right way...

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c321/MeanGreenS13/HPIM2625-1.jpg

i thought this was an LS board?

lol it is... but theres nothing wrong with a tastefully done import...

the OP's found import is not tastefully done... lol

^^ Agreed. Clean car!

Thats about what I would expect for the Import crowd.

Ignorant statement. Go to TX2K10 and see how your generalization stacks up.

some people are hard headed... I enjoy anything fast... but i have to be creative when I do mine... thats why ive got the plans for the LS2 H/C/I SN95 Mustang hahaha

Man that is way worse then the first time my dad let me weld when I was 14! Everything on that looks like serious crap. How can you put something into service that looks like that? All your friends would make fun of you.

sweet jesus... the shorter list is what he did right. gotta give him credit though, i know my first attempts were anything but pretty but damn they at least held. that flange was a ticking time bomb, funny how you get what you pay for.

hopefully he wont do that again...

wow, what a welding job. i have never seen anything like that. it looks like somebody took a dump on that piping

Oh I agree, I have a small 135 Hobart with a 75/25 mix gas and is welds like a dream. But the flux core wire is nasty
a flux core welder when done right can really turn out some nice welds. Not recommended for heavy stuff, but for exhaust and other thin metal they work quite nicely. But I do like my hobart 220 quite a bit more. This little bracket was done with a flux core welder. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c36/dirt_track_racer_81/100_2479.jpg

The serious replies in that thread cracked me up. Like the genius that posted this: "good thing you caught that before any shit got down into the turbo." Please notice he said nothing about the weld job or the choice of bullshit parts.

a flux core welder when done right can really turn out some nice welds. Not recommended for heavy stuff, but for exhaust and other thin metal they work quite nicely. But I do like my hobart 220 quite a bit more. This little bracket was done with a flux core welder. http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c36/dirt_track_racer_81/100_2479.jpg

flux core BAD on the thinner metals, 14 gauge to 1/4" on a LE 135.

ps i hate u. i can do decent functional welds that are strong but not pretty yet

Wow, props for trying, but epic fail. He needs a mentor.

flux core BAD on the thinner metals, 14 gauge to 1/4" on a LE 135.

ps i hate u. i can do decent functional welds that are strong but not pretty yet

What ever floats your boat dude.

hmmm... why were you reading a honda forum.....?
:secret2: :suspiciou

hahaha

haha...:gay:

What ever floats your boat dude.

:engarde: .035 flux core is for thicker metal and can get plenty of penetration on 1/4". its a huge pita to weld thinner stuff wth it. theres no big issue wth flux core besides the fact tht its usually messy.

What ever floats your boat dude.

Since you reverse the polarity from normal MIG you get more penetration/heat into the weld, which makes it better for thicker stuff/a pain on _really_ thin stuff (like body work is next to impossible with it).

OTOH, you can weld castings fine with it if you know what you're doing, and I've never had a problem with a "mess." this is a casting welded to a mild steel flange that I did with a little lincoln welder and some flux core.

:engarde: .035 flux core is for thicker metal and can get plenty of penetration on 1/4". its a huge pita to weld thinner stuff wth it. theres no big issue wth flux core besides the fact tht its usually messy.

at work i had .030. thats only place ive ever messed with a flux core, all we used it for was exhaust work and light metal. heavier stuff we used 220 volt mig just like what i use at my shop as well. every one one was puttin the flux core down, i was just stickin up for it. yes it can leave a nasty weld if not hot enough or too much wire speed.

I know that this is a crappy fab work thread. But here is a whole thread dedicated to crappy fab work. It's on an off road web site, thought some of you might be in it for a good laugh though.

http://www.dezertrangers.com/vb/showthread.php?t=35793&page=10

You should see some of the stuff that gets brought into the shop that I work at and I have to repair. We constantly have to repair hard hydraulic hoses that have been welded on while on the machinery and people don't seem to understand that even if you clean the oil from the outside of the crack it is still in the crack itself. They will leak almost every time. We are required to penetrant die or ultrasonic test alot of the welds on thicker material.

at work i had .030. thats only place ive ever messed with a flux core, all we used it for was exhaust work and light metal. heavier stuff we used 220 volt mig just like what i use at my shop as well. every one one was puttin the flux core down, i was just stickin up for it. yes it can leave a nasty weld if not hot enough or too much wire speed.

sorry about that. guess its jus a matter of setup. i hve more of an ssue wth my own speed. i usually get a bead that looks like a damn stick weld. (too fast guess)

Oh man, this thread is still alive?! haha

OTOH, you can weld castings fine with it if you know what you're doing, and I've never had a problem with a "mess." this is a casting welded to a mild steel flange that I did with a little lincoln welder and some flux core.

Hard to tell for sure, but it doesn't look like you got much penetration into that casting. How has the part held up so far?

You could actually see the weld just coming through the back side, but then just for good measure I ran a bead the whole way around the inside also because I didn't want the weld bead next to the bolt holes on the outside.

Generally when you don't have good penetration you can see it with a weld bead that kind of sits on top of the base metal rather than whetted out to the roots of the weld like you see in that one, and you can tell that I didn't to do the "stack of tack welds" thing that a lot of shops started doing to make pretty looking (but crappy structurally) MIG welds because I don't have the pit from stopping on each one (for that matter, you can see that that particular weld was put down in 3 beads to keep from overheating any one spot and keep the casting happy because you can see the slag around the ends of the beads, that weld hadn't been wire brushed clean, where it pretty much took on the appearance of a tig weld once you got rid of the bit of smoke/spatter)

How about another

http://www.planetlsx.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=789&d=1257388894

http://www.planetlsx.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=790&d=1257388921

are those upgraded cutouts, dam i need to trade my electric ones in for a set of those. hahahaha

:barf::barf:

wtf was that guy thinking you can get regular non electric cutouts for like 30 bucks made out of stainless steel if you do not have the money for an electric one.

How about another

http://www.planetlsx.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=789&d=1257388894

http://www.planetlsx.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=790&d=1257388921

This guys lungs are having a bad day.....Galvanized is bad stuff to weld on. Mig is great for welding similar types of steel together, but TIG is the way to go for welding different steels together. They make rods that let you combine metals for a stronger end weld.

Flux core welding is better for the thick stuff, it has a better "dig" then gas. Gas is cleaner and if you have a strong enough welder, you get stronger welds if you get the penetration you need.

How about another



The ad for that setup was funny as well.

In 47 years i have repaired some real garbage. But this stuff is real bad. Plumber pipes??????? Did anyone tell this guy they make electric cutouts??????????

have you guys seen this link http://jalopnik.com/5176055/30-epic-do+it+yourself-automotive-fabrication-failures?skyline=true&s=x+%3Cbr+/%3E
it is full of idiots I specially liked the turbos cut out on the back seats.

I saw those cut outs in Home Depot last week.

wow i can do it better,and i never done it..

ha thats all i could say

that is the old school cut-out, obviously the welding leaves much to be desired but that was a pretty popular way to go back in the day. Thank god for technology eh.

just check the comments :P they are all excited :P wanna see the HP gain :P

I needed a good laugh. Thanks for that lol.

the coulple of pics on that jalopnik website or whatever of the turbos mounted to the mufflers and then mounted under the rear seat are actually a very well fabricated build. he even went as far as making the sidescoops functional as the intake for each turbo and made a custom set of aluminum side skirts as charge pipes. it was a very tasteful and creative build but i believe the builder fell very ill/ had to get major surgery or something. wish people didn't put his stuff out there like that.

the coulple of pics on that jalopnik website or whatever of the turbos mounted to the mufflers and then mounted under the rear seat are actually a very well fabricated build. he even went as far as making the sidescoops functional as the intake for each turbo and made a custom set of aluminum side skirts as charge pipes. it was a very tasteful and creative build but i believe the builder fell very ill/ had to get major surgery or something. wish people didn't put his stuff out there like that.

I saw that build some time ago and the guy was going for a hidden look, the turbos location was actually a pretty cool idea..

( looks like it was made from compressed dog shit ) best quote EVER

the coulple of pics on that jalopnik website or whatever of the turbos mounted to the mufflers and then mounted under the rear seat are actually a very well fabricated build. he even went as far as making the sidescoops functional as the intake for each turbo and made a custom set of aluminum side skirts as charge pipes. it was a very tasteful and creative build but i believe the builder fell very ill/ had to get major surgery or something. wish people didn't put his stuff out there like that.

Unless there are secret chambers welded inside that muffler that completely block off air flow the each side, that turbo systme is absolutely hilarious!

First off, the turbine inlet AND outlet are mounted in the same air path. Wont work.
Secondly, the wastegate is routed Backwards lol. Wont work.

It's not so much the Fabrication quality, but the flawed design that makes it funny.


EDIT: LOL, I just saw the other picture that shows them mounted under the back seats! When looking at the picture of them on the bench, I thought the Inlet/Outlet was coming from Right to Left. But it's the other way. So that now makes the wastegate correct however, the turbo is going to spin "Backwards" because the Downpipe is now the Up pipe LOL.

the mufflers were completely split open and the up pipe was welded inside in the correct configuration, the muffler chamber was left open for the downpipe and the gate to dump into which is actually on the technical side of things a good idea because it would keep more temperature on the up pipe increasing the thermal efficiency of the system. heat expansion drastically increases spool time. try and look on theturboforums.com for the build, the guy knows his shit.