Automotive News, Media & Press - 2012 Mustang GT500 Twin Turbo V8 600 HP

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oh well, ZR1 > that stang. and with the Z28 coming back supposedly, chevycould also have another car to beat it. love the horsepower war though :devil:

I actually hope its faster than the zr1 so chevy will step up to the plate again and go even bigger. Which would just be stupid awsome

For the first time I'd seriously contemplate buying a Mustang other than an '03-'04 Cobra. If this pans out, and they price it right, that would be awesome.

Why compare it to a ZR1 right off the bat? Looking at e-bay I can find 2010 GT500 selling for $47-50K, ZR1s are $70K more then that. So for the price difference I would hope the ZR1 would be the "better" car even though the two aren't really in the same league. I wouldn't mind owning an 08ish GT500 over a new 5th gen.

Well about time they make cars with some power. competition is good :)

Just wait for a SIDI Gen V Chevy V8 with a pair of twins....

Edit: How can twin turbo v8 pass CAFE regulations????

I actually hope its faster than the zr1 so chevy will step up to the plate again and go even bigger. Which would just be stupid awsome
Even if it is faster than it in a strait line it wouldn't matter because the Corvette isn't about drag racing...


Edit: How can twin turbo v8 pass CAFE regulations????
Why wouldn't it? It would be more efficient than the current supercharged V8.

I actually hope its faster than the zr1 so chevy will step up to the plate again and go even bigger. Which would just be stupid awsome

It will weigh easily 1k more than a Zr1 and has about 50 less horsepower.

Not much for competition.

Should be a good race vs a Z06 though. 95 hp vs 1000lb's.

I know it prob wont be faster but healthy competition is always good

I hope this is true. Ford is really picking up there game. They have a new 6.2L SOHC motor for its Raptor truck, which is badass BTW. Possibly have the 5.0 Cammer motor in the mustangs with 400hp. Now a TT 600hp GT500!?!

Just wait for a SIDI Gen V Chevy V8 with a pair of twins....

Edit: How can twin turbo v8 pass CAFE regulations????

CAFE is Corporate Average Fuel Econ. This means all the cars Ford makes have to average out to whatever number CAFE is. So average of all production models that Ford has, not just the 'Stang. So things like the Ford Fusion Hybrid get that number up high enough that it can take the hit from the 'Stang.

For example the Z28 was delayed because it would fuck up Chevy's CAFE numbers, but then they got the EPA to certify the Volt at 100+ MPG and suddenly GM has room to produce the Z28 and some rumored bad ass Buicks.

wel the GT500KR is ~$70K (w/o dealer markup), so figure this beast to be about the same price. I perdict $75-80K, w/o dealer markup. It will probably be around $100K when all is said and done. for that price, ZR1 baby!

Interesting...

ha i regret starting the zr1 debate right away. let me just say i am very impressed with ford stepping up their game. new motors, new ways of making power, their catching their stride. these twins are gonna make it a whole new game!

CAFE is Corporate Average Fuel Econ. This means all the cars Ford makes have to average out to whatever number CAFE is. So average of all production models that Ford has, not just the 'Stang. So things like the Ford Fusion Hybrid get that number up high enough that it can take the hit from the 'Stang.

For example the Z28 was delayed because it would fuck up Chevy's CAFE numbers, but then they got the EPA to certify the Volt at 100+ MPG and suddenly GM has room to produce the Z28 and some rumored bad ass Buicks.

Thanks for the clarification.

Does anyone remember the twin turbo LS7 Corvette mule that burnt down at the GM testing grounds? Rumor said that was originally going to be the ZR1, but the twin turbo LS7 was axed after the accident. That was a couple years ago.

man...and just when unit started to sway towards a new z28

unit....thought you might switch sides there for a little bit...guess its back to the blue oval now huh?

bizzzatch....cool pic...haven't seen or played oregon trail since 1st grade?!

unit....thought you might switch sides there for a little bit...guess its back to the blue oval now huh?

I really want another automatic, so I'd probably end up with the Z28.
I highly doubt a GT500 will ever come with an auto trans. The twin turbo
thing does sound interesting though.

Powershifternc,

thanks man.

I hope this is true. Ford is really picking up there game. They have a new 6.2L SOHC motor for its Raptor truck, which is badass BTW. Possibly have the 5.0 Cammer motor in the mustangs with 400hp. Now a TT 600hp GT500!?!

The 5.0 Cammer is a go, search for Coyote, they have them in testing in both Mustangs and F150s. 400HP and 380lb ft or torque, believe it's also a 4 valve? It's just what Ford needed to step the game up in the F150s and Mustangs. If it had been out when I was truck shopping I would have given the F150 a closer look. Just curious how it will react to mods, namley n/a. Healthy competition is a great thing for us, for a lot of people it's just advertising, but for the gear head crowd it's more then that.

damn that 4th picture down is sick with the viper and camaro. plus i love the color of the mustang for some reason

the 2010 gt500 is more around 600 hp...they only claim 540 but many guys get at least 510 to the wheels. Ford also has the 6.2 coming out for the new svt raptor, that truck is amazing even with the 5.4. They were running over 100 mph off road, looks and rides like a baja truck.

Ford also has the 6.2 coming out for the new svt raptor, that truck is amazing even with the 5.4. They were running over 100 mph off road, looks and rides like a baja truck.

You sure about that? A friend drove the new raptor and he said it was a roach in terms of power.

You sure about that? A friend drove the new raptor and he said it was a roach in terms of power.

Power with the 5.4 is a dawg but the suspension and everything else is amazing. There's no chance in hell I'd do that in a new Silverado. The 6.2 will complete the truck IMO

Things are beginning to get very interesting. The whole idea of a turbo V8 from the factory is very attractive.

Power with the 5.4 is a dawg but the suspension and everything else is amazing. There's no chance in hell I'd do that in a new Silverado. The 6.2 will complete the truck IMO

Right, I year what you're saying...but you're talking about it "will" do this and it "will" do that. I'm telling you that I have a good friend that drove one and he said it's a dog from a power standpoint. His word is as good as gold. You have to understand that some people here at LS1Tech have insider info on certain things. The LSx engines are far more potent.

Things are beginning to get very interesting. The whole idea of a turbo V8 from the factory is very attractive.

Definitely. There is talk amongst the Mustang community that the TT V8 won't happen. It would be crazy to see a factory twin turbo V8. Swap out the stock turbos and a FMIC and who knows what kind of power it could make.

Definitely. There is talk amongst the Mustang community that the TT V8 won't happen. It would be crazy to see a factory twin turbo V8. Swap out the stock turbos and a FMIC and who knows what kind of power it could make.

I hope the Mustang community is wrong about that. This is a car that I would love to own a couple of years down the road.

Think about if the FI system isn't maxed out from the factory. You are talking about some serious gains with just a boost controller. A turbo V8 is hands down my favorite set up, and has insane potential.

I hope the Mustang community is wrong about that. This is a car that I would love to own a couple of years down the road.

Think about if the FI system isn't maxed out from the factory. You are talking about some serious gains with just a boost controller. A turbo V8 is hands down my favorite set up, and has insane potential.

Just having the factory TT plumbing would be awesome. If this car does make it to production, it will cost some serious $$$. I'll have to ask some friends at Ford to see what the deal is. :secret2:

As much as I'm not a Ford fan I'm excited that ford is thinking about doing this!! I am curious as to the weight difference between the 5.4L iron and this new twin turbo aluminum block.

Right, I year what you're saying...but you're talking about it "will" do this and it "will" do that. I'm telling you that I have a good friend that drove one and he said it's a dog from a power standpoint. His word is as good as gold. You have to understand that some people here at LS1Tech have insider info on certain things. The LSx engines are far more potent.



Ford started off the Raptor's with the 5.4 as the "base" engine. The 6.2's are supposed to be released around December.

As far as the potentcy of the 6.2...Ford gave Roush a 6.2 pre-production engine and they stroked it to 427 c.i and put it in Don Bowles NMRA S197 Mustang; where it ran low 9's on muscle.

Looks like GM needs to start thinking about the next project. This is fun isn't it?

Ford started off the Raptor's with the 5.4 as the "base" engine. The 6.2's are supposed to be released around December.


They already exist...no need to wait 'til December. The general public
can drive them then I suppose.


As far as the potentcy of the 6.2...Ford gave Roush a 6.2 pre-production engine and they stroked it to 427 c.i and put it in Don Bowles NMRA S197 Mustang; where it ran low 9's on muscle.

Yeah, I'm sure Ford has a raced prepped 427cid engine in the Raptor.
Good comparison. :thumb:

I wasn't using the Roush prepped engine as a comparison; more as what potential these engines have.


I haven't been following the Raptor's super close, as I'm not in the market for a truck, but I was just relaying what the Ford tech's on another board had been posting on them.

600HP and it will still run 11.90 @ 135 LOL

i wish the greedy bastards at gm would take incentive like ford. :(
they have that new tt sho which is pretty nifty, they shoulda dropped that engine in the new stangs. i would not be surprised if they did release a tt v8 car.
the 5th gen could have easily been tt, theres more than enough room for the plumbing, they alredy have a supplier for turbos, they use turbos on the cobalts, dont see why they couldnt source a set for the camaro. and its gotta to easier to cast a pair tt manifolds for it.
look at the stock manifolds on the g8 gt, they look like they could have t3 or t4 flanges on them now.

600HP and it will still run 11.90 @ 135 LOL

Yeah...and that would be outstanding! Give guys like us a car that traps 135mph in stock trim and we'd be running 9's with tires, a tune, and a little more boost. I guess I'm missing your point. :confused:

More importantly, a TT GT500 at 3,200lbs would be a street terror. Too bad that's not going to happen. Regardless, a factory TT V8 would be awesome. We'll see...

thre is zero chance that car will trap 130+ from the factory but yes a twin turbo setup would be nasty a tune could easily net a safe 120rwhp with no other mods.

Yeah...and that would be outstanding! Give guys like us a car that traps 135mph in stock trim and we'd be running 9's with tires, a tune, and a little more boost. I guess I'm missing your point. :confused:

More importantly, a TT GT500 at 3,200lbs would be a street terror. Too bad that's not going to happen. Regardless, a factory TT V8 would be awesome. We'll see...

The point is Ive seen 700HP Cobra's barley break into 11's..... car's just don't impress me

You mean the drivers just don't impress you. It's very possible to get into the 11s in a Cobra with barely any more power over stock. Good set of tires, tune, maybe a couple bolt-ons, and a good driver.

I have to agree with the driver being the hold back.

I just bought my Cobra a little over a month ago and it drives very different than the N/A-Nitroused Fox that it replaced.

The first couple of passes I made really bummed me out because I was not used to the car and ran some pretty dismal times with it.

The good news is the more passes I make with it, the faster it keeps getting.

You mean the drivers just don't impress you. It's very possible to get into the 11s in a Cobra with barely any more power over stock. Good set of tires, tune, maybe a couple bolt-ons, and a good driver.

I met a guy who tuned is back a little so he didnt have to put a cage in it when the rule was 11.99. When they changed it to 11.49 he ran very close to that with a bolt on/tune car- stock cat-back. Def a lot of potential in those cars.

The point is Ive seen 700HP Cobra's barley break into 11's..... car's just don't impress me

...and I've seen 700hp Cobras run 9.50's or better. I've also seen C6 Z06's run 14.50's.
I guess they aren't impressive cars either.

Here's an idea, why don't you actually go to a sanctioned event and watch
some 700hp Cobras run. Stop going to test and tune nights where people
are trying to sort our their combos. Basing your opinion on that is just stupid.