Generation IV External Engine - ls1 A/C delete yea...or naaaa

whos done it? hows it done? how much$$? any pics? what type of belt?

there is a second belt that goes to the ac pump...just take the belt off and unbolt the parts...your done...thats why i did

wtf are you talking about theres only 1 belt??? maybe im not understanding you?

ok in 98-2002 fbodys there are TWO belts...one for the ac and one for the rest of the system.....

I took mine out for a Single Turbo....

Kinda sucks when its real hot, but the Turbo more than makes up for it! :devil:

there is a second belt that goes to the ac pump...just take the belt off and unbolt the parts...your done...thats why i did

Thanks you for the post.

Do you have some sort of reasoning for taking the A/C off?

no reason? its all from a donor car.. it was empty when i bought the car.. and wondered if it even still worked so rather not install it. bc if i do install it and then its broke or wont hold freon then ill be mad bc ill have to rip it out again... what kinda horsepower gains...?? how much horsepower...

there is minimal power gains by removing AC.

You can remove the belt if you want, it runs a second belt on the 98-02 f-cars ls1.

Personally, I would install the system, do a vacuum test to see if it will hold vacuum, and then replace the drier and charge the system. working AC is very nice to have.

Ryan

I deleted it..then again it's not my DD..

i would keep it. its nice for hot sunny days. i like to cruise with the windows down and ac on. then race all out drag cars and beat them. they get mad when you tell them you still have ac. lol

mine was broke and wood have been expensive to fix....since im broke i just took it off, and i took off my sway bar too

No power gains, the PCM shuts off the compressor at high RPM so no power is robbed.

it's worth deleting for weight savings if you want every little bit for the track. it doesn't rob any significant amount of power otherwise and is nice to have....

that being said, i cut mine out. I wanted a clean, no frills engine bay without all the clutter, same reason i deleted the power steering. when my hood opens, you'll see a LSX 454 and that's about it :D Then again, it's a half-ass show car and not a DD, plus i can handle manual steering and no AC so i don't mind.

A street car without air conditioning, its going to be 95* here tomorrow no f*cking way no a/c. Allout racecars have no a/c streetcars have it!

A street car without air conditioning, its going to be 95* here tomorrow no f*cking way no a/c. Allout racecars have no a/c streetcars have it!

Sweet! I've got an allout racecar and I didnt even know it

If you get rid of the AC, can I have it? I regret getting rid of mine. In the rain, everything fogs up and i feel like i'm in a sauna. In the winter, I have no heat other than the headers.

In the summer, I can't get to work without smelling like BO and being drenched in sweat. I can't take my GF on a date in the car because we'd both melt before we got to where we were going.

Going on a cruise isn't much fun, love the windows down, but sometimes it's nice to have ice forming on your skin while listening to some tunes and taking it easy. Everywhere I go I get to breathe the nice smog, burning coolant, and oil from every beaters exhaust, but hey, I can't roll my windows up in 108* heat....

Unless it's a track car, or your AC is non-functional and you REALLY can't fix it. Just keep it, you'll be doing yourself a favor, I promise.

can i use the v-6 system for my ls1 if so then i wont touch the v-6 when i do the swap.. and then yea its yours how about 100.00 for everything... you pay shipping.. itll make your gf happy that you wont smell like B.O. lmao that actual made laugh when i read that...

i took my ac and im in southern cali. its wasnt working and it wwas expensive to fix. so i took that shit off and never looked back. i dont melt in the sun or the heat. man up and do it.

LOL, lemme tell ya man, after I got the vette with AC i've been spoiled. I gotta get AC back in my firebird. About the V6 system though, I believe there are some differences, I can't remember what off the top of my head, but I want to say the V6 AC won't work with the LS1. So that may push you in the direction of AC delete just a tad bit.

Manning up and ditching AC is a bit drastic. In that scenario, why not man up and go straight headers, it saves weight. Leave out the power steering, that saves a bit of weight and HP too. You could even hollow out the front and rear bumpers, chop out any interior panels, unless they are used for support...

I like to enjoy the car in every situation and passengers don't always look past the no AC thing because we have a big motor. My firebird has never had AC and I've driven it daily for 3 years. It does get old though :bang:

my car has been my DD for 3years ago and i haven't even used ac once. i don't like it...thats what my t-tops are for. lol i haven't taken off because i am lazy. how much weight will it save?

my car has been my DD for 3years ago and i haven't even used ac once. i don't like it...thats what my t-tops are for. lol i haven't taken off because i am lazy. how much weight will it save?

I cant give you an exact number...but the compressor is pretty dang heavy...and of course you lose a little more with the rest of the parts...If you dont use it, I would certainly take it out...:judge:

Total System weight is about 35lbs.

its done, its out. lol i have a jeep as my daily driver and that has ac so im not worried about it. so do you still want to buy that ac from me?

also when deleting the ac can i delete the bracket that bolts to the engine that holds the compressor... it has a pully on it do i need this yes or no?

dude just take everything off...save some wieght...

also when deleting the ac can i delete the bracket that bolts to the engine that holds the compressor... it has a pully on it do i need this yes or no?

No..that was for the AC compressor...

Anything that looks like its not doing anything anymore...remove.:judge:

took mine off... and front sway bar...and the front bumper.. with an slp lid, and magnaflow exhaust I ran a 13.0 @ 108 with a 1.9 60 ft... I think the ac part of it helped ALOT stock it ran 13.8... after removing the ac and catback I was running 13.1 13.2s.... Also If im not going drive it in the rain, why would I drive it in 100 degree weather? Only take it out when its nice, t tops off, perfect.

No power gains, the PCM shuts off the compressor at high RPM so no power is robbed.

is that really true? that alone would make me keep the ac.

you take off AC and have a 13 second racecar, I'll agree with caveman. There are 9 second, true "daily drivers" around here that impress me, cold AC, sits and idles in traffic with good street manners, and a system with a subwoofer.

if it is broken, that's one thing, but to remove a good system, for weight savings at that power level is nothing that I would do. But im going to get into my lsx daily driver to go to work. Current weather status is:

78 degrees
97% humidity
30.07 baro
77 degree dew point

Certainly not fun weather to drive a car without AC, even just to remove the humidity.

Ryan

Ryan

what nobody has seemed to mention yet is that with the ac out of the way it opens up some nice room to work under the hood. i personally never used it and i like to do my own work so pulling it was a no-brainer for me

My compressor started screeching so I pulled the system. I'm good, but I'd have never done it if I realized how much bitching my girlfriend would do as she's having heat strokes in the passenger seat.

pulling the whole hvac system including heater box clears up a lot of room, the normal ac is not that much in the way.

Ryan

is that really true? that alone would make me keep the ac.

Yes it's true.



As far as the room factor.. I can do 13 min Plug Changes..:D

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Then again I have other mods to help like the re-located Heater Lines. :)

I'm good, but I'd have never done it if I realized how much bitching my girlfriend would do as she's having heat strokes in the passenger seat.

x100000000! thats the only downside for me, but i learned that turnin up the radio fixes this problem..... i have ac in my beater car and ttops in the camaro thou

tell the girlfriends to shut up and HOLD ON!!!!

tell the girlfriends to shut up and HOLD ON!!!!

only problem is that my car is slow so holdin on isnt exactly nessecary lol

^^Lol.. All I hear is "OMG slow down.." :devil:

^^ thats when you just turn up the radio and go faster and faster..




hey six pack 2 go do you have any pics of your cage install.. im trying to figure out how to cut the carpet and make it look profesional... and wether to buy a weldin or bolt in (and weld the bolt in in). thanks in advance.

No power gains, the PCM shuts off the compressor at high RPM so no power is robbed.

EXACTLY CORRECT.:nod: