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Revo1
10-10-2009, 08:59 PM
Blatantly. :nono:

Read for yourself
http://autos.yahoo.com/articles/autos_content_landing_pages/1139/what-your-car-says-about-you/

I posted feedback for Yahoo to read- share your thoughts
http://suggestions.yahoo.com/detail/?prop=autos&fid=168315

:nono:


ryonyanko
10-10-2009, 09:55 PM
Appalling.

Revo1
10-10-2009, 10:10 PM
Appalling.

Thoroughly insulting. Can't believe their editorial staff let this one hit the page.


Breathing Fire
10-10-2009, 10:24 PM
Wow good find OP. Guess yahoo and bing are no longer my search pages of choice. Thank you for letting all of us know how they think. Off subject I saw a honda driver just about get it up the ass today. Lack of power made his effort to cut the gap almost end up in disaster. Guess yahoo needs to look around a bit better. An educated person wouldn't do that right?

Revo1
10-10-2009, 10:43 PM
Wow good find OP. Guess yahoo and bing are no longer my search pages of choice. Thank you for letting all of us know how they think. Off subject I saw a honda driver just about get it up the ass today. Lack of power made his effort to cut the gap almost end up in disaster. Guess yahoo needs to look around a bit better. An educated person wouldn't do that right?

Indeed. When he fondles all those intelligent, practical Honda drivers, he neglects to mention these people...
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp224/sseiboi/RiceRocket.jpg

96tealTA
10-10-2009, 11:33 PM
I just read that article when I signed into my email. It throughly pissed me off!!! Everyone in my family drives a Pontiac. YAHOO you are... :supergay:

99bluehawk
10-10-2009, 11:45 PM
Thats why I GOOGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PedaltoMetal
10-10-2009, 11:56 PM
Bunch of yahoo's over at Yahoo. I drive 2 Chevy's and 1 Ford. No wonder I need help getting dressed. :usa:

Irunelevens
10-11-2009, 12:16 AM
Yahoo didn't call anybody anything. You're all overreacting. All they did was report the finding of an independent study.
The data was released in the spring as part of this year's New Vehicle Experience Study by San Diego-based market research outfit Strategic Vision.


So if you want to blame somebody, blame Strategic Vision.

PedaltoMetal
10-11-2009, 12:20 AM
^^Says the Honda driver :jest:

Revo1
10-11-2009, 12:27 AM
i just read that article when i signed into my email. It throughly pissed me off!!! Everyone in my family drives a pontiac. Yahoo you are... :supergay:

lmao!

Revo1
10-11-2009, 12:28 AM
Yahoo didn't call anybody anything. You're all overreacting. All they did was report the finding of an independent study.


So if you want to blame somebody, blame Strategic Vision.

You sir, did not read the article. Nothing but opinionated :bs:

Besides, Yahoo is responsible for allowing it onto the front page of Yahoo Autos. SV may have penned the survey, but Yahoo wielded it inappropriately.

1slo_camaro
10-11-2009, 03:33 AM
Indeed. When he fondles all those intelligent, practical Honda drivers, he neglects to mention these people...
http://i414.photobucket.com/albums/pp224/sseiboi/RiceRocket.jpg

give him props gesh. i mean look he took ideas from nasa for the space shuttle look, the crooked tag from mini trucks. and the wide body like Dick Harrell. gesh be nice










AHHH FUCK IT BLOW THAT FUCKIING PIECE OF SHIT TO THE MOON AND ALL THE OTHER CIVICS!!

1slo_camaro
10-11-2009, 03:34 AM
AND I LOVE MY :mullet: MOBILE



SO YAHOO :gtfo::gtfo::gtfo::gtfo::gtfo:



:google::google::google::google::google::google:

Revo1
10-11-2009, 07:06 AM
AND I LOVE MY :mullet: MOBILE



SO YAHOO :gtfo::gtfo::gtfo::gtfo::gtfo:



:google::google::google::google::google::google:

LOLOLOLOLx2

71 chevy
10-11-2009, 08:41 AM
that explains some of the things I read on some chevy forums :D

Blakbird24
10-11-2009, 11:35 AM
Yahoo didn't call anybody anything. You're all overreacting. All they did was report the finding of an independent study.

So if you want to blame somebody, blame Strategic Vision.

They reported the findings of an independent study by choice. Nobody told them they had to do it. Basically, some lazy sub-par writer needed something to write, so he just grabbed the first and easiest thing he could find on Yahoo search and decided to write on it. It's a poorly written, uninformative article that belongs on the cutting room floor of a tabloid office, not a respectable news page. That Yahoo found this article fit to post shows they too, are not too bright...

:rotflmao: DEFINITELY NOT HONDA DRIVERS!! :rotflmao:

Blackened2k
10-11-2009, 11:39 AM
eh, so the worst part was probably the last line. But that was nothing more than ending the article on a joke tying in the information at the beginning of the article. Kind of a weak study. I fail to see how there's any direct correlation to what car you drive and how intelligent you are. And I wouldn't consider Yahoo a 'respectable news page'.

Though it is funny how its listed under: Autos > Research > Articles. That's some pretty useless (if at all valid) research.

2002_Z28_Six_Speed
10-11-2009, 01:03 PM
Wow. The author thinks he is doing the world a favor by classifying how people are depending on a car they own. I think the jerk showed his true colors. I never have known someone who was so critical of other people.

This is like saying you are a loser in high school because you couldn't afford that $200.00 sweater or that you are retarded because you like something different or just got a good deal on it.

SICK BASTARD. Judging people on what car they drive is wrong. Let's go around and stone people for being witches for fuck's sake. :eyes::eyes:

Cole Train
10-11-2009, 03:10 PM
Saw this the other day too. It's funny they focus on Honda and Chevy/ford Only. True morons

Zac_Speed
10-11-2009, 03:43 PM
Yahoo didn't call anybody anything. You're all overreacting. All they did was report the finding of an independent study.


So if you want to blame somebody, blame Strategic Vision.

TROLL, Go join a honda site and GTFO. You're post are useless and we're all dumber for seeing what you type.

Rob98LS1
10-11-2009, 04:33 PM
Wow, nice way to be unprofessional. The survey findings are interesting no doubt, but the way the author twisted it is no different than stereotyping the shit out of something or someone. In my experience I have seen no correlation between a person's intellect and the brand of car they drive. As well, I have seen plenty of "educated" people act like idiots in front of someone who simply graduated high school and went on to bigger and better things. But I've also seen it the other way around. I think there's a leak in their liner, because that shit holds no water.

Man those people picking up Chevrolet Z06s surely aren't savvy or smart, they must of used their parent's money to buy them... :eyes:

slingshot928
10-11-2009, 04:54 PM
I really do not care, call me retarded, but all you will see are my tail lights...its a bunch of yuppies from California who think the United States needs to rely on Wind power and going green, I mean they were going to outlaw black colored cars because they were environmental hazards. I hate Yahoo, :google: for the win.

Revo1
10-11-2009, 05:13 PM
eh, so the worst part was probably the last line. But that was nothing more than ending the article on a joke tying in the information at the beginning of the article. Kind of a weak study. I fail to see how there's any direct correlation to what car you drive and how intelligent you are. And I wouldn't consider Yahoo a 'respectable news page'.

Though it is funny how its listed under: Autos > Research > Articles. That's some pretty useless (if at all valid) research.

Word. I loved they way he opened with :bs: By the first line of the article I was pisssed.

Revo1
10-11-2009, 05:14 PM
Wow, nice way to be unprofessional. The survey findings are interesting no doubt, but the way the author twisted it is no different than stereotyping the shit out of something or someone. In my experience I have seen no correlation between a person's intellect and the brand of car they drive. As well, I have seen plenty of "educated" people act like idiots in front of someone who simply graduated high school and went on to bigger and better things. But I've also seen it the other way around. I think there's a leak in their liner, because that shit holds no water.

Man those people picking up Chevrolet Z06s surely aren't savvy or smart, they must of used their parent's money to buy them... :eyes:

Eeexactly
+5

2002_Z28_Six_Speed
10-11-2009, 05:44 PM
I really do not care, call me retarded, but all you will see are my tail lights...its a bunch of yuppies from California who think the United States needs to rely on Wind power and going green, I mean they were going to outlaw black colored cars because they were environmental hazards. I hate Yahoo, :google: for the win.

Wind energy is the biggest lie the power industry has ever had to hide. It is the governments fault for subsidizing/pushing this bull shit even though the reports came back that showed wind energy is most available when it is least needed and least available when most needed. :mad:

StreetSilverado
10-11-2009, 06:29 PM
:guns:http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/Sleeper91TSI/ricerkj3.gif

Revo1
10-12-2009, 12:04 PM
:guns:http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh7/Sleeper91TSI/ricerkj3.gif

LOL :usa:

Spoolin
10-12-2009, 06:13 PM
I liked that article...it was funny. Don't see why everyone's getting all bent out of shape about it.

WSsick
10-12-2009, 07:20 PM
My question is why on Earth did someone waste time and money on that study?

Camaroz
10-12-2009, 08:10 PM
Thank god for Yahoo... Finally Shown me the light! :nod: I'm trading in every vehicle I own for a brand new Prius. :google:

cmb570
10-12-2009, 09:21 PM
only thing more stupid than the article is how most of you are over reacting to it. If you act stupid about the article doesnt that kinda feed into the BS it was posting.

its know big secret the build quality on our camaro's kinda sucks, the LS1 makes up for alot. The new Chevy, quality is getting better

CrabhartLS1
10-12-2009, 10:41 PM
As the past and future driver of a chevy, i find yahoo users stupid.

Irunelevens
10-13-2009, 12:25 AM
^^Says the Honda driver :jest:
Yep... I sure do drive a Honda.
You sir, did not read the article. Nothing but opinionated :bs:

Besides, Yahoo is responsible for allowing it onto the front page of Yahoo Autos. SV may have penned the survey, but Yahoo wielded it inappropriately.
Actually I read the article the whole way through... while it was opinionated and not too bright, that doesn't change the fact that Yahoo was not the one that did the study.
TROLL, Go join a honda site and GTFO. You're post are useless and we're all dumber for seeing what you type.
I'm actually on a few Honda websites... and several Mustang websites... and a couple LS1 websites. Thanks though ;).

Revo1
10-13-2009, 03:02 AM
I liked that article...it was funny. Don't see why everyone's getting all bent out of shape about it.

One too many forks in the outlet socket maybe...

Revo1
10-13-2009, 03:07 AM
Actually I read the article the whole way through... while it was opinionated and not too bright, that doesn't change the fact that Yahoo was not the one that did the study.


Yahoo WAS the one that published the article... had to clear their editorial staff before it made the page. And did you see any of the actual numbers from the study? nope. You're left to take the author's obviously biased word for it. Inappropriate, unprofessional, and uncalled for, any way you spin it.

phirepower
10-13-2009, 02:52 PM
Yahoo auto news is not what I would call "reputable automotive news" Where are these so called study statistics. I am sure that more rednecks do indeed drive chevy's this however should not reflect poorly Chevy's rep, as I have seen far more "thugs" driving beat-to-hell hondas, than rednecks in chevys in my day. Is yahoo trying to say that all the coffee-can-exhaust goons, that proudly wave the puerto-rican flags from the rear view are well-educated. Maybe I have only come in contact with the 30% without a pristine academic background. Who knows?

Great response to that unjust burn!

Spoolin
10-13-2009, 07:10 PM
One too many forks in the outlet socket maybe...

Little sensitive are we? If someone makes a rude statement that is far from truthful people tend to ignore it and laugh it off. If someone cracks a joke or makes an assumption that hits a little too close to home people immediately get defensive and riled up. The fact that people are getting their panties in a bunch over a vague generalization kinda makes a point about the ones who are butt-hurt over it.
JMHO though, no need to agree with me! :P

Irunelevens
10-13-2009, 10:09 PM
Little sensitive are we? If someone makes a rude statement that is far from truthful people tend to ignore it and laugh it off. If someone cracks a joke or makes an assumption that hits a little too close to home people immediately get defensive and riled up. The fact that people are getting their panties in a bunch over a vague generalization kinda makes a point about the ones who are butt-hurt over it.
JMHO though, no need to agree with me! :P

I will say though, based off what I see on the internet... MOST people in the world are pretty stupid anyway.

Blakbird24
10-13-2009, 11:08 PM
I will say though, based off what I see on the internet... MOST people in the world are pretty stupid anyway.

The "person" is smart, "people" are stupid. Individuals can think for themselves...it's when they start to believe everything the media says and buy Toyotas and Hondas that they become "people" and your statement becomes entirely accurate.

It's amusing to me how much inadvertent truth a person can speak about themselves when evaluating others. "image projection" is is the term used in the psychology field. Spoolin may see a connection here to one of my earlier statements in another thread (if he was paying attention to begin with).

Spoolin
10-14-2009, 02:11 AM
Oh great your into psychology now? Last time it was all about your HS buddies and what they think and now your speaking from a psychology point of view? :rolleyes:
If you want to play grown up you might want to stick around this time no? I mean how long is it gonna take for you to bail out of this thread crying "Spoolin's mean" :cry:

2002_Z28_Six_Speed
10-14-2009, 11:03 AM
Oh great your into psychology now? Last time it was all about your HS buddies and what they think and now your speaking from a psychology point of view? :rolleyes:
If you want to play grown up you might want to stick around this time no? I mean how long is it gonna take for you to bail out of this thread crying "Spoolin's mean" :cry:

That avatar cracks me the hell up. :D

FormulaZR
10-14-2009, 11:47 AM
Wind energy is the biggest lie the power industry has ever had to hide. It is the governments fault for subsidizing/pushing this bull shit even though the reports came back that showed wind energy is most available when it is least needed and least available when most needed. :mad:


Could you provide me with a link to that data?

I work in wind energy and only see the WTGs stationary when 1) wind speeds are under 7 mph, 2) are curtailed by ERCOT (due in large part to lack of t-line and agreements already in place with fossil fuel plants), or 3) during outages for maintenance or repair...with reason #2 be the most prevalent by far!

02SLOMARO
10-14-2009, 02:04 PM
GOOGLE ftmfw!!!!!

Revo1
10-14-2009, 03:30 PM
only thing more stupid than the article is how most of you are over reacting to it. If you act stupid about the article doesnt that kinda feed into the BS it was posting.

its know big secret the build quality on our camaro's kinda sucks, the LS1 makes up for alot. The new Chevy, quality is getting better

It's "know" big secret? What does that even mean?

Revo1
10-14-2009, 03:31 PM
yahoo auto news is not what i would call "reputable automotive news" where are these so called study statistics. I am sure that more rednecks do indeed drive chevy's this however should not reflect poorly chevy's rep, as i have seen far more "thugs" driving beat-to-hell hondas, than rednecks in chevys in my day. Is yahoo trying to say that all the coffee-can-exhaust goons, that proudly wave the puerto-rican flags from the rear view are well-educated. Maybe i have only come in contact with the 30% without a pristine academic background. Who knows?

Great response to that unjust burn!

+1000000000,000000000000

Revo1
10-14-2009, 03:33 PM
Little sensitive are we? If someone makes a rude statement that is far from truthful people tend to ignore it and laugh it off. If someone cracks a joke or makes an assumption that hits a little too close to home people immediately get defensive and riled up. The fact that people are getting their panties in a bunch over a vague generalization kinda makes a point about the ones who are butt-hurt over it.
JMHO though, no need to agree with me! :P

Nothing vague about it, it's quite specific. Read it again.

2002_Z28_Six_Speed
10-14-2009, 04:13 PM
There are plenty of toys in the sandbox we can all play along and not fight. ;)

1998MysticZ28
10-15-2009, 05:20 AM
Who cares? Really, I have had owned three Chevys, I currently own two. My dad always had chevys, and my mom has a honda cause of gas mileage. I say let them call us dumb it dont bother me a bit? I have no problem letting people think Im dumb, hell I get it all the time for signing up for the service, and when Im done they realize that it was smarter than college!

I Go To Costco
10-15-2009, 06:54 AM
I wasn't offended by the article at all, I thought it was kinda funny at parts. But the article author is silly for trying to further a stereotype.

Forbes has had a history of writing auto-related articles that get laughed at by automotive enthusiasts. They should stick to what they do best, which is to write about finances and the stock market. If anything, when a publication or website writes a "What your car says about you" article, it should be tongue-in-cheek... otherwise people go up-in-arms, as you can see in this thread. There is an asshat for every seat.... you'll find idiots behind the wheel of a Honda, Chevy, Toyota, and probably even a few Ferraris.

And I agree with the sentiment that there is no need for this overreacting. It's like when people on the internet call Camaro drivers rednecks... first of all I don't get offended at the least because I'm not even ethnically white!

It's "know" big secret? What does that even mean?

on the other hand.... maybe the article was right :lol:

Come to think of it, one of the factoids was allegedly that 35% of Chevy drivers have a college education. I haven't graduated college yet! Degree in progress of course, I'm only 21

I Go To Costco
10-15-2009, 06:57 AM
and oh yeah, Yahoo mail sucks ass. Their spam filter sucks, their capacity sucks, and the fact that you have to pay extra to get features you can get free from other e-mail clients is bull, not to mention if you don't check your mailbox for a while they disable it. I use Gmail and only Gmail :google:

Spoolin
10-15-2009, 02:10 PM
Who cares? Really, I have had owned three Chevys, I currently own two...I say let them call us dumb it dont bother me a bit? I have no problem letting people think Im dumb, hell I get it all the time for signing up for the service, and when Im done they realize that it was smarter than college!

:stupid:

I wasn't offended by the article at all, I thought it was kinda funny at parts. But the article author is silly for trying to further a stereotype.
...If anything, when a publication or website writes a "What your car says about you" article, it should be tongue-in-cheek... otherwise people go up-in-arms, as you can see in this thread. There is an asshat for every seat.... you'll find idiots behind the wheel of a Honda, Chevy, Toyota, and probably even a few Ferraris.

And I agree with the sentiment that there is no need for this overreacting. It's like when people on the internet call Camaro drivers rednecks... first of all I don't get offended at the least because I'm not even ethnically white!


:stupid:

Glad to see there are a few other rational people in here...

Revo1
10-15-2009, 05:29 PM
I wasn't offended by the article at all, I thought it was kinda funny at parts. But the article author is silly for trying to further a stereotype.

Forbes has had a history of writing auto-related articles that get laughed at by automotive enthusiasts. They should stick to what they do best, which is to write about finances and the stock market. If anything, when a publication or website writes a "What your car says about you" article, it should be tongue-in-cheek... otherwise people go up-in-arms, as you can see in this thread. There is an asshat for every seat.... you'll find idiots behind the wheel of a Honda, Chevy, Toyota, and probably even a few Ferraris.

And I agree with the sentiment that there is no need for this overreacting. It's like when people on the internet call Camaro drivers rednecks... first of all I don't get offended at the least because I'm not even ethnically white!



on the other hand.... maybe the article was right :lol:

Come to think of it, one of the factoids was allegedly that 35% of Chevy drivers have a college education. I haven't graduated college yet! Degree in progress of course, I'm only 21

I agree that morons come in every shape, size, and vehicle, but I don't feel anyone is overreacting. When people start suing over things like this, then you can call overreaction. A little forum rant among people that might be able to relate seems perfectly healthy. I think the "Take a chill pill" attitude works just great for the kids on the schoolyard that wanna look like The f_cking Fonz. But in here...

...and if you can't tell that the word "know" is misused, then you better invest your money in a better school.

future_Z_Owner
10-15-2009, 05:37 PM
To be honest i think Yahoo's entire staff is a bunch of idiots

I Go To Costco
10-15-2009, 05:44 PM
I agree that morons come in every shape, size, and vehicle, but I don't feel anyone is overreacting. When people start suing over things like this, then you can call overreaction. A little forum rant among people that might be able to relate seems perfectly healthy. I think the "Take a chill pill" attitude works just great for the kids on the schoolyard that wanna look like The f_cking Fonz. But in here...

...and if you can't tell that the word "know" is misused, then you better invest your money in a better school.

Nice attempt at a thinly veiled insult, but I was inferring that the article was right after all, because of the guy you quoted and his misuse of now/know. I pay my own tuition by myself, thank you very much.

Maybe you should go back to school instead of trying to insult anyone who disagrees with you.

kain01
10-15-2009, 07:11 PM
Girls your all pretty. And apparently dumb. But I'm in the same lifeboat with ya. <------yup mispelled. :engarde:

KevinWS6
10-15-2009, 07:28 PM
My question is why was the survey ever taken at all? Do we really need a survey to tell us that Honda owners can use the internet, rich people buy bentleys, and alot of Mini owners are hippies? :givesfuck The most funny part about the whole thing are all of the grammar and spelling mistakes in the replys of the yahoo feedback portion. That sure does help to get rid of a stereotype ;)

Revo1
10-15-2009, 08:20 PM
Nice attempt at a thinly veiled insult, but I was inferring that the article was right after all, because of the guy you quoted and his misuse of now/know. I pay my own tuition by myself, thank you very much.

Maybe you should go back to school instead of trying to insult anyone who disagrees with you.

My mistake, guess all the flames have got my guard up. :mad:

NSSANE02
10-15-2009, 09:37 PM
I was inferring that the article was right after all, because of the guy you quoted and his misuse of now/know.

It's now big secret?

I Go To Costco
10-15-2009, 10:40 PM
It's now big secret?

God damn self-fulfilling prophecies :lol: the more I think about it the more it becomes true.

Also, see the gratuitous misuses of your/you're/their/they're/etc. in this thread alone. It's contagious! I'm picky when it comes to grammar and spelling, that one just went over my head. No wait, I blame my keyboard. :nod:

My question is why was the survey ever taken at all? Do we really need a survey to tell us that Honda owners can use the internet, rich people buy bentleys, and alot of Mini owners are hippies? :givesfuck The most funny part about the whole thing are all of the grammar and spelling mistakes in the replys of the yahoo feedback portion. That sure does help to get rid of a stereotype ;)

:werd:

NSSANE02
10-15-2009, 11:08 PM
God damn self-fulfilling prophecies :lol: the more I think about it the more it becomes true.

Also, see the gratuitous misuses of your/you're/their/they're/etc. in this thread alone. It's contagious! I'm picky when it comes to grammar and spelling, that one just went over my head. No wait, I blame my keyboard. :nod:


Damn those Chevy keyboards! :jest:

Revo1
10-16-2009, 03:04 AM
Damn those Chevy keyboards! :jest:

Tru dat homee u no how it iz. If my keebord wusnt so fuked up I kud spell perfict. :jest: Kan sumwun tel me wut punctuaton mean!

Irunelevens
10-16-2009, 01:59 PM
The "person" is smart, "people" are stupid. Individuals can think for themselves...it's when they start to believe everything the media says and buy Toyotas and Hondas that they become "people" and your statement becomes entirely accurate.

It's amusing to me how much inadvertent truth a person can speak about themselves when evaluating others. "image projection" is is the term used in the psychology field. Spoolin may see a connection here to one of my earlier statements in another thread (if he was paying attention to begin with).

No, I meant what I said... most individual "people" in the world are pretty dumb. The "average" person is kind of a moron, and half the people are dumber than that. When you group them together it just makes it worse. And yes, buying Hondas and Toyotas makes people stupid :eyes:

PSSYCO
10-16-2009, 03:11 PM
Damn those Chevy keyboards! :jest:

Hell, I have one of those Honda key boards. It makes me feel smarter than I am. You should try one! :bang:

Sharpe
10-16-2009, 07:50 PM
Just another liberal shot at the domestic car market. Coverage of domestic vs. import recalls is just another example.

As a former staff writer of five years, I know you can find a "study" or "statistic" to support anything you want to write. The author's purpose was to say, "Chevy buys are only buying these cars because if they were on the Internet, they'd know better. Oh, yeah, and they're uneducated, too.

"But, if you drive a Mini, you're smart and sophisticated!"

Notice none of the actual data was posted, just the author's opinion on the findings. "While 13% of Chevy owners don't use the Web, by contrast, less than 3% of Honda owners remain in the technological Stone Age. " So, about 10 or 11 percent more Chevy buyers don't use the Internet. What was the average age of these buyers? Think they might be at least 10 percent older? My dad doesn't use the Internet but my mom does, and that's more than the difference in their age right there. You better believe my mom did a ton of research before buying her truck, and she didn't go with the Toyota Tundra either.

The language used in that article was so incredibly opinionated it would have never flown at any of the papers for which I wrote. "Your car implies more about your life than you might think." No editor of mine would have let that ride. No way.

I fully expected to come in here seeing a flat-out lie about the Yahoo article. But, for once, an OP's title was true.

There's a difference between turning into a slavering, crazy idiot after reading a story you don't feel sheds a true and unbiased light on an issue and standing up for what you believe in the face of wrong. And, that article was wrong.

Shackleford
10-16-2009, 10:34 PM
Just another liberal shot at the domestic car market. Coverage of domestic vs. import recalls is just another example.

As a former staff writer of five years, I know you can find a "study" or "statistic" to support anything you want to write. The author's purpose was to say, "Chevy buys are only buying these cars because if they were on the Internet, they'd know better. Oh, yeah, and they're uneducated, too.

"But, if you drive a Mini, you're smart and sophisticated!"

Notice none of the actual data was posted, just the author's opinion on the findings. "While 13% of Chevy owners don't use the Web, by contrast, less than 3% of Honda owners remain in the technological Stone Age. " So, about 10 or 11 percent more Chevy buyers don't use the Internet. What was the average age of these buyers? Think they might be at least 10 percent older? My dad doesn't use the Internet but my mom does, and that's more than the difference in their age right there. You better believe my mom did a ton of research before buying her truck, and she didn't go with the Toyota Tundra either.

The language used in that article was so incredibly opinionated it would have never flown at any of the papers for which I wrote. "Your car implies more about your life than you might think." No editor of mine would have let that ride. No way.

I fully expected to come in here seeing a flat-out lie about the Yahoo article. But, for once, an OP's title was true.

There's a difference between turning into a slavering, crazy idiot after reading a story you don't feel sheds a true and unbiased light on an issue and standing up for what you believe in the face of wrong. And, that article was wrong.

Maybe you should forward that two-bit operation your post right here.

98pontiac
10-16-2009, 11:44 PM
hmm... 99% of people who own lowriders are mexican 75% of escalade owners are black. Now everyone can say "he drives a pontiac, theres a 70% chance im smarter than he is..) I can sleep good tonight, because I just have to know the guy with the fart can a wing has a 70% chance of having a higher education level than I do... and wouldn't you know it, the guy who drives a porche, has the money to drive a porche... Who knew???????!!

2002 SS HUGG
10-17-2009, 12:45 AM
I like how they talk about how reliable Honda's are. Too bad they didn't talk about the SBC 350 that laid the ground works and foundations that paved the way for the introduction to the LS motors, which was in production for 30 years (1967-1997).

bore.me
10-17-2009, 01:29 AM
just a very poor article. The media puts a lot of negative perception on american cars. So we as american car fans just have to deal with it.

Revo1
10-17-2009, 03:27 PM
Just another liberal shot at the domestic car market. Coverage of domestic vs. import recalls is just another example.

As a former staff writer of five years, I know you can find a "study" or "statistic" to support anything you want to write. The author's purpose was to say, "Chevy buys are only buying these cars because if they were on the Internet, they'd know better. Oh, yeah, and they're uneducated, too.

"But, if you drive a Mini, you're smart and sophisticated!"

Notice none of the actual data was posted, just the author's opinion on the findings. "While 13% of Chevy owners don't use the Web, by contrast, less than 3% of Honda owners remain in the technological Stone Age. " So, about 10 or 11 percent more Chevy buyers don't use the Internet. What was the average age of these buyers? Think they might be at least 10 percent older? My dad doesn't use the Internet but my mom does, and that's more than the difference in their age right there. You better believe my mom did a ton of research before buying her truck, and she didn't go with the Toyota Tundra either.

The language used in that article was so incredibly opinionated it would have never flown at any of the papers for which I wrote. "Your car implies more about your life than you might think." No editor of mine would have let that ride. No way.

I fully expected to come in here seeing a flat-out lie about the Yahoo article. But, for once, an OP's title was true.

There's a difference between turning into a slavering, crazy idiot after reading a story you don't feel sheds a true and unbiased light on an issue and standing up for what you believe in the face of wrong. And, that article was wrong.

My thoughts exactly, well said Sharpe.

FormulaZR
10-19-2009, 08:44 AM
I like how they talk about how reliable Honda's are. Too bad they didn't talk about the SBC 350 that laid the ground works and foundations that paved the way for the introduction to the LS motors, which was in production for 30 years (1967-1997).

SBC has been around since 1955, not 1967; granted not in the 350 config...but it was still the same basic engine!

Dabom75
10-19-2009, 10:02 AM
hmm... 99% of people who own lowriders are mexican 75% of escalade owners are black. Now everyone can say "he drives a pontiac, theres a 70% chance im smarter than he is..) I can sleep good tonight, because I just have to know the guy with the fart can a wing has a 70% chance of having a higher education level than I do... and wouldn't you know it, the guy who drives a porche, has the money to drive a porche... Who knew???????!!
I laughed so much when reading this.


Here is a odd fact.

I drive an '02 Camaro SS LE Last time I had IQ checked it was 136

My wife drives a '08 Toyota Yaris Last time her IQ was checked it was 120


Maybe we should go be tested again to see if she gained over 17 IQ points just brecause of the car she bought.

NOBR8KSS
10-23-2009, 09:16 AM
We are the United States of the Offended...I can't believe this thread is 4 pages long. Go drink a beer and quit ruining my life. There's a 100% chance that I'm never reading this thread again.

NSSANE02
10-23-2009, 01:09 PM
We are the United States of the Offended...I can't believe this thread is 4 pages long. Go drink a beer and quit ruining my life. There's a 100% chance that I'm never reading this thread again.

Are you kidding? Who the fuck cares if a few people get offended about a ridiculous, somewhat offensive article?

NemeSS
10-23-2009, 02:15 PM
im smart enough to not pay for a honda let alone a gayass mini. :)
i hate those fucking cars.

HMFDZ28
10-23-2009, 08:12 PM
Man this is a shame... I have to get rid of my internet service and look for a new job now. I drive a Chevy so I should not be working on radio systems for the emergency services. Damn I liked my job too.... Walmart here I come!!!!

Revo1
10-25-2009, 06:00 AM
man this is a shame... I have to get rid of my internet service and look for a new job now. I drive a chevy so i should not be working on radio systems for the emergency services. Damn i liked my job too.... Walmart here i come!!!!

l o l

CarsAddict
11-04-2009, 09:42 AM
From a company the size of Yahoo, I'm very surprised at the lack of professionalism shown and I think it's a terrible and insulting article.

1CAMWNDR
11-04-2009, 11:43 AM
I couldn't give a shit LESS what someone from yahoo thinks about my car and the kind of cars I like. My car and those like it are for me and folks like me. I am not trying to impress anyone.
Big Fucking Deal.

RPM WS6
11-04-2009, 12:05 PM
its know big secret the build quality on our camaro's kinda sucks

Are you sure about that?

I've only had four 4th gen F-bodies now, so maybe I'm lacking in experiance, BUT, my '02 Z28 has had less issues in 96,000 miles than my wife's Toyota did in the same distance. These days, even she won't look at anything other than GM cars (well, she does like some Mustangs, too ;) ).

RPM WS6
11-04-2009, 12:35 PM
Funny thing about statistics; 100% of them can be made to say anything you want, 100% of the time. All you have to do is leave out some test info/parameters and BAM, you can spin the results any way you like within the text of a news article.

I have 4 Chevys at the moment, ranging in age from 5 years to 38 years old. I use the internet every single day. I have zero college education, but I'm relatively well off finanacially based on old fashioned hard work and smart money management. I'm anti-liberal, anti-green, and anti-fad. I beleive people should be able to own guns. I beleive that traffic cameras are anti-American and should be outlawed. I don't think the government has the right to tell me that I *must* wear a seatbelt or be fined. I don't need a government that tries to "protect me from myself". I think for myself, and don't do or buy things just to follow a crowd or trend. I don't like big government, and I don't like paying more taxes for "the greater good". I don't like "change" just for the sake of change; problems need to be specifically indentified and possibile solutions need to be carefully studied, considered, and debated before any action is taken. I beleive that we MUST be certain of what positives we're giving up every time we change something to "fix" a negative. I'm not willing to give up my freedom in the name of saftey, just because the government tells me I should. Remember, in 1959 Cuba opted for change, and look where that got them.

And lastly, I like the simplicity of old cars, and I'm not "wowed" into spending money on lots of flashy/blinky new technology that is simply unnecessary. I like Chevy, and I beleive in GM's ability to build a good product. I buy what I like, and I like what I buy. Most Honda buyers do so because they want to follow a crowd, or trend, of other "sheeple" like themselves. If that makes them more intelligent, then all I have to say is, I'm glad to be an idiot.

So maybe some of their info about me was correct. ;)

SilverV6Camaro
11-04-2009, 04:47 PM
I think a lot of you are making assumptions. Nowhere in the article were the words stupid or smart ever used, simply a survey of who had a college education, who uses the internet, etc. which are facts. The reasons were not stated...many Chevy/Ford owners are probably older than Honda owners, and never have or will go online. Many of the people that buy American cars are Big 3 workers, and those jobs do not require college degrees. There are explanations for the findings of the survey.

I own a 98 Trans Am (previously 2 other f-bodies as well) and I have a Honda Accord. I love both of the cars. I take offense to the import bashing...they are just different animals. My Accord is far more reliable than any f-body I've owned, smooth, quiet, etc. It's frankly a superior daily driver, however, it's not nearly as fun because even with the V6, it doesn't rip the tires or have all of those sweet V8 sounds like the TA. They serve different purposes. Honda will never make a super performance muscle car with a large V8, and the GM/Ford still cannot make quite as reliable and quiet (sure boring) sedan as Toyota and Honda. It is what it is, facts are facts, just leave it at that. Because some of us are not die hard American car buyers (I used to be, but they ruined it for me), we're just objective buyers that look at our vehicle needs and assess accordingly, which means sometimes buying a Honda or other import. Which is a funny term, since half of them are made in the US anyway. My Honda was made right here in Ohio, and my F-body was made in Canada. Go figure.

Bad Blue WS6
11-04-2009, 05:13 PM
well said.

allbaugh_04
11-04-2009, 06:43 PM
That is the most retarded article I have ever read. I hate it when people think, just because you drive this car or have this hand bag, or wear these clothes, you are automatically "this" type of person.

I wear tattered t-shirts and oil stained clothes, it doesn't mean I am poor nor dirty. I simply don't give a fuck.

Fuck off yahoo...and all the other idiots that think they can see what type of person someone is, by their so called "image". Just because I buy a used Chevy, I am now uneducated and poor? I know it's just statistics but basically they are saying Honda = smart. Chevy = dumbass hillbilly, uneducated and can't use the internet.

RPM WS6
11-04-2009, 06:46 PM
I think a lot of you are making assumptions. Nowhere in the article were the words stupid or smart ever used, simply a survey of who had a college education, who uses the internet, etc. which are facts.

These are not exactly "facts" because the survey pool was likely too small. You could spin things the other way too, and use this site as your survey pool, therefore saying that 100% of Chevy owners regularly use the internet.

The reasons were not stated...There are explanations for the findings of the survey.

Exactly, which is why this stuff is not exactly "fact". As I stated above, any statistic can be spun any way you'd like, depending on the survey pool and what info you release about the test group.

My Accord is far more reliable than any f-body I've owned, smooth, quiet, etc. It's frankly a superior daily driver

That's an opinion you've based on your own experiance. By the same token, my experiance has been opposite. I had the misfortune of daily driving my wife's Toyota for 6 years, let me tell you my F-bodies have been better cars in every way (ride, power, MPG vs CID, reliability).

GM/Ford still cannot make quite as reliable and quiet (sure boring) sedan as Toyota and Honda. It is what it is, facts are facts, just leave it at that.

Right, facts are facts, but the fact is that these days, GM does in fact make cars that are just as reliable as the imports (if surveys and studies mean anything to you, personally I've had nothing but great experiances with my GM cars for years, which is why I keep buying them...regardless of surveys)

Because some of us are not die hard American car buyers (I used to be, but they ruined it for me), we're just objective buyers that look at our vehicle needs and assess accordingly, which means sometimes buying a Honda or other import.

An objective buyer would then realize that new GM cars are ranked right on par (via industry surveys) with the imports, and that being an "import" fan is no more or less necessary than being a GM fan, in terms of buying a vehicle that both suits your needs and provides a comparable level of reliability and efficiency. But that's just for you objective people. I really pay very little attention to surveys, I just buy what's worked well in my experiance. GM has never given me a reason to look elsewhere. I see no reason for change unless I find myself unhappy with something.

NSSANE02
11-04-2009, 09:22 PM
Funny thing about statistics; 100% of them can be made to say anything you want, 100% of the time. All you have to do is leave out some test info/parameters and BAM, you can spin the results any way you like within the text of a news article.

I have 4 Chevys at the moment, ranging in age from 5 years to 38 years old. I use the internet every single day. I have zero college education, but I'm relatively well off finanacially based on old fashioned hard work and smart money management. I'm anti-liberal, anti-green, and anti-fad. I beleive people should be able to own guns. I beleive that traffic cameras are anti-American and should be outlawed. I don't think the government has the right to tell me that I *must* wear a seatbelt or be fined. I don't need a government that tries to "protect me from myself". I think for myself, and don't do or buy things just to follow a crowd or trend. I don't like big government, and I don't like paying more taxes for "the greater good". I don't like "change" just for the sake of change; problems need to be specifically indentified and possibile solutions need to be carefully studied, considered, and debated before any action is taken. I beleive that we MUST be certain of what positives we're giving up every time we change something to "fix" a negative. I'm not willing to give up my freedom in the name of saftey, just because the government tells me I should. Remember, in 1959 Cuba opted for change, and look where that got them.

And lastly, I like the simplicity of old cars, and I'm not "wowed" into spending money on lots of flashy/blinky new technology that is simply unnecessary. I like Chevy, and I beleive in GM's ability to build a good product. I buy what I like, and I like what I buy. Most Honda buyers do so because they want to follow a crowd, or trend, of other "sheeple" like themselves. If that makes them more intelligent, then all I have to say is, I'm glad to be an idiot.

So maybe some of their info about me was correct. ;)

Couldn't have said it better myself. Don't suppose you listen to Walton & Johnson huh?

NSSANE02
11-04-2009, 09:34 PM
I think a lot of you are making assumptions. Nowhere in the article were the words stupid or smart ever used, simply a survey of who had a college education, who uses the internet, etc. which are facts. The reasons were not stated...many Chevy/Ford owners are probably older than Honda owners, and never have or will go online. Many of the people that buy American cars are Big 3 workers, and those jobs do not require college degrees. There are explanations for the findings of the survey.

I own a 98 Trans Am (previously 2 other f-bodies as well) and I have a Honda Accord. I love both of the cars. I take offense to the import bashing...they are just different animals. My Accord is far more reliable than any f-body I've owned, smooth, quiet, etc. It's frankly a superior daily driver, however, it's not nearly as fun because even with the V6, it doesn't rip the tires or have all of those sweet V8 sounds like the TA. They serve different purposes. Honda will never make a super performance muscle car with a large V8, and the GM/Ford still cannot make quite as reliable and quiet (sure boring) sedan as Toyota and Honda. It is what it is, facts are facts, just leave it at that. Because some of us are not die hard American car buyers (I used to be, but they ruined it for me), we're just objective buyers that look at our vehicle needs and assess accordingly, which means sometimes buying a Honda or other import. Which is a funny term, since half of them are made in the US anyway. My Honda was made right here in Ohio, and my F-body was made in Canada. Go figure.

I can agree with most of the first paragraph but the rest is just opinionated jibberish. While your Accord may be quieter, smoother, and possibly more reliable than your f-body, it damn well should be because that's its sole purpose. Those two cars should never be compared under any circumstances. It is not at all fact that Honda or Toyota make better, more reliable, or quieter cars than GM, especially their newer vehicles. I worked at a Honda dealership in service and parts for two years and there's no better place to see the true quality of their cars, and the type of people that drive them. The supposed "statistics" in that article are complete BS, that's the only FACT here :eyes:

SilverV6Camaro
11-05-2009, 09:05 AM
I can agree with most of the first paragraph but the rest is just opinionated jibberish. While your Accord may be quieter, smoother, and possibly more reliable than your f-body, it damn well should be because that's its sole purpose. Those two cars should never be compared under any circumstances. It is not at all fact that Honda or Toyota make better, more reliable, or quieter cars than GM, especially their newer vehicles. I worked at a Honda dealership in service and parts for two years and there's no better place to see the true quality of their cars, and the type of people that drive them. The supposed "statistics" in that article are complete BS, that's the only FACT here :eyes:

I didn't compare them. In fact, I say that they are completely different beasts with different purposes. If you read Consumer reports, the majority of Honda and Toyota models hold up far better over the long run than American nameplates, and their info is based on owner surveys. Have American cars closed the gap? Absolutely they are better...Ford in fact is leading the pack and closing in on Toyota and Honda in reliability. GM still has some work to do.

Shackleford
11-05-2009, 10:04 AM
WJ, baby!