Dynamometer Results & Comparisons - NEW N/A Trick Flow Head Record

we were working on a big motor for the lsx shootout, but we projected it not to be finished in time. we had a customer that wanted us to use the motor we were building for him in the car. we built the engine from machine work to complete assembly in a week and a half put it in the car and made it to the dyno yesturday. we were gonna do some hand finishing on the cylinder heads but we did not have enough time. but we will do so and post results after the race.

the engine is a 408ci 6.0 iron block, trick flow 245 cylinder heads, solid roller cam, and a super victor intake. with a few tricks we did to this motor.

through a rossler th400, 6200stall converter, ford 9" with 4.56 gears it made 649rwhp naturally aspirated. and 450rwtq. the converter flashes past peak torque so the tq numbers are down. we are in memphis right now at the lsx shootout but will be back on monday and will post dyno graphs. and track times after tomorrow.

thanks,
David Lazear
G.C.R.E.

good luck sounds like a beast!!!

Holy Shit!!!! nice numbers batman!!

What is the red line on that thing? Holy cow that is some power through that automatic. I can't wait to see what it runs in Memhis...

What is the red line on that thing? Holy cow that is some power through that automatic. I can't wait to see what it runs in Memhis...


i shift it at 8200

I heard this customer is a REALLY nice guy...........wait............you are using my motor! :D We will be working on the tune some tomorrow with the better DA here in Memphis. Once back in Pensacola, it will be going in my WS6 after a few lil tweaks. Somebody is going 8's!

we were working on a big motor for the lsx shootout, but we projected it not to be finished in time. we had a customer that wanted us to use the motor we were building for him in the car. we built the engine from machine work to complete assembly in a week and a half put it in the car and made it to the dyno yesturday. we were gonna do some hand finishing on the cylinder heads but we did not have enough time. but we will do so and post results after the race.

the engine is a 408ci 6.0 iron block, trick flow 245 cylinder heads, solid roller cam, and a super victor intake. with a few tricks we did to this motor.

through a rossler th400, 6200stall converter, ford 9" with 4.56 gears it made 649rwhp naturally aspirated. and 450rwtq. the converter flashes past peak torque so the tq numbers are down. we are in memphis right now at the lsx shootout but will be back on monday and will post dyno graphs. and track times after tomorrow.

thanks,
David Lazear
G.C.R.E.
Nice.
We made 614rwhp/495rwtq so far with TFS 245 heads on a MUSTANG dyno (~12% lower) with 388 cubes.

Quite impressive considering trans, gears, and stall. Hell Impressive any way you look at it man !!! Someone said 8's, what do you think she'll run ?

Best of luck in Memphis !

We are hoping for John's car to be a lil lighter than Davids.
Especially with me driving, i am 100 pounds lighter:D

Congrats David....can't wait to see your motor in it, gonna really be nuts then!:chug:

Congrats on a killer build for sure, it makes more power than it has a right to, waiting for results.

hell yeah!!!!!!!!!! throw a m6 and i bet it will make over 700whp easy!

Nice.
We made 614rwhp/495rwtq so far with TFS 245 heads on a MUSTANG dyno (~12% lower) with 388 cubes.
That's also a 6-speed and IRS compared to a TH-400 and a 9 inch though :D

Don't think they have had time to update so here it is...
from stripes1987;
"so we went to the track today. i have never done a wheel stand like i have today. the first pass it was heading for the bumper so i bliped the throttle and got very lucky and didnt break anything and still went 9.7 at 142. the next pass we tied the front end down tighter and it carried the front tires about 65ft 4 feet in the air. and went a 9.46 at 142. and the last pass of the day i guess i came off of the two step on the transbrake and i guess i let off the throttle for a second and got on it (john says i have a case of vaginitis) it went a 1.32 60ft and it went 9.41 at 144mph. at the end of the day we see that the tire is rubbing the hell out of the body of the car in the inside of it. we are going to beat that in and than hopefully will pick up some mph."

This combo has been running less than a week, first time out....literally thrown together, with that in mind....the bitch is runnin damn strong!

Congrats David, and BE SAFE!!!:chug:
BTW they are the #2 qualifier:D

WOW ! I thought it was killer dropping my 60 times from 2.2x to 1.9x to 1.71 and the 1.71 was a real neck breaker. (Too bad it cost me an exedy twin, and a dte stg III, possibly more, haven't taken it apart yet) I couldn't imagine the thrust a 1.3x feels like !!!!

Thanks for the update. Sounds like you guys had more fun then should be allowed. Any chance of video of those runs. Would love to see those wheel stands !! (As would the rest of us I'm sure)

There is somewhere i'm sure...
I know they got some GOOD pics of the wheels up.

LOL, i have never heard a 1.71 being a "neckbreaker"

There is somewhere i'm sure...
I know they got some GOOD pics of the wheels up.

LOL, i have never heard a 1.71 being a "neckbreaker"

LOL, you missed my point. The first time I cut a 1.71 the way it felt compared to my 2.2x junk is what I meant by "NECKBREAKER"

I should call it a "DIFF BREAKER" My DTE looked like it had internal bleeding when I pulled over. Fluid draining out the bottom between the case and rear cover.

Again congrats and hopefully some of the those pics get posted up .....

LOL, you missed my point. The first time I cut a 1.71 the way it felt compared to my 2.2x junk is what I meant by "NECKBREAKER"

I should call it a "DIFF BREAKER" My DTE looked like it had internal bleeding when I pulled over. Fluid draining out the bottom between the case and rear cover.

Again congrats and hopefully some of the those pics get posted up .....


:hijack: Did you wheel hop? I have a friend who destroyed a DTE stage III rear on his vette. Broke in the first 60' on the first run. It broke in half with a huge chunk out of it. Looked like it was shot with a 50 cal...it also bent the output to the tranny so he had to get a new rear and get his tranny rebuilt.

^^^^^ Sent you a PM so I don't hijack the thread ^^^^

That's also a 6-speed and IRS compared to a TH-400 and a 9 inch though :D

Just saw the title and decided to chime in and show how well the trickflow 245's did on a car we put together also.

i thought the minimum bore for the 245's is 4.155

He will be in finals in the morning! Go david! here are some pics i found
http://lsxtv.com/photos/data/547/saturday_morning_036.jpg
http://lsxtv.com/photos/data/547/saturday_morning_037.jpg
http://lsxtv.com/photos/data/547/IMG_0460.JPG
http://lsxtv.com/photos/data/547/IMG_0459.JPG
http://lsxtv.com/photos/data/547/Night_Qualifying_Saturday_066.jpg
http://lsxtv.com/photos/data/547/Night_Qualifying_Saturday_065.jpg
http://lsxtv.com/photos/data/547/saturday_afternoon_pits_012.jpg
http://lsxtv.com/photos/data/547/saturday_afternoon_pits_007.jpg
http://lsxtv.com/photos/data/547/saturday_afternoon_pits_008.jpg
http://lsxtv.com/photos/data/547/saturday_afternoon_pits_009.jpg
http://lsxtv.com/photos/data/547/saturday_afternoon_pits_011.jpg

Sick Ass wheel stand!!!! Good Luck in the finals!!!

so i ran joe hunneycutt today and he went on the bumper and my main plug from the spaghetti menders came out and shut the car off. joe went across the centrline so he got disqualified. we have one time trial in the morning and than the final run.

Awesome setup guys. What kind of compression that thing have?

Sweet David!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He lost in finals! 9.0 beats his 9.40

well he hit the dyno again today and put down 652whp :)

I heard this customer is a REALLY nice guy...........wait............you are using my motor! :D We will be working on the tune some tomorrow with the better DA here in Memphis. Once back in Pensacola, it will be going in my WS6 after a few lil tweaks. Somebody is going 8's!

So with this motor you are skipping 10's altogether and going for low 9's and 8's :drool:

Not with that motor anymore....David bought it LOL.

LOL changed the music from rock for once :lol: :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqrCP0IVWHI

He went faster last night....
1.30
5.93@117!!!!

The best music is the car sound!

Whats the compression on the motor?

i think like 14.8-1 and on q16 fuel

gotcha thanks very stout numbers

There is sure alot of :hump::sack::swing: going on in here haha.

Sounds like she pulls hard on the big end. Sounds very good!

The sound of that motor was just plain sick !! To echo Brian, she sounded like she was pulling HARD up top .....................

Damn, that's a sick NA motor. If it was mine, I'd throw a T56 in it and have at it! :D

Good luck getting a T-56 to handle that kind of power. Not saying that it cant be done but they sure wont like a 7k dump.

Absolutely INSANE! What are the specs on that solid roller sounds like its going to cut off at the end backing it up!?

Good luck getting a T-56 to handle that kind of power. Not saying that it cant be done but they sure wont like a 7k dump.


+1...not to mention that it wouldn't be consistant.

Hell, i can't find a clutch to hold my big, mighty powa:gruffy::bash:

Considering your setup is WAY more extreme than his, that would make sense.

Yes....true.....but still.:rolleyes:

Absolutely INSANE! What are the specs on that solid roller sounds like its going to cut off at the end backing it up!?

its a magical cam we came up with its 254/268 .690/.700 on a 112lsa

its a magical cam we came up with its 254/268 .690/.700 on a 112lsa

HAHAHAHA:devil:

+1...not to mention that it wouldn't be consistant.

Hell, i can't find a clutch to hold my big, mighty powa:gruffy::bash:

Try a stock one that should do it.:engarde:

Lil more than that....it's not "1badzo" a stock clutch held that bad mofo just fine:punch::eek2:

Stripes....we ALL know that cam is a magical 220/223 .789.34/943.87 on a 143 LSA:secret2::engarde:

Well maybe, but i do know that there are plenty of 400 rwhp cars that have clutches that hold fine i even think there is a car that makes 30 more and is working fine with a 500 dollar clutch, I dont know maybe its you?

Sorry back on topic, Chris cont. on swinging.

Since Coleman Roddy ran 9.20's with 245's and a HYD ROLLER,
and TXCAMSS ran 9.30's with 235's and a HYD ROLLER,
you MIGHT be #3 on the TFS N/A list :)

Change that converter and keep after it, I think you'll be #1! :cheers:

Really Impressive

LSX with potentail of more than +600RWHP with 408ci is insane

MRT