Cadillac CTS-V 2004-2009 - Bone stock V w/ 50k on it hitting the strip tonight. Advice?
DoctorNick
10-16-2009, 11:34 AM
Time for some baselines before the blower goes on. Any suggestions on dragging these beasts? I know hop is a killer so I am going to get out of it if the hop is really bad. I run RE11 tires, so I should stick pretty well out of the hole. I don't think I'll do a burnout in the box because...well..I have never done a burnout before :lol: Otherwise, what kind of ETs/traps should I shoot for?
jerrad
10-16-2009, 11:50 AM
I'd be happy with a 13.99 and the ability to drive the car home.
scatillac
10-16-2009, 12:11 PM
the ability to drive the car home.
A key statement here! If it hooks and hops hard, have a friend with a rollback ready. :emb:
The GM engineers that always got good times did a lot of clutch slipping to get it going.
DoctorNick
10-16-2009, 12:36 PM
Man, you guys make me NOT want to run it. :lol: Ive been here long enough to know the dif is fragile, the bushings suck and the pinion angle isn't the best, but really...should I be expecting a kaboom? Maybe I'll just go spectate :(
I forgot to mention, I have the UUC trans mount and UUC dif mount.
I really thought these difs were ok as long as there isn't any hop. Are they really not strong enough for any sort of "good" 60'?
jerrad
10-16-2009, 12:42 PM
Man, you guys make me NOT want to run it. :lol: Ive been here long enough to know the dif is fragile, the bushings suck and the pinion angle isn't the best, but really...should I be expecting a kaboom? Maybe I'll just go spectate :(
I forgot to mention, I have the UUC trans mount and UUC dif mount.
I really thought these difs were ok as long as there isn't any hop. Are they really not strong enough for any sort of "good" 60'?
Some people have broke the rear on the 1-2 shift and the 2-3 shift. I wouldn't worry.
Rev to around 3000, slip the clutch, if you get hop get out of it, be easy on the first couple shifts.
onebadcad
10-16-2009, 01:22 PM
Here are a few:
1) Ride the clutch out at 2,000rpm, if you have no wheel hop keep going up 500rpms, you will not want to go above 3,000rpm
2) Put in Competitive Driving Mode, no need to turn off all features
3) If you want to be a baller, pull out rear seat & spare tire, drop rear tires to 22psi, go with 36psi up front, make sure A/C is off, put sideview mirrors back
4) Make sure your AAA membership is current
5) Get out of wheelhop, a crappy time is better than a broken rear
6) Aim for 13.6-13.7secs, try for a 2.15-2.25sec 60' time
7) Enjoy yourself, the results are only secondary to having a good time
JJSimon904
10-16-2009, 02:12 PM
Here are a few:
1) Ride the clutch out at 2,000rpm, if you have no wheel hop keep going up 500rpms, you will not want to go above 3,000rpm
2) Put in Competitive Driving Mode, no need to turn off all features
3) If you want to be a baller, pull out rear seat & spare tire, drop rear tires to 22psi, go with 36psi up front, make sure A/C is off, put sideview mirrors back
4) Make sure your AAA membership is current
5) Get out of wheelhop, a crappy time is better than a broken rear
6) Aim for 13.6-13.7secs, try for a 2.15-2.25sec 60' time
7) Enjoy yourself, the results are only secondary to having a good time
Great advice. I have 9 passes on this car (all came after 40k miles..30k on the rear), 7 of them are 2.1X 60' with 13.6X 1/4. I launch 3k-4k depending on how strong the clutch is and put just enough power down to launch w/o wheel hop. I know I can get 2.0 or better on my runflats but I don't want to push it too hard. Today the weather is in the 60's and no humidity...I REALLY want to run tonight, but have got some work to do at home :(
2k launch is probably a better way of ensuring no wheel hop and ensuring that your clutch doesnt stick to the floor after a couple of runs :P The stock clutches do not like much abuse. My runs were in 90 degree weather so maybe the clutch will hold up better in cooler weather.
itsslow98
10-16-2009, 04:13 PM
feather the clutch out of the hole, there is NO dumping the clutch in this car. it will take a few runs to get used to but itll come. I went from 14.1 my first time at the track(2 runs) to a 13.6 my second time at the track(2 runs). wheel hop sucks and it WILL bog off the line most likely but it sure is fun banging some gears.
DoctorNick
10-16-2009, 06:18 PM
Ended up wussing out. Have a job I rather drive to the V too on monday :lol: I'll go next weds when I can afford a new dif :devil:
itsslow98
10-16-2009, 09:23 PM
puss .............
maxspeed96ct
10-16-2009, 09:47 PM
You pay for the car , enjoy it. Dont be scared.
Doesnt mean you have do a burnout or a 6k launch.
With the right slip , tires and practice you will be ok.
or spend the money on some axles if you want to launch it with alot less worry, im waiting on the g-force review since they are priced fairly.
JJSimon904
10-18-2009, 12:10 AM
has anyone tried some drag radial launches with axles?
liqidvenom
10-18-2009, 06:32 PM
only one person i know of has been to a track with axles and he was on street tires i think.
maxspeed96ct
10-18-2009, 06:42 PM
has anyone tried some drag radial launches with axles?
That Is something im to affraid of trying..
but maybe someone with a warrenty can try ? :secret2:
JJSimon904
10-18-2009, 06:58 PM
only one person i know of has been to a track with axles and he was on street tires i think.
Yeah I was there with him :p
Blackboosted2
10-21-2009, 02:48 PM
I don't see why you can't do at least a 13.5, let the clutch slip more than normal like everyone said. If it wheel hops let out
I have only ran 3 passes ever in my car (heavy 20" Foose wheels too - 2.3 60's which are just plain terrible) 14.1@105 first pass, 13.5@107 and 13.4@107 NO powershifting...felt good with that and left. It's not a drag car, and 13 second passes make me fall asleep ... lol
onebadcad
10-21-2009, 03:09 PM
has anyone tried some drag radial launches with axles?
I ran BFG DRs on my stockers with stock axles back in 2006, think they were 265s, and cut a sub 2.00sec 60'. They grab plently, too good, as the 1-2 shift did me in. IMO, DRs without a bulletproof diff will get you towed home. Try for a 2.15-2.20sec 60' even if modded, as trying harder may prove costly.
DoctorNick
10-21-2009, 06:31 PM
I'm gonna go on friday. Just had my last meeting of the week. Woohoo. :)
JJSimon904
10-21-2009, 10:49 PM
I ran BFG DRs on my stockers with stock axles back in 2006, think they were 265s, and cut a sub 2.00sec 60'. They grab plently, too good, as the 1-2 shift did me in. IMO, DRs without a bulletproof diff will get you towed home. Try for a 2.15-2.20sec 60' even if modded, as trying harder may prove costly.
Did you complete a run with them? If so, how did it do?
cts-vls6
10-21-2009, 11:46 PM
was up jjsimon904,i will be going to no problem raceway on nov. 13,its will be a test and tune day for me
onebadcad
10-22-2009, 10:04 AM
Did you complete a run with them? If so, how did it do?
Only did one full run, think I ran a 12.6/12.7, went at it easy, had issues with 2-3, next run I pushed it, which is why it did not make the finish line:devil:.
white2001formula
10-22-2009, 10:16 AM
I went a few weeks ago, and took it easy. I don't remember my 60' or MPH but I ran a 13.8. First run I messed up and just gave up at the 1/8th. (Rev limited 1st AND 2nd) The second one, I wasn't as nervous. Just pay attention on the launch.
JJSimon904
10-22-2009, 01:32 PM
was up jjsimon904,i will be going to no problem raceway on nov. 13,its will be a test and tune day for me I'll plan for that night too then.