GM Performance Parts LSX Shootout - Drag Radial Round 1 elimination results

This is off 1320go.co

Mark Koehler 7.693@188.62 over Michael Meeks 0.00 @ 0.00

Jim Filipowski 7.575@196.93 over Nick Field 9.561@147.67

Mike Brown 7.513@190.14 over Steve Turley 7.981@192.82

Steve Fereday 7.854@183.79 over Flaco Gonzales 0.00@0.00


Thats all I could find....maybe someone can confirm the results for us.


Larry

Like to see Mike Brown win.

All turbo cars after round 1 .... nothing new there.

is anyone else shocked at the car count for the heads up classes AM/DR i got 10 cars total making full passes?

nope.

No suprise

I hope LMR wins......

:D:D:D

jeezus... Filipowski 196 mph..... wow... just wow.....

Updates? On the road back home..

wow i would of thought turley had it in the bag

They said there was another OIL DOWN and they are shutdown for the night and will start at 9:00 am Tomorrow ???????

This was on 1320timing (9:30pm)

I heard that the racing was soo disorganized today it wasn't funny. They played the national anthem and then took 20 minutes to prep the track before they started racing.

Ive heard they have had alot of issues. I was intending to go but I really figured the weather would have been a factor. I didnt want to drive all that way and then it turn out the car count be awful. I to thought Turley had this one. PUlling for Steven and Josh seems like they are starting to get it dialed in somewhat but got alot stiff competition with Brown and Flipowski and Koehler. all three of their cars are flying. But if any one can do it Steven and Josh can.

I heard that the racing was soo disorganized today it wasn't funny. They played the national anthem and then took 20 minutes to prep the track before they started racing.

UPDATE




2nd round will start monday @ 9am

Like to see Mike Brown win.

All turbo cars after round 1 .... nothing new there.

Hard to get to rd 2 if 1) your car does t make it the the staging lanes for rd 1. Or 2) your car never makes it to the race.



On a side note, completely dissapointed at how the lsx crowd got pushed back until 5 in the afternoon. I really hope there is a dedicated event to showcase the LSx community in the near future. Being dumped in after 4 hours of jr dragsters and 1/8 bracke cars just to make rd 1 doesn't make me too excited to get my car built and within the lsx shootout rules.

It was great meeting the fellow lsx racers though! Pulling for that dyno queen orange firebird to go some rounds!!!


Tim

yea it seemed like we were just put on the back burner. i mean come on it took true street 7 or 8 hours and then index took forever saturday night too. there were a lot of oil downs that no one had control over so i guess it wasnt really anyone's fault....just venting

UPDATE

2nd round will start monday @ 9am

How screwed up would it be if they actually filled all the classes? Glad I didn't go, because I would have to leave early.

yes i hurt my motor in time trails, but with mark running a 7.60 why would i stage a car with a cracked ring $$$$$$$$ now i can fix it for 1k one more pass maybe 5k

On a side note, completely dissapointed at how the lsx crowd got pushed back until 5 in the afternoon. I really hope there is a dedicated event to showcase the LSx community in the near future. Being dumped in after 4 hours of jr dragsters and 1/8 bracke cars just to make rd 1 doesn't make me too excited to get my car built and within the lsx shootout rules.

It was great meeting the fellow lsx racers though! Pulling for that dyno queen orange firebird to go some rounds!!!


Tim
:ripped:


We felt the same way.

Breaking away from such a big NMCA race and adding a few more classes would be super. It seems its run with NMCA because LSX is expected to be a smaller race and they feel it wouldn't be worth running it by itself. If they added more classes it would give more options. Unless you have a 7.XX sec turbo car or a bottom 9 sec all motor car, your only option is LSX index. Throw in a 275 radial class, or a nitrous class with a limited jet size. Maybe a swap/hybrid class so the non GM bodied cars can play. Don't get me wrong, I will continue to run the shootout anyway. Just think it would be pretty easy to encourage more LSX cars to come out if they had a seperate/unique class to run instead of all being thrown into one giant class.


just my .02

I got tired of waiting around for the lsx cars today. We ended up leaving the track at around 3:30. Thought I'd get an early jump on the way back home and possibly get a home cooked meal. Glad I didnt wait around. First year actually coming down and it was a big cluster fuck. I understand the weather issues friday and the cars breaking saturday. But today they took way too long in between things. They should have had the next round of cars running staged while the one round was running. Really would be nice to see the LSX cars get their own event. Another thing what was the point of the 30 mile cruise if the cars have about 3hrs to cool down?

The 30 mile cruise was the biggest cluster fuck of the weekend. Some "no so" street car couldn't keep up and led over half of the cars the wrong damn way.

sounds like it got worse this year compared to last...on elim day it just seems the LSX guys are on the back burner for sure.

I hate to say it but I'm glad I didn't make the 15+ hour trip this time around....

and not surprised at ALL by the car counts.

they are shooting themselves in the foot.

Chad

Damn that sucks... I wonder how many people are not gunna show tomorrow. I know quite a few had planned to drive back and then work tuesday.... sucks..

I just got home a few minutes ago. Ive been down in Memphis since Thursday, and considered staying over tonight as well since I was still at the track around 6PM. I was considering staying over tonight, and booking another hotel room so I could see eliminations, then drive home tomorrow morning..

Sure am glad I left when I did. I know accidents, and oil-downs are inevitable, but the LSX guys really were put on the backburner all weekend. There were a total of TEN heads-up cars running today. It wouldnt take any time at all to work those guys in between the countless rounds of junior dragsters, and bracket cars. I hate it for those guys, because most of the heads-up racers have been away from home since Wednesday of last week, or even longer. Its just a little excessive.

Anyway.. Congrats to LMR starting to put some passes together with that car. It should run really well with the 47-88's and the wick turned up a little bit! Powski is going to be one bad SOB when he gets that car moving in the first few feet. Hes been pushing some SERIOUS MPH all year. I hated to see Turley shake the tires in the first round, I think he really had the car to beat this year. Go Team Ohio!

is anyone else shocked at the car count for the heads up classes AM/DR i got 10 cars total making full passes?

I thought I was going to see some 275 DR guys show up...

Breaking away from such a big NMCA race and adding a few more classes would be super. It seems its run with NMCA because LSX is expected to be a smaller race and they feel it wouldn't be worth running it by itself. If they added more classes it would give more options. Unless you have a 7.XX sec turbo car or a bottom 9 sec all motor car, your only option is LSX index. Throw in a 275 radial class, or a nitrous class with a limited jet size. Maybe a swap/hybrid class so the non GM bodied cars can play. Don't get me wrong, I will continue to run the shootout anyway. Just think it would be pretty easy to encourage more LSX cars to come out if they had a seperate/unique class to run instead of all being thrown into one giant class.


just my .02

I like all of the ideas you have, but I doubt GMPP would shy away from the NMCA event because of all of the exposure they get THROUGH the NMCA... TV, magazines, forums, etc

We finally left there last night around 7:45 when we looked and there were still 100 Bracket cars still to run before 2nd round of the LSX Shootout started. We just rolled in at 4:45. Had a great show though. Good luck to you guys in the morning or should I say later this morning.

I felt bad for Steve Turley, I was rootin' for him. We left at 5pm and I slid into bed around 3am.

They were supposed to run first round elims at 1:30 pm and it ended up being 5 pm. i don't understand why 3 all motor cars and 6 drag radial cars couldn't run at 11 am, and then 2pm etc. They took about a total of 10 minutes to run. They ran jr dragsters before the lsx guys. I like the NMCA guys but I think our folks should have been treated better. Heck the True Street folks sat in theirs cars for maybe a total of 5 hours to make their 3 runs.

Great seeing a lot of folks I know, I'll start another thread on that later.

im sorry but this was a flat out poor event. cost me nearly a thousand dollars between hotel, plane, rental car, food etc and i consider it money lost. last year i considered it a good time.

im sorry but this was a flat out poor event. cost me nearly a thousand dollars between hotel, plane, rental car, food etc and i consider it money lost. last year i considered it a good time.

Yeah I heard it sucked BAD compared to last year. Glad I didnt go now.

sounds like it got worse this year compared to last...on elim day it just seems the LSX guys are on the back burner for sure.

I hate to say it but I'm glad I didn't make the 15+ hour trip this time around....

and not surprised at ALL by the car counts.

they are shooting themselves in the foot.

Chad

If you go to the NMCA races they want to run all the finals at the same time. If there were just two cars in LSX DR they would have to wait all the way to the end. Of course it makes more sense to time-wise to just run the cars and get it over with but thats not how they do it.

I love the concept of it and it was great to see the NMCA pick up the LSX thing to begin with. But they need to axe the bracket cars and make it real 2 day event. Like a lot of people it would have cost me 1000.00+ for food, hotel, entry, couple days off work and fuel to run the index class, just not worth it.

LSX shootout equals big disappointment this year. Big clusterfuck. I was there and waited, and waited, and waited some more. Then they cancelled it on Sunday eve about 9:30 p.m. or so. Yes, there was some oil downs and wrecks, but that was not the cause for slow moving mess. They could have run 3 rounds of index during the day. First round was about 9:00 a.m. and the next round was not until about 5:00 p.m. - UNREAL.

The NMCA track personnel drug their feet the whole weekend. Everything took forever, time between rounds was ridiculous, even the time it took to get first round off was nuts! For not many cars showing up they had to do something to make the evetn last I suppose. I feel like a sucker for going. Total waste of time this year.

So poorly ran, I will not be going back next year. Disppointing show. The LSX crowd definitely was pushed way, way back. They were the red headed step child of the event for sure. The index racers were completely screwed this year. Heck, the bracket racers got more track time on Sunday than we did.

Joke, joke, joke.

I heard that the racing was soo disorganized today it wasn't funny. They played the national anthem and then took 20 minutes to prep the track before they started racing.

OUR OPINION: Jake the drag dog and Rick

That's because these folks running this event don't have jobs................. This is their job. Makes no difference to them if round #2 of D/R is next Wednesday. 300 Jr. Dragsters ='s more money for the event.

I've fololwed this event several years, never gone. I've listened as the Nitrous guys said after year one. They needed assistance to run in the drag radial. I remember reading their was going to be a meeting between the two groups, NITROUS and TURBO, to FIX the issues. I remember bitching when this group ran TRUE STREET at Milan and never posted the results.

Phil, it might be my fault for the low D/R turn-out. During the season I found four or five monthly D/R events, organized RACING EVENTS, to go to. If you have a race car there is a classes for you at each of these places. Unfortunately, I posted et's and winners. Might have scared folks off. Perhaps I posted in the wrong section, SPECIAL EVENTS. DRAG RACING RESULTS - Folks read, few commented.

Yep, it's always sad to see a #1 qualifier go out in the first round. It's sad to read two car from the same team ran against each other in the first round. I said I wasn't going because I'de seen most the cars run. I didn't know how true that statement would be.

So, Phil and others. There is always next year. Milan, Norwalk, Kil Kare, National Trail, and Ohio Valley all have racing events that pay money. They sometimes have issues. One medic etc. etc. But generally, they work hard to provide a good event. The racers drag their cars hours to become part of these events. THEY make the show.

Lol!!

I think last year the final rounds finished around 9-9:30 PM. This year they went into Sunday. Are they running NMCA final stuff today too?

I feel that the sporadic feel of when the LSX cars ran was very problematic this past weekend. We got to the track at 8:30AM and then all motor and drag radial weren't run for another 8 hours.

I understand that they are running 8-10 classes sequentially, but that's not how it went down. Most of the NMCA classes went two rounds before any LSX stuff ran. Again, not a lot of LSX heads up cars to begin, so what's 15 minutes at 11 and 15 minutes at 2 or 3pm. Instead it was 15 minutes at 5pm, and then some folks hung out to 9:30 until they postponed it.

I am very appreciative of GMPP and NMCA's holding of this race and hope it continues. But I also hope that some of our community will have the opportunity to review where things are going and be able to provide constructive, additive input to build on the good things and limit the bad.

John Ryan

As somebody just spectating, I got the feeling that LSX was being shafted... we waited around as long as we could bear the cold on Saturday night to see the 2nd run of LSX Rumble class as I wanted to see Jan in the black GTO try to break his personal best 9.6 run, which he did with a 9.4... but we could not take the cold anymore and with all the breakage and oil downs we figured they wouldnt get to run again.

Hope it is improved for next year or I will not bother bringing my car down and just watch again.

I also want to say a big props to the guys at fastlane for putting their tbss in dr and really haulig the mail in that truck!!! And for making kohler make a clean pass in rd 1 to win. All it takes is a slip up and that tbss pust kohler on the trailer..... Just ask turley!

I agree with this year being a disappointment! I don't feel as they should have even advertised as LSX Shootout, as I didn't feel they catered to the LSX guys at all. It would be nice if they combined the LSX Shootout with the LTX Shootout and have the the classes set up accordingly, this would still bring a lot of fbodys vettes and V's out.

Just my 2 cents.

the ltx shootout is put on by racers(Toni with the help of others) as gm/gmhightech/nmca would have nothing to do with it. I see this year was no different....if not worse than I experienced last year. I'm not so disappointed I didn't go now. I did miss hangin out with the racers though.

I also want to say a big props to the guys at fastlane for putting their tbss in dr and really haulig the mail in that truck!!! And for making kohler make a clean pass in rd 1 to win. All it takes is a slip up and that tbss pust kohler on the trailer..... Just ask turley!


Turley went 7.98 I think that beats the TBSS and ANY nitrous entry that would have showed up. I'm just sayin'

OUR OPINION: Jake the drag dog and Rick

I've fololwed this event several years, never gone. I've listened as the Nitrous guys said after year one. They needed assistance to run in the drag radial. I remember reading their was going to be a meeting between the two groups, NITROUS and TURBO, to FIX the issues. I remember bitching when this group ran TRUE STREET at Milan and never posted the results.

Phil, it might be my fault for the low D/R turn-out. I posted et's and winners. Might have scared folks off.

Truth !

LMAO !

Your Welcome :D

is anyone else shocked at the car count for the heads up classes AM/DR i got 10 cars total making full passes?



Actually seems kinda high... I thought there would be less.

Turley went 7.98 I think that beats the TBSS and ANY nitrous entry that would have showed up. I'm just sayin'

Turley barely missed on his power setup coming out of the hole and had to back step it one time. I agree doubtful a nitrous car would have caught him(assuming rts are realistically equal). Seeing track conditions saturday night, it's highly possible it could have been alot worse than back stepping one time. Regardless, let's just all hope next year they finally figure out how to get this sorted out to give a legitimate view of where the ls racers really are right now.

I think more classes would make for a MUCH better turn out. We have quite a few non GM swap cars running around that are itching to run the shootout. It would be great to have a swap class that all swap cars can run in, GM and non-GM bodied. I would be willing to bet we could fill a 275 and/or a nitrous class. Maybe make the DR class an outlaw DR class and create a slower class with a turbo size limit and jet size. More heads up classes!

I think more options is the key to a much larger, racer turnout.

^ I couldnt agree more. We are trying to give constructive criticism and it seems like nobody is paying attention. This event could be sooo much bigger if there were more class options and then let their be an outlaw class and see what these LS motors can really do. Two of the heavy hitters from last year werent here, Kempf and Majors, this has to send a message to somebody. Come on guys take a little racers input and lets see some more classes and better organization for net year.