Drag Racing Results - StreetSweeper CamOnly 10.6 @ 128




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studderin
10-19-2009, 01:04 AM
I took the passenger seat out, carpet, conscel and catback/Ypipe. It didn't drop that much weight I have good light stuff anyway, my carpet is light #12 passenger seat is like 22#. Catback and Ypipe not sure. Had more gas then I would have liked just under 1/2. I was hoping to be lighter but it was just under 3K without me @ 2980 for a 3160 race weight. Da was good but nothing crazy

12:54
Density Altitude: -256 feet
Relative Density: 100.75 %

2:54
Density Altitude: -80 feet
Relative Density: 100.23 %

3:54
Density Altitude: -163 feet
Relative Density: 100.48 %
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/NYI%2010-18-09/IMG_3798.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/LS1%20intakes/DSC02972.jpg

1st pass I think I missed a gear, but then got in the zone and ripped these off.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/NYI%2010-18-09/IMG_3814.jpg


raised the shiftlight gained nothing MPH, stock heads, and fast intake limit rpms. peak power is around 6200 I belive with this cam. But raised the 2step a bit :) and ripped off better 60's but missed 3rd the last 3-4 passes in a row :( 1.43 and is movin should be a 10.65 maybe?
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/NYI%2010-18-09/IMG_3815.jpg
I think I'm #9 or #10 now on the LS1/LS6 cam only list


studderin
10-19-2009, 01:05 AM
Here is a vid form today I'm near the end. thanks to JT67 t taking it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxDRRDTn5Ao

socalLS1
10-19-2009, 03:09 AM
where can i get one of these cams from.


Beaflag VonRathburg
10-19-2009, 03:56 AM
Your pass in the video is around 2:44 for those of you that would like to skip through the rest.

Great results and it shows that the weight really makes the difference.

s346k
10-19-2009, 06:34 AM
i was wondering how you could cut a 1.4x 60', trap 128, and not be going 10.40s?

NHRAFORMULA00
10-19-2009, 07:00 AM
nice times,thats a real good 60 ft,would of been a low 10.6x for sure.

studderin
10-19-2009, 07:35 AM
where can i get one of these cams from.


I got mine local at NewEra LINK (http://www.neweraperformanceparts.com/default.asp?S=503&A=E&PKV=NEPsscamF|0), it s FTI/Ed Curtis grind. That miami1234 (christian with the red c5) put down 511whp with it fast90/90 and ET 215s. Its a bad ass cam :D



Your pass in the video is around 2:44 for those of you that would like to skip through the rest.

Great results and it shows that the weight really makes the difference.


whats funny is I didnt take that much weight out as I was hoping. The cars 3360 on the stock wheels and 28" DR with me. thats gone 11.20s The Drag wheels save a bunch, 3280 maybe 3260 thats gone 10.84. This "weight removal" for the 2nds to last track day to get the car like some other guy was only 100#s less with no exhust system (3160) Not sure what Im going next year, I know I can go under 10.50s cam only. I havn't taken the door panels off and done anything there, 20-25 maybe? The S60 is 50# then a fab9, steel DS is heavy. The car need more gear for this setup to be max effort, carys single plane and a 4150 TB and SD tune should keep making power over 7K. Im not sure how this other guys were going faster shifing at 7500-7800 with stock heads, and a fast intake? rodney/jugger/LS1joe/magnus...?

studderin
10-19-2009, 07:39 AM
i was wondering how you could cut a 1.4x 60', trap 128, and not be going 10.40s?

No idea, should it be? I dont drive that bad or anything?

JasonShort
10-19-2009, 09:14 AM
Johnny, great job again! Good driving buddy :)

ndfrsd6
10-19-2009, 11:48 AM
awesome job man !!! thats getting it done for sure :thumb:

PREDATOR-Z
10-19-2009, 11:50 AM
Very nice for a MS3 size cam (or is it vice versa ;) ).
Good air, good car, good weight, good driving = lots of fun. :D

chrs1313
10-19-2009, 06:55 PM
nice times and run...that is representing for the m6 crowd

i also like the hood and smooth bellows those look familiar...:)

studderin
10-19-2009, 07:13 PM
Very nice for a MS3 size cam (or is it vice versa ;) ).

:confused:
haha had to bring that up:angel:

Mean87SS
10-19-2009, 07:23 PM
good stuff!

98blueSScamaro
10-19-2009, 07:30 PM
Very nice times Looks like we are living at the track one day out of the weekend haha I am gunning for them times this sunday so look out haha And bad ass 60's and times. Looks like you almost got the launch down.

Rob

studderin
10-19-2009, 07:35 PM
Good luck, your need it ;)

Paint_It_Black
10-19-2009, 08:57 PM
What is the size of that intake lobe on your streetsweeper?

DTB_LS1
10-19-2009, 09:35 PM
Great times!!! What kinda power are you putting down? I'm curious because I'm wondering how similar our setups are. Hopefully with a little more seat time I can get my E.T.s down where your at.

98blueSScamaro
10-19-2009, 10:58 PM
Good luck, your need it ;)

I have been pulling weight out of my car for the past week. Car was 3475 with me in it. I am sure I got about close to 200lbs out of the car maybe more so well see. I think I can do alot better oh and I am working on getting one of them small batterys.

Rob

chrs1313
10-19-2009, 11:03 PM
What is the size of that intake lobe on your streetsweeper?

somewhere around 236 right?

GrannySShifting
10-19-2009, 11:42 PM
Congrats on the new best! You guys interested in a stick car race of some sort?

PREDATOR-Z
10-20-2009, 07:09 AM
:confused:
haha had to bring that up:angel:

LOL, just in case Ed is watching ;)

studderin
10-20-2009, 07:28 PM
I'm sure he's smiling with his bunny slippers on ;). How old is this cam anyway, I havn't been around the LSx stuff that long really.

studderin
10-20-2009, 09:07 PM
i also like the hood and smooth bellows those look familiar...:)

YUP :angel: I got that bellow off your thread about it. Works mint, thanks alot just cut it down to fit. The TB cut has a little angle too it, And I noticed this little cool tip. It fits on the TB great at 4.0 But the 85mm maff is little smaller, so you can to clamp it down a little. You can move the clamp around (left/right/under) and depending on were the screw tighens up the extra slack it will change that way it fits to the MAFF. One way it fits worse and puts like a wave on the outisde, and a bubble hump on the top. So it would flow like shit for a smooth turn like on a head. But with the screw of the clamp in the right spot it pulls the extra slack just right so the turn is mint:D And the top of the maff going into the bellow it a little long and stock in past on the short turn. So I cut like a 22* on the end of the maff going itno the bellow. Like 3/4 off the top, blending it to the middle of the side of the maff. Its all flows smooth now.

That just one of the 1000X little things that make a car run good. Nothing sloppy, look at everything!!!!! The fit of every part!!!!! It adds up I'm telling you guys.


haha, ya raw sunoco hood run faster, the paint adds weight:secret2:




What is the size of that intake lobe on your streetsweeper?

I put a link to the cam spes on post 7, just a little 236 :angel:


Great times!!! What kinda power are you putting down? I'm curious because I'm wondering how similar our setups are. Hopefully with a little more seat time I can get my E.T.s down where your at.


The power numbers are not that impressive lol. Look at every thread I started and your find a lot of info. read them all you'll learn alot, its some work but you have to keeo pluging away at it, and not just add more mods for more power then think it works like that.
Back when I 1st put this cam in like 2 yrs ago, with a S60 with 3:73 gears (that made ~15 less then the 10bolt) put down 420whp/390wtq, The stock LS6/ported stock TB/ maf with screen. Most m6 cars on 10bolts do 415-425? on stock heads, with a fast92 I few 430's and most was 441 mike said with this cam? Its ran a 11.5 @121 1st day at the track. On these same gregweld fronts/moroso DS2 (1st time racing on them even, lol) I think best was a 11.6 @ 121 on the stock size 245 summer tires for the year.

Then I put more gear (4:30's) and got 28inch DR I drive on the street everyday on the stock 16" wheels. Got that to a 11.44 on them, and a 11.27 @ 123.9 best end of last year the race wheels. Did alot of works on weight reduction over the winter. But adding weight with the wolfe rollbar. And was stock at 11.1s all spring, and in the summer was going 11.30s in the heat. maybe a 11.2x at night? But then tested intakes, and it was made 404whp with the bigger Drs and 4:30 gears. (true trac also this whole time, also 60's were hi 1.5s maybe a 1.55?) But went to a fast92/92 85mm and it was at 413whp. Went 11.04 @125 on a 1.55 probally, but it was spinning. Then started haveing troble with the car not going stairt and turning. Made a post about it, thought it was the true trac guys had troble racing on them. So a spool in, same night put a pair of thouse some cheap summit /destech 3way adjustable rear shocks. I traded to BigKap on here. Then the car started launching starit, I doidnt even realize how much I was steering the car. And it started geting really good 60's and running consistant. That was a huge change, then adjusting things worked and the 60's came down, it wasn;t spinning. It got 1.59s 1.58s on the stock wheels ran some 11.20s... 124 I think, but it was as fast, as was going on the race wheels. I raced on the Drs for a while and had fun last month. The in the fall and the better weather went 10.80s getting high 1.4s. on the drag wheels. These 60's were good on the 10.7s, But I see in the vid it was wheelie too much and bouncing even. I can tighen the front shocks up, and think there room to improve still.


Congrats on the new best! You guys interested in a stick car race of some sort?
I saw this in another thread, it was it close I'd go. heads up racing would be fun. I saw some other the other cam only guys, even m6 guys some hang'em and bang'em action. :)
I dont think there alot of time left this year, what do you have in mind?

DTB_LS1
10-20-2009, 09:18 PM
Cool, thanks. My story is pretty similar to yours. I just need to get the car dialed in a little better and see what happens.

98blueSScamaro
10-20-2009, 09:36 PM
I saw this in another thread, it was it close I'd go. heads up racing would be fun. I saw some other the other cam only guys, even m6 guys some hang'em and bang'em action. :)
I dont think there alot of time left this year, what do you have in mind?[/QUOTE]

i am down for this :chug: were would this be at?

studderin
10-20-2009, 09:36 PM
Get a good video camara, and have somone tape the runs well. I learned a ton from that, the camara is great for knows whats going on. It picks up slicks spining you dont hear watching. You can ask 3-4 friends ther watching at the line and in the stands.
"It looked like it hooked and bogged, rasie the tire pressuer for some wheels speed"
"It bogged, raise the 2step more"
"I think I heard the other car spin?"

Than at home the next day watch the passes on the computer and you clearly hear it ripping the tires bad. And you made the wrong adjustments all night. :( This happened alot, like in this vid (this was stock rear shocks 71K, truetrac, LS6 TB)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L70SAvYtHNo

Some spin is needed "wheel speed" very important for us M6 guys. alot so for use low power guys in the low 400whp. That can do a dead hook, bog...... and fall on there face to pull the motor down to 3500rpms.

studderin
10-20-2009, 10:18 PM
i am down for this :chug: were would this be at?


NYI in centeral NY is open this sun only. TMP toronto, motorsports. but is in cayuga I belive not over lake ontiro, more over the right corner of lake erie is open thu novemner every weekend. thats the only track I know near you?

I used to go to norwalk for the 3800 stuff, that 5hrs drive time form me? your near chris right.
GrannySShifting and BadSS would be east fo me.

98blueSScamaro
10-20-2009, 10:51 PM
NYI in centeral NY is open this sun only. TMP toronto, motorsports. but is in cayuga I belive not over lake ontiro, more over the right corner of lake erie is open thu novemner every weekend. thats the only track I know near you?

I used to go to norwalk for the 3800 stuff, that 5hrs drive time form me? your near chris right.
GrannySShifting and BadSS would be east fo me.

Haha yea me and chris live about 15mins apart lol but bud's :emb: all the tracks here are open till the first snow fall some even after if it get warmer then 45 for a week will open again haha but i am down for a trip i have a trailer i can use and my TBSS to tow with and i really want to make a trip to atco for there good air haha :chug:

BADD SS
10-20-2009, 11:11 PM
NYI in centeral NY is open this sun only. TMP toronto, motorsports. but is in cayuga I belive not over lake ontiro, more over the right corner of lake erie is open thu novemner every weekend. thats the only track I know near you?

I used to go to norwalk for the 3800 stuff, that 5hrs drive time form me? your near chris right.
GrannySShifting and BadSS would be east fo me.

We're definately close enough to meet up some time. :) Congrats, btw!

GrannySShifting
10-21-2009, 12:00 AM
Haha yea me and chris live about 15mins apart lol but bud's :emb: all the tracks here are open till the first snow fall some even after if it get warmer then 45 for a week will open again haha but i am down for a trip i have a trailer i can use and my TBSS to tow with and i really want to make a trip to atco for there good air haha :chug:

Atco or Cecil gets the mineshaft air. Ive seen -2400 DA before, never been able to get a car to hook that damn cold though! :D MPH nice, I had a bone stock LT1 car go 106+ a few times

studderin
10-21-2009, 12:09 AM
Is there any track rental days or anything special comming up to set somthing up at? I havn't been to any tracks east of me? It would be blast to get some LS1 guys together for some close racing. best 2-3 match ups.

studderin
10-21-2009, 12:13 AM
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/eastern-members/1070649-qtp-gm-efi-race-series-3-28-6-6-8-22-10-24-a.html

thats only a few days away

TOSTO RACING
10-25-2009, 11:45 AM
Way to go I just saw this 128 is flying!

bad2000z
10-25-2009, 06:34 PM
Wow John! I'm wishin I hadn't sold my Z :( Oh well, guess I'll have to start playing with the C6.

studderin
10-26-2009, 12:09 AM
ya, I loved your Z back in the day. I still race with thosue chrome 5spoke, all 4, but the pin on raw hood, some look so snky.


Got a new best today. getting close to 129mph ::angel:


who wants to go to the last QTP EFI event, It was rained out, the make up is the 14th I belive. Lets get some fast camonly guys lined up on the same track:drive: I hear you run really fast with there -1000 Da this time of year.

98blueSScamaro
10-26-2009, 12:20 AM
ya, I loved your Z back in the day. I still race with thosue chrome 5spoke, all 4, but the pin on raw hood, some look so snky.


Got a new best today. almost 129mph ::angel:


who wants to go to the last QTP EFI event, It was rained out, the make up is the 14th I belive. Lets get some fast camonly guys lined up on the same track:drive: I hear you run really fast with there -1000 Da this time of year.

The 14th hhhmmmmmm i really want to go But i dont think i can get the time off work:(

chrs1313
10-26-2009, 08:39 AM
ya, I loved your Z back in the day. I still race with thosue chrome 5spoke, all 4, but the pin on raw hood, some look so snky.


Got a new best today. getting close to 129mph ::angel:


who wants to go to the last QTP EFI event, It was rained out, the make up is the 14th I belive. Lets get some fast camonly guys lined up on the same track:drive: I hear you run really fast with there -1000 Da this time of year.

yes what I have noticed helps even more is the colder the air the more affect is has over da…obviously they go hand in hand but if you have the same -500ft da day and one has a temp of 45 while the other is 50, you will run faster on the 45 degree day…

I just raced last weekend in over 1200ft ish da was around 60* and lost 3mph over my best, when it was 41* out

So pray for cold air along with good DA…:)

nice mph, i knew i should have dropped more weight...you will be much higher on the list soon enough

Magnet
10-26-2009, 11:57 AM
yes what I have noticed helps even more is the colder the air the more affect is has over da…obviously they go hand in hand but if you have the same -500ft da day and one has a temp of 45 while the other is 50, you will run faster on the 45 degree day…

I just raced last weekend in over 1200ft ish da was around 60* and lost 3mph over my best, when it was 41* out

So pray for cold air along with good DA…:)

nice mph, i knew i should have dropped more weight...you will be much higher on the list soon enough

Are you saying that DA isn't always equal? Like 500ft DA isn't always 500 ft DA? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?? :confused:

chrs1313
10-26-2009, 02:07 PM
Are you saying that DA isn't always equal? Like 500ft DA isn't always 500 ft DA? Doesn't that defeat the purpose?? :confused:

somewhat yes...it really only seems to be a major difference with the real cold air days like 40-50 degrees…

when it is middle of summer my car is usually loses around 1mph for every 1000ft DA…but like I just showed I lost 3mph from my last best to what I ran yesterday…da of 1200ft ran 122mph…-870ft 125mph…so I should have lost only 2mph but I lost 3…

when the air gets in the 40s the affect seems to be exponential…

Magnet
10-26-2009, 02:31 PM
somewhat yes...it really only seems to be a major difference with the real cold air days like 40-50 degrees…

when it is middle of summer my car is usually loses around 1mph for every 1000ft DA…but like I just showed I lost 3mph from my last best to what I ran yesterday…da of 1200ft ran 122mph…-870ft 125mph…so I should have lost only 2mph but I lost 3…

when the air gets in the 40s the affect seems to be exponential…

It seems like another variable could have been affecting your times though, because in theory the temperature is only one variable in the formula so it shouldn't matter what the temperature is as long as the other variables make the DA the same number.

Two things I am assuming which could be wrong, is that the formula is actually correct, and that DA is directly related to the performance increase.

Thinking out loud it seams like a certain DA is always the same BUT a colder version of the same DA may have a greater affect on ET because it could affect other variables. The density of the air going into the intake should be the same, but variables like the car running cooler and parts not heat soaking could improve et/mph.

I kinda answered my own question/ thinking...

EDIT: What were your actual MPH's? B/c there's a big difference between 124.6 and 125 when figuring this out..

chrs1313
10-26-2009, 04:27 PM
Believe me, I know there is a big difference with rounding, remember I am an engineer, ha…

Numbers are represented what they are…

Also remember DA is just a formula used to help judge current conditions and how a car will respond…it is a linear formula, but what I am saying is it tends to go quadratic in the real cold conditions helping out more than it seems…Everyone uses DA as a tool it is not a golden set in stone rule that says your car has to respond a certain way…Just look at spray cars they are hardly affected by DA because they create their own atmosphere that is oxygen rich…

also i am not saying it is all DA related just that it responds better the colder it is, over the same DA under warmer conditions...i am sure there are other factors but this is the result I and others have noticed...

Hijack off…

Magnet
10-26-2009, 04:38 PM
Hijack off…

Your car is running great studderin! Whats your plan for it? Think there is more in it this season?

airforcemanss
10-26-2009, 05:49 PM
thats quite an accomplishment. hopefully ill be repping the m6 like you next season.

what are some ways to counter that bog like you did? have you fixed it yet?

studderin
10-26-2009, 08:01 PM
thanks,

I didnt bump chrish but learned alot yesterday, sence I did the rear shocks/spool the cars "working" now. It's really cool I know what one click of the front shocks will do, and it dose it. But I still hav't changed some thinks I know I should. The TA front mount is in the 4th hole (BMR Xmember relco) up, and the LCA are on the bottem hole for a 5* upsweep at ride heigh. Wich is (without me) 28 DR, 27 3/4 PR, 27 1/4 DF 27 PF. I would like to put the LCA is the mid hole for a 2* and move the IC out a bunch, see it it will not spin but not shock it so bad. But I really didn;t have time only getting 4-6 passes a TnT night. And that was my last local open track day. Last time I made adjustment for 60' and the improved but it didnt show up in the 330' and else. I think its from my car not making alot of power and wheelie more then it needs the airdam in tripping the 60's? But I didn't care about getting the lwoer 1.4's and looked at the 330's and broke the 4.4x with the 4.3s and went faster overall. 6.80x 1/8ths :)



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/NYI%208-25-09/IMG_3887.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/NYI%208-25-09/IMG_3913.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/NYI%208-25-09/IMG_3891.jpg

The DA wasnt even that good. it was maybe +'s It was a nice day low 50's maybe 53 high?
I was thinking my MPH was hi, but looking at the camonly list every 6speed guy is 3-4mph more then a auto guy for there ET. I dont think I can do miuch better, unless dumping some money it real racecar light light stuff, drag brakes, lexan glass, chromoly everything. I dont think the short time can get any better, its really makeing dick for power.

98blueSScamaro
10-26-2009, 08:56 PM
thanks,

I didnt bump chrish but learned alot yesterday, sence I did the rear shocks/spool the cars "working" now. It's really cool I know what one click of the front shocks will do, and it dose it. But I still hav't changed some thinks I know I should. The TA front mount is in the 4th hole (BMR Xmember relco) up, and the LCA are on the bottem hole for a 5* upsweep at ride heigh. Wich is (without me) 28 DR, 27 3/4 PR, 27 1/4 DF 27 PF. I would like to put the LCA is the mid hole for a 2* and move the IC up a bunch, But I really didn;t have time only getting 4-6 passes a TnT night. And that was my last local open track day. Last time I made adjustment for 60' and the improved but it didnt show up in the 330' and else. I think its from my car not making alot of power and wheelie more then it needs the airdam in tripping the 60's? But I didn't care about getting the lwoer 1.4's and looked at the 330's and broke the 4.4x with the 4.3s and went faster overall. 6.80x 1/8ths :)



http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/NYI%208-25-09/IMG_3887.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/NYI%208-25-09/IMG_3913.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/studderin/NYI%208-25-09/IMG_3891.jpg

The DA wasnt even that good. it was maybe +'s It was a nice day low 50's maybe 53 high?
I was thinking my MPH was hi, but looking at the camonly list every 6speed guy is 3-4mph more then a auto guy for there ET. I dont think I can do miuch better, unless dumping some money it real racecar light light stuff, drag brakes, lexan glass, chromoly everything. I dont think the short time can get any better, its really makeing dick for power.

Dam bro nice passes :hump: I was out at the track this passed sunday with speed inc and well we had 67deg day and the air was crap like +1250 DA so i was only running a 11.0x at 124 to 123 plus it rained all week and saturday so there was water in the track prep so my 60 was in the 1.50 range and some 1.49's but i am still happy i hope for some more good air cuz are tracks are still open around here so well see.

98blueSScamaro
10-26-2009, 09:00 PM
Oh and were are you at for shock setting and what shocks do you have i forgot.

I am running my strange 12 ways at 3 in the front and 5 in the rears Tire psi is at 14 to 15 psi on my rear slicks

studderin
10-26-2009, 10:43 PM
between 3-4, (0 on Drs) rears in the Mid setting with is 50/50, I called them. Ther not the same as the comp 3ways. been running 12.5-13 psi sence its been cold out. But was running more ...15-16 when it was warm out. An would hook/bog with no wheel speed (ran it a little high to spin a little)

Same ramHD clutch all year, great street/street clutch.

98blueSScamaro
10-26-2009, 10:58 PM
between 3-4, (0 on Drs) rears in the Mid setting with is 50/50, I called them. Ther not the same as the comp 3ways. been running 12.5-13 psi sence its been cold out. But was running more ...15-16 when it was warm out. An would hook/bog with no wheel speed (ran it a little high to spin a little)

Same ramHD clutch all year, great street/street clutch.

Yea i am walking the fine line of dead hook and spin my self. But it like a good hard hit with about a good 3 to 4 turns out of the rear tires and then it 60's and 330 very nicely.

robsquikz28
10-26-2009, 11:08 PM
that car hauls ass and staying in the groove a bit more will help that e.t out too...:)

studderin
10-27-2009, 01:28 AM
Vid from last weekend off my shitty camra

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2mK0I0hCcI

chrs1313
10-27-2009, 08:15 AM
yeah you are right there just need some better DA, nice raceweight by the way...

also it shows how much you are back halfing i went 6.69 to 10.61 so 3.92 sec back half

you were 6.80 to 10.66 so 3.86 sec back half .06 gained on me from 1/8 mile on...and were trucking at 27.12mph top end to my 24.5mph...

only advantage i have is out of the hole, keep on sticking(:)) to it, the cold air will come and you will run a 10.5x

studderin
10-27-2009, 09:22 PM
Ya, that was the last local date, not sure about shooting for a 10.5 ( or just a 10.616 :angel: ) I'd like to, if guys are going to that QTP race at ATCO there some great air there I hear.
The backhalf stuff I've never looked at them before. Is that good or bad? My m90 GTP some guys pointed it out, but thats setup was unneiqe and alot of other cars get setup wrong.

I'm open for ideas on little things to improve, or big things if I'm missing anything. Tonight I pulled the airpump off my friends car. I've been wanting to see about useing it as a vac pump. I'm gona put the catback back in to drive it on the street this week. But some night I'll try to put it on the dyno, do a pull, and just wire the pump up direct. And getto rigg some tubes the the valve covers and do a pull. Any guess, or tips on doing that? remove the cautch can, I dont see it hurting anything, its not vented.

JT37 made this vid, got both the 10.66 pass :drive:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98GhFY0lml0


I just looked up the weather info, anyone use this site?
http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-altitude-calculator.php?track=180&month=10&day=25&year=2009&getweather=Get+Weather+Data

NYIRP 10-25-09

The 10.661 was at 5:40, and 10.668 was at 6:02

this was @ 5:54 PM closest on that site
air temp 51.1
baro 30.20
rel. hum. 63%
DA -1

Tony B4
10-27-2009, 09:47 PM
Congrats on the 10.6's! Your hauling some ass!:drive:

chrs1313
10-28-2009, 08:01 AM
Naw the backhalfing is a good thing shows your setup is making 2mph+ more than me for the last 1/8mile of the track, and actually 1mph more in the first 1/8 mile in worse conditions (i.e. I had better DA, while you are a hair lighter), so the only way I could possibly beat you is with an extremely low 60ft…so I might jump out 1.5-2 cars on you on the start but you are reeling all of those in by the finish…just think if you match my 60ft times, I would be screwed, ever think of an auto swap…;)

You might want try the rear drag bar, it helped me out a lot, although your 60fts now are pretty impressive for a m6, bottom line is I don’t think it is going to hurt you at all…

Ed Curtis
10-28-2009, 10:21 AM
LOL, just in case Ed is watching ;)

:engarde:







:angel:

studderin
10-28-2009, 05:42 PM
[QUOTE=chrs1313;12428792] ever think of an auto swap…;)

[QUOTE]


:gay:


Ya, I hear you on the ARB not gona hurt anything at the track, The TRZ one is lighter then most soild style type rear swaybars. I would have my friends make one, or get the wolfe. Hows your on the street, what kind is it? Rip any mounts off. I drive the car a lot, all over.

GrannySShifting
10-28-2009, 10:34 PM
airpump




skip that, not enough to pull a vacuum

I run the Spohn poly bushed one with reg style endlinks. Car hooks on a drag radial and leaves pretty evenly. No way Id use solid end link one on a car Id be driving alot, I usually drive an hour and half when I go to the track with mine, Id turn around halfway and come back dealing with that clankity clank. Torque arm and the gears singing from the abuse I give it is enough noise for me

98blueSScamaro
10-28-2009, 11:13 PM
i drive mine about 300miles a week no joke lol and i have the spohn drag bar with the solid links and chris has the same as me.

Magnet
10-28-2009, 11:24 PM
i drive mine about 300miles a week no joke lol and i have the spohn drag bar with the solid links and chris has the same as me.

How does it drive? You can drive a lot 300 miles a week it doesn't mean it does it comfortably..:engarde:

:angel:

studderin
10-28-2009, 11:25 PM
post a pic

GrannySShifting
10-29-2009, 01:06 AM
i drive mine about 300miles a week no joke lol and i have the spohn drag bar with the solid links and chris has the same as me.

Holy hell sir you must have more stones than me :cheers:

Even test driving customers cars we do stuff like that in I cant stand it for 10 minutes :) Maybe I hear racket too much during the day but I like plain ole, these cars make enough noise so its stock catback, poly bushings, and radio up for me! :drive: The worst is my rearend though, after a few years of leaving at 7k+ it sings out loud a bit.

GrannySShifting
10-29-2009, 01:08 AM
How does it drive? You can drive a lot 300 miles a week it doesn't mean it does it comfortably..:engarde:

:angel:

We have guys that drive their dailys open headers around here, makes you go :huh: I give customers a hard time when their lid/filter 13 second car is louder than my junker :punch:

Magnet
10-29-2009, 02:10 AM
We have guys that drive their dailys open headers around here, makes you go :huh: I give customers a hard time when their lid/filter 13 second car is louder than my junker :punch:

It's not how fast you are, its how fast people think you are :lol: JK. I am however about to get a taste of "my bark being louder than my bite" b/c I'm installing TSP duals and LT's this weekend. Gonna scream for a 12 second cruiser :lol:..

chrs1313
10-29-2009, 07:53 AM
Mine drives really smooth no difference over stock on the street, it feels a hair stiffer in the corners, but I get absolutely no noise from it not sure what you guys are experiencing, I have the spohn rear drag with spherical rod ends, it is just bolted in place no welding yet, although they recommend it for the top brackets on each side…I have a Midwest chassis body mount tq arm with the same spherical rod ends except for in the front were it mounts to a poly and then to the body…only noise I have in my car now is from the spooled 12 bolt, which can get annoying going over 65mph on the highway

98blueSScamaro
10-29-2009, 07:54 AM
Holy hell sir you must have more stones than me :cheers:

Even test driving customers cars we do stuff like that in I cant stand it for 10 minutes :) Maybe I hear racket too much during the day but I like plain ole, these cars make enough noise so its stock catback, poly bushings, and radio up for me! :drive: The worst is my rearend though, after a few years of leaving at 7k+ it sings out loud a bit.

I am a VW and Audi master tech so all i do is ride in style and comfort but it is what it is. I cant go one sunny day with out driving my car but yes it can be a pain some times.

Rob

00zrocket
10-29-2009, 07:38 PM
The Gm "sunset orange metalliccc" camaro's are the lightest paint color out of all the color camaro's. thats what i heard

JL ws-6
10-29-2009, 08:13 PM
Studderin, next time you go add 1 lb of air to the rear tires, and you need a drag bar on the car.

Get drag bar on so it leaves strait, and another lb so the car won't quite bog as much at the launch and you're going to find a happy surprise when you pick up the first time slip after making those 2 changes.

promod1955
10-30-2009, 12:32 AM
nice numbers man! be proud of that. hopefully I'll get this SI car of ours back together for spring. I miss playing with the LS1 stuff.

Mikey 97Z M6
10-30-2009, 12:26 PM
Nice runs man! You're getting that thing DIALED!!!! :thumb:

Mike

phat_ridegt
11-01-2009, 06:45 PM
nice work john c!!

you still have your pricks?

GrannySShifting
11-02-2009, 12:41 AM
Mine drives really smooth no difference over stock on the street, it feels a hair stiffer in the corners, but I get absolutely no noise from it not sure what you guys are experiencing, I have the spohn rear drag with spherical rod ends, it is just bolted in place no welding yet, although they recommend it for the top brackets on each side…I have a Midwest chassis body mount tq arm with the same spherical rod ends except for in the front were it mounts to a poly and then to the body…only noise I have in my car now is from the spooled 12 bolt, which can get annoying going over 65mph on the highway

mines hell at 65-70 has a noisy "place". So I drive 75, so I can hear people onthe sell fone and whatnot :D

SPEED#1
11-05-2009, 04:13 PM
that car is sexy as hell and it moves out damn good, holy shit :hail:

studderin
11-06-2009, 06:43 PM
thanks guys,
ya I'll probably get a drag bar this winter, you still think its not going strait tho? this is a M6 car, but still I was thinking its going so much straighter now with the spool. I was thinking it was fine. Going fastest would be great. I just noticed how slow Im shifting in the 10.66's passes. :( with the 2step higher then the shiftlight, it doesn't just WOT shift like it dose. I think thats why I missed 3rd just 3-4 times in a row, it stopped at neutral, so I had to shift slow. Not as fun :(

The gtp, I put back to stock.. well 95% :secret2: and sold it to a younger guy in buffalo that was going to mod it a little again:)

JL ws-6
11-07-2009, 06:12 AM
Believe me you get a drag bar on the car, get some more weight out of the nose (PM me) and up the air pressure 1 lb and it's going to make a big difference.

airforcemanss
11-07-2009, 10:39 AM
so what was done to the gtp when you put those times up? must of been a fun sedan :)

studderin
11-07-2009, 01:13 PM
3.4 pulley, colder plugs, PEM, nothing fancy ;)



pm sent :) I dont know who, without cutting stuff off. There nothing there, lol




anyone running the wolfe swaybar on the street?

JL ws-6
11-08-2009, 07:34 AM
I ran my wolfe swaybar on the street, it wasn't bad. Only problem/thing to watch out for, is the tabs that they supply to weld to the chassis are a little thin, it would be a really good idea when you get the bar, to have some made otu of 1/8th inch thick steel, or box them together or something. I have had mine bend on me, but that's after 100's of hard launches at the track too... not street use.

Dickie-311
11-08-2009, 08:04 AM
very impressive , i love them cam only cars running 10's